Suspect charged in shooting of Gallip...

Suspect charged in shooting of Gallipolis officer

There are 63 comments on the Point Pleasant Register story from Sep 24, 2012, titled Suspect charged in shooting of Gallipolis officer. In it, Point Pleasant Register reports that:

A suspect accused of wounding an on-duty Gallipolis Police Officer early on Monday morning is facing charges of attempted aggravated murder and attempted aggravated burglary following the incident that led to the shooting of Patrolman Jamie Bartels.

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Veteran

United States

#1 Sep 26, 2012
As for all veterans including myself there is no excuse for what this "Marine" did!

Personally I have been to Iraq and the PTSD excuse is over rated especially to claim cause as to why this man went to the extent to show his anger. Killing an american, attempting to kill or whatever you want to call it, is plain bs!

You don't kill fellow Americans and you certainly don't attempt to kill law enforcement as they are just like our military, HEROS

People have the misconception of police when it comes to "some" bad apples, but why isn't thete much attention when a member of the Armed Forces become a bad apple.

The majority and in percentages, about 70% come back and become addicted to pain pills but yet we don't look down at them!

The VA specializes in PTSD cases and if that was honestly the excuse of family members putting the blame for no one to help, they simply did not try hard enough!
Mothman

Corona, CA

#2 Sep 26, 2012
Veteran wrote:
As for all veterans including myself there is no excuse for what this "Marine" did!
Personally I have been to Iraq and the PTSD excuse is over rated especially to claim cause as to why this man went to the extent to show his anger. Killing an american, attempting to kill or whatever you want to call it, is plain bs!
You don't kill fellow Americans and you certainly don't attempt to kill law enforcement as they are just like our military, HEROS
People have the misconception of police when it comes to "some" bad apples, but why isn't thete much attention when a member of the Armed Forces become a bad apple.
The majority and in percentages, about 70% come back and become addicted to pain pills but yet we don't look down at them!
The VA specializes in PTSD cases and if that was honestly the excuse of family members putting the blame for no one to help, they simply did not try hard enough!
Agree 100%

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#3 Sep 28, 2012
Veteran wrote:
As for all veterans including myself there is no excuse for what this "Marine" did!

Personally I have been to Iraq and the PTSD excuse is over rated especially to claim cause as to why this man went to the extent to show his anger. Killing an american, attempting to kill or whatever you want to call it, is plain bs!

You don't kill fellow Americans and you certainly don't attempt to kill law enforcement as they are just like our military, HEROS

People have the misconception of police when it comes to "some" bad apples, but why isn't thete much attention when a member of the Armed Forces become a bad apple.

The majority and in percentages, about 70% come back and become addicted to pain pills but yet we don't look down at them!

The VA specializes in PTSD cases and if that was honestly the excuse of family members putting the blame for no one to help, they simply did not try hard enough!
whatever, u obviously didn't know this guy or the extent of his illness. Just bc u think it's an excuse and prob served in Iraq away from the fighting and aftermath doesn't give u the right to judge other ppls probs I don't think the he shouldn't b responsible for his actions but I also think u should be a lil more educated about this serious illness and how it has drastically affected the veterans in our country period!!! The fact that he has been turned away at mental facilities after asking for help is beyond me. I pray that both families will pull through this hard time and that this disease is looked at more seriously from here on out. Good luck Cole, only the ppl that really knew u will ever kno what a wonderful person u were and understand the circumstances that led up to this incident! Idc what ANYONE says negative that just shows that they know nothing about u!
Veteran

Canal Winchester, OH

#5 Sep 28, 2012
-InquiringMind- wrote:
<quoted text>whatever, u obviously didn't know this guy or the extent of his illness. Just bc u think it's an excuse and prob served in Iraq away from the fighting and aftermath doesn't give u the right to judge other ppls probs I don't think the he shouldn't b responsible for his actions but I also think u should be a lil more educated about this serious illness and how it has drastically affected the veterans in our country period!!! The fact that he has been turned away at mental facilities after asking for help is beyond me. I pray that both families will pull through this hard time and that this disease is looked at more seriously from here on out. Good luck Cole, only the ppl that really knew u will ever kno what a wonderful person u were and understand the circumstances that led up to this incident! Idc what ANYONE says negative that just shows that they know nothing about u!
So shooting a law enforcement officer isn't the same effect as shooting another soldier? What if we say marine shoots marine while over in iraq, what would be the views of him then?

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#6 Sep 28, 2012
Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>So shooting a law enforcement officer isn't the same effect as shooting another soldier? What if we say marine shoots marine while over in iraq, what would be the views of him then?
Ur way off the subject. I'm talkin about his or anyone's mental health. Do u think it's right that he went to 3 different health facilities and told them he was suicidal and was sent away?! U being a war vet, I wld hope u wld have some compassion to Ur fellow soldiers in and out of war suffering from this disease. We cld go round and round but let's face it w won't see eye to eye. I do t think it's right what he done but I also think there needs to b more done for soldiers with PTSD!! And even though u won't admit it I would hope that u feel the same way!! Every person is different an every soldier is different bc not every soldier has to go through the same thing in Iraq. So I don't tho think anyone including myself could speak on behalf of the situation at hand.

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#7 Sep 28, 2012
Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>So shooting a law enforcement officer isn't the same effect as shooting another soldier? What if we say marine shoots marine while over in iraq, what would be the views of him then?
but that's okay bc the military has a term for that "friendly fire" pssshhh
hmm

United States

#8 Sep 28, 2012
Regardless his problems. He still tried to kill the man. I don't care what kind of facility he is in, he needs to be locked up for a good while. It's just too easy nowadays for someone to do something stupid and blame it on a mental problem. The way I see it is he is lucky to be alive. He could have very well been shot himself

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#9 Sep 28, 2012
hmm wrote:
Regardless his problems. He still tried to kill the man. I don't care what kind of facility he is in, he needs to be locked up for a good while. It's just too easy nowadays for someone to do something stupid and blame it on a mental problem. The way I see it is he is lucky to be alive. He could have very well been shot himself
u prove me right, narrow minded. As I said before u don't know nothin till I've been there. Regard that!
hmm

United States

#10 Sep 28, 2012
I don't care what you got to say. It could have been worse for him. Officers could have returned fire. Then what? They would have had every reason to! He should count hisself lucky for now. Plus he will get the help he needs now. He will have plenty of time to be observed. I have a family member that has the same problem but has enough sense to not shoot a cop! He will get what he deserves no matter how you try to make it look!
John M

Gallipolis, OH

#11 Sep 28, 2012
Veteran wrote:
As for all veterans including myself there is no excuse for what this "Marine" did!

Personally I have been to Iraq and the PTSD excuse is over rated especially to claim cause as to why this man went to the extent to show his anger. Killing an american, attempting to kill or whatever you want to call it, is plain bs!

You don't kill fellow Americans and you certainly don't attempt to kill law enforcement as they are just like our military, HEROS

People have the misconception of police when it comes to "some" bad apples, but why isn't thete much attention when a member of the Armed Forces become a bad apple.

The majority and in percentages, about 70% come back and become addicted to pain pills but yet we don't look down at them!

The VA specializes in PTSD cases and if that was honestly the excuse of family members putting the blame for no one to help, they simply did not try hard enough!
Amen
John M

Gallipolis, OH

#12 Sep 28, 2012
-InquiringMind- wrote:
<quoted text>Ur way off the subject. I'm talkin about his or anyone's mental health. Do u think it's right that he went to 3 different health facilities and told them he was suicidal and was sent away?! U being a war vet, I wld hope u wld have some compassion to Ur fellow soldiers in and out of war suffering from this disease. We cld go round and round but let's face it w won't see eye to eye. I do t think it's right what he done but I also think there needs to b more done for soldiers with PTSD!! And even though u won't admit it I would hope that u feel the same way!! Every person is different an every soldier is different bc not every soldier has to go through the same thing in Iraq. So I don't tho think anyone including myself could speak on behalf of the situation at hand.
I don't know where he went but all the hospitals in this area will call mental health people in to evaluate then take the necessary precautions. Where did he seek treatment?
for real

United States

#13 Sep 29, 2012
He knew what he was doing. He got the gun, he loaded it, he aimed it and pulled the trigger. And didn't he shoot a car? And did you not read the officers statement? where he said miller took cover behind the door and kept peeking out looking for a shot. This man deserves to be punished!!! Anyone who takes up for him is crazy!! The guy obviously has problems and needs to be dealt with and needs to be off the street!!! What if it happened to be you walking by or your child and he had shot!! I bet you wouldn't feel he just needed help and had been neglected would ya!
a little info.

Racine, OH

#14 Sep 29, 2012
for real wrote:
He knew what he was doing. He got the gun, he loaded it, he aimed it and pulled the trigger. And didn't he shoot a car? And did you not read the officers statement? where he said miller took cover behind the door and kept peeking out looking for a shot. This man deserves to be punished!!! Anyone who takes up for him is crazy!! The guy obviously has problems and needs to be dealt with and needs to be off the street!!! What if it happened to be you walking by or your child and he had shot!! I bet you wouldn't feel he just needed help and had been neglected would ya!
Do you idiots even understand what PTSD is? Just because ol' high and mighty "veteran" up there didn't suffer from PTSD or flashbacks doesn't mean this man didn't. How do you know at the time this took place he wast having a flashback? I have friends who have come home from overseas and there are many things and noises that will set them off, a garbage bag on the side of the road, a firecracker, etc. things that are normal to us, and once were normal to them can now set them into a flashback of things they did, things they saw. PTSD is a SERIOUS mental health issue and VERY serious within our military, it isn't "over played" if anything it is underplayed and brushed off. So many veterans come home from the war with little to no help. A friend of mine, a very good friend of mine is an Iraqi war veteran, who came home and suffered from PTSD. He got to the point he had a gun in his mouth in his livingroom, the things that he was promised, the help that he was promised was harder to get then it ever should of been. He wrote a book and it was published in 2010, it is called "nowhere to turn: the broken road home from Iraq" I suggest reading it, then maybe you may understand how someone's mental state can be so fucked up they do things they wouldn't normally do. Don't judge just because you came home and were okay, or because you don't understand and are ignorant to the facts. At the end of the day, the cop was shot in the arm, as a marine I know he could of had one shot, one kill if that were his intentions. The perpetrator should have consequences, but he should not be ridiculed and his illness downplayed by a bunch of people who don't know what they're even talking about.

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#15 Sep 29, 2012
[QUOTE who="a little info."]<quoted text>Do you idiots even understand what PTSD is? Just because ol' high and mighty "veteran" up there didn't suffer from PTSD or flashbacks doesn't mean this man didn't. How do you know at the time this took place he wast having a flashback? I have friends who have come home from overseas and there are many things and noises that will set them off, a garbage bag on the side of the road, a firecracker, etc. things that are normal to us, and once were normal to them can now set them into a flashback of things they did, things they saw. PTSD is a SERIOUS mental health issue and VERY serious within our military, it isn't "over played" if anything it is underplayed and brushed off. So many veterans come home from the war with little to no help. A friend of mine, a very good friend of mine is an Iraqi war veteran, who came home and suffered from PTSD. He got to the point he had a gun in his mouth in his livingroom, the things that he was promised, the help that he was promised was harder to get then it ever should of been. He wrote a book and it was published in 2010, it is called "nowhere to turn: the broken road home from Iraq" I suggest reading it, then maybe you may understand how someone's mental state can be so fucked up they do things they wouldn't normally do. Don't judge just because you came home and were okay, or because you don't understand and are ignorant to the facts. At the end of the day, the cop was shot in the arm, as a marine I know he could of had one shot, one kill if that were his intentions. The perpetrator should have consequences, but he should not be ridiculed and his illness downplayed by a bunch of people who don't know what they're even talking about.[/QUOTE]
amen...I'm glad someone else understands!!

Since: Jun 12

Hellhole

#16 Sep 29, 2012
This is the problem with the world is ppl like Veteran and ppl like him being ignorant to the seriousness of this disease!!!!
wrong

Haslet, TX

#17 Sep 29, 2012
-InquiringMind- wrote:
<quoted text>Ur way off the subject. I'm talkin about his or anyone's mental health. Do u think it's right that he went to 3 different health facilities and told them he was suicidal and was sent away?! U being a war vet, I wld hope u wld have some compassion to Ur fellow soldiers in and out of war suffering from this disease. We cld go round and round but let's face it w won't see eye to eye. I do t think it's right what he done but I also think there needs to b more done for soldiers with PTSD!! And even though u won't admit it I would hope that u feel the same way!! Every person is different an every soldier is different bc not every soldier has to go through the same thing in Iraq. So I don't tho think anyone including myself could speak on behalf of the situation at hand.
my brother in law and his entire platoon have been deployed year after years after year. He has been hit by IED multiple times. He has lost his own soldiers, he has seen his best friends leg torn open. They come home. They all have PTSD! You hear the stories! You hold them at times when they cry. You do the best you can to comfort them. But what you DON'T do is justify why they have opened fire on innocent people. It is NOT acceptable in any circumstances. Insane or not! He should be held accountable for his harmful actions. He should be lucky this officer is still alive. You want to pull that insane crap. What about the Colorado movie shooter? He's screaming insanity! So was it ok for him to? You say you know this man personally. His family is in a terrible time in heir life over this. Ok I understand people are hurting. But then maybe we should blame you, his friend. Or blame his family. Y'all know his condition and let him roam the free world without supervision? Why wouldn't you try and get him help? Turned away from psych hospital? Very seriously doubt that being a true story! I think he was turned away from his friends and family! That's what wrong with the world these days! Someone commits a horrendous crime and y'all think he should walk because he's "crazy"! I say screw that! Pay your price for what you have done! Let it be your family member that he shot! Let it be someone you love dearly who was killed by someone screaming insanity. Let's hear your tune then! I do have sympathy for these soldiers returning home, but they can control their actions. Imagine every soldier comes home and kills one or 2 innocent people. They all scream PTSD! We let them walk? Screw that!
trueth

Fremont, OH

#18 Sep 29, 2012
-InquiringMind- wrote:
This is the problem with the world is ppl like Veteran and ppl like him being ignorant to the seriousness of this disease!!!!
Dude shut up you know nothing about the legal system don't u know he will receive a fair trial and if proven guilty will serve the time and or be court order to get medical help.
for real

United States

#19 Sep 29, 2012
wrong wrote:
<quoted text>my brother in law and his entire platoon have been deployed year after years after year. He has been hit by IED multiple times. He has lost his own soldiers, he has seen his best friends leg torn open. They come home. They all have PTSD! You hear the stories! You hold them at times when they cry. You do the best you can to comfort them. But what you DON'T do is justify why they have opened fire on innocent people. It is NOT acceptable in any circumstances. Insane or not! He should be held accountable for his harmful actions. He should be lucky this officer is still alive. You want to pull that insane crap. What about the Colorado movie shooter? He's screaming insanity! So was it ok for him to? You say you know this man personally. His family is in a terrible time in heir life over this. Ok I understand people are hurting. But then maybe we should blame you, his friend. Or blame his family. Y'all know his condition and let him roam the free world without supervision? Why wouldn't you try and get him help? Turned away from psych hospital? Very seriously doubt that being a true story! I think he was turned away from his friends and family! That's what wrong with the world these days! Someone commits a horrendous crime and y'all think he should walk because he's "crazy"! I say screw that! Pay your price for what you have done! Let it be your family member that he shot! Let it be someone you love dearly who was killed by someone screaming insanity. Let's hear your tune then! I do have sympathy for these soldiers returning home, but they can control their actions. Imagine every soldier comes home and kills one or 2 innocent people. They all scream PTSD! We let them walk? Screw that!
Your right. It doesnt matter what the circumstances are, he did it. He deserves to pay the price & if he can't handle being out in the world he needs to be with someone who can watch him.
hmm

United States

#20 Sep 29, 2012
He is guilty no matter his problem.
hmm

United States

#21 Sep 29, 2012
wrong wrote:
<quoted text>my brother in law and his entire platoon have been deployed year after years after year. He has been hit by IED multiple times. He has lost his own soldiers, he has seen his best friends leg torn open. They come home. They all have PTSD! You hear the stories! You hold them at times when they cry. You do the best you can to comfort them. But what you DON'T do is justify why they have opened fire on innocent people. It is NOT acceptable in any circumstances. Insane or not! He should be held accountable for his harmful actions. He should be lucky this officer is still alive. You want to pull that insane crap. What about the Colorado movie shooter? He's screaming insanity! So was it ok for him to? You say you know this man personally. His family is in a terrible time in heir life over this. Ok I understand people are hurting. But then maybe we should blame you, his friend. Or blame his family. Y'all know his condition and let him roam the free world without supervision? Why wouldn't you try and get him help? Turned away from psych hospital? Very seriously doubt that being a true story! I think he was turned away from his friends and family! That's what wrong with the world these days! Someone commits a horrendous crime and y'all think he should walk because he's "crazy"! I say screw that! Pay your price for what you have done! Let it be your family member that he shot! Let it be someone you love dearly who was killed by someone screaming insanity. Let's hear your tune then! I do have sympathy for these soldiers returning home, but they can control their actions. Imagine every soldier comes home and kills one or 2 innocent people. They all scream PTSD! We let them walk? Screw that!
Thank you! Couldn't have said it better myself!!

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