Woman missing from Penn Hall located

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An elderly woman reported missing from Menno Haven Penn Hall has been located, according to the Franklin County Department of Emergency Services.

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CHAMBERSBURG

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May 18, 2011
 

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it really takes 4 hrs and a rescue dog to find an old lady who walked 20 ft away? thats insane
PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD BE BETTER TO SAY NOTHING, QUESTION WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR MOTHER OUT THERE??????????
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If it was my mother out there I would be going off on someone! They did not report this right away! makes you wonder what kinda care these people re receiving. For them to know what time this lady went missing and do nothing about it tells you what kinda of people they hire to take care of your loved ones!!!!
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#25
May 18, 2011
 
What a waste of money, She is old enough to make her own decisions, Maybe she wanted to take a walk. People jump to too many conclusions,Let them alone quit bothering these old people,Quit screwing with them. Maybe she was waiting on her boy friend.
st thomas resident

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May 19, 2011
 

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This woman was in the actually Penn Hall building. She managed to slip out unnoticed when an ambulance arrived for another resident. It took so long to find her becasue the dog they brought in followed her scent in circles. The poor woman managed to get to Park Ave Pharmacy and then eventually back to Penn Hall where she took cover under the tree and in the bush to escape the weather. As far as you people complaining that you were woken up for the recorded phone call, let me ask you this: If you had an elderly parent or granparent there, and this happened to them, wouldn't you want everyone in a 100 mile radius to be aware and on the look out for your family member? I'm pretty sure you would. I think what we should all be focused on is preventing this from happening again to her or any other resident, and being grateful that this story had a happy ending to it. It could have ended so much worse.
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May 19, 2011
 

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WOW wrote:
If it was my mother out there I would be going off on someone! They did not report this right away! makes you wonder what kinda care these people re receiving. For them to know what time this lady went missing and do nothing about it tells you what kinda of people they hire to take care of your loved ones!!!!
They did let the family and police know right away but they didnt make the phone calls until 8am after they were unsuccessful at finding her. I think they did a great job. They followed the standard procedure that any other facility would have followed. I think most of you who do not work in the healthcare field have no idea what your talking about and should get your facts straight before you get on here and give your two cents.
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May 19, 2011
 
st thomas resident wrote:
This woman was in the actually Penn Hall building. She managed to slip out unnoticed when an ambulance arrived for another resident. It took so long to find her becasue the dog they brought in followed her scent in circles. The poor woman managed to get to Park Ave Pharmacy and then eventually back to Penn Hall where she took cover under the tree and in the bush to escape the weather. As far as you people complaining that you were woken up for the recorded phone call, let me ask you this: If you had an elderly parent or granparent there, and this happened to them, wouldn't you want everyone in a 100 mile radius to be aware and on the look out for your family member? I'm pretty sure you would. I think what we should all be focused on is preventing this from happening again to her or any other resident, and being grateful that this story had a happy ending to it. It could have ended so much worse.
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A voice of reason

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May 19, 2011
 

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Where should I begin? Fist off, please let me know if I need to use smaller words or slow down for some of you people who obviously have trouble reasoning or using the side of your brain that forms logical and coherent thoughts.

Secondly, there are procedures in place for every emergency situation that would occur at Penn Hall, including the event of a person going missing. Part of this procedure includes staff members conducting their own search BEFORE calling in any kind of law enforcement. In addition, not only was it dark outside when the resident had gone missing, it was raining.

Considering that fact that this resident lived in INDEPENDENT living, I am fairly certain that the resident was perfectly capable of wandering more than 20 feet. Factor in the size, shape, and landscaping of that campus, and I would be willing to bet that not ONE of the people who've left these comments about how long the search took would be able to find a resident, even if we gave them a whole week.

Let's also go back to an issue addressed earlier, which is the fact that this resident lived in an area where the staff are there to ASSIST IF NEEDED with daily activities. The resident did not live in a daycare center. They did not live in a high security prison. They did not have a 16 year old babysitter who gets paid $10 an hour to watch TV and put them into bed at night. They were deemed a capable adult and placed into a living situation where they were treated as such. So please forgive the nurses if they did not place a baby monitor into the resident's room and inform them that they would be grounded if they break their curfew.

In addition, some people have commented that maybe this resident should not have been placed in independent living. Each resident is evaluated before being placed into an independent living environment. This resident had no history of getting confused or disoriented. Do people sometimes get that way with age? Yes. Is there any way of telling when it will happen? No. And if you're stating that residents should just not be allowed to live independently because of the possibility of these things happening, then why not say that everyone(regardless of their age) should be required to have supervision at all times. After all, unexpected things can happen to anyone right?

In fact, why don't we just put a giant plastic bubble around all of Penn Hall so that if this happens again, we know the resident is in a controlled environment? Let's place two guards outside each room and require each resident to answer a series of riddles, spin around 5 times, and then enter in a 6 digit pin number before they are allowed to leave their room each day also. That would be perfect.

Lastly, to the person who states we should investigate the "real" story...I don't know what else you're expecting to find out. It states a resident went missing. It states they were found. Problem. Solution. I don't know if you expect every news story to be written in the form of a Dan Brown novel, but news is about the facts, not drama. Go find some "Murder She Wrote" re-runs if you want that.
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I think that the Penn Hall staff members did a great job handling this situation, and I would never think less of them based on the fact that a resident acted on her own free will to leave the building. I'm glad to hear that there was an effective emergency response to the situation, and more than anything, I'm happy to hear that the woman was found unharmed.
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May 20, 2011
 
WOW wrote:
If it was my mother out there I would be going off on someone! They did not report this right away! makes you wonder what kinda care these people re receiving. For them to know what time this lady went missing and do nothing about it tells you what kinda of people they hire to take care of your loved ones!!!!
You are surely one of those simple minded, sue-happy, never-stop-runnin-your-chops kind of people who are always pointing fingers. This was obviously a situation that was handled well and procedures were followed and they worked. When's the last time you heard of someone wandering away from ANY area nursing homes? To be honest, I can't recall EVER hearing that, and Lord willing this won't happen again for a long time. It's not like it's common place and it's happening left and right. It's a friggin miracle (at least in my eyes)that a place of that size doesn't lose people daily!
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May 20, 2011
 
A voice of reason wrote:
Where should I begin? Fist off, please let me know if I need to use smaller words or slow down for some of you people who obviously have trouble reasoning or using the side of your brain that forms logical and coherent thoughts.
Secondly, there are procedures in place for every emergency situation that would occur at Penn Hall, including the event of a person going missing. Part of this procedure includes staff members conducting their own search BEFORE calling in any kind of law enforcement. In addition, not only was it dark outside when the resident had gone missing, it was raining.
Considering that fact that this resident lived in INDEPENDENT living, I am fairly certain that the resident was perfectly capable of wandering more than 20 feet. Factor in the size, shape, and landscaping of that campus, and I would be willing to bet that not ONE of the people who've left these comments about how long the search took would be able to find a resident, even if we gave them a whole week.
Let's also go back to an issue addressed earlier, which is the fact that this resident lived in an area where the staff are there to ASSIST IF NEEDED with daily activities. The resident did not live in a daycare center. They did not live in a high security prison. They did not have a 16 year old babysitter who gets paid $10 an hour to watch TV and put them into bed at night. They were deemed a capable adult and placed into a living situation where they were treated as such. So please forgive the nurses if they did not place a baby monitor into the resident's room and inform them that they would be grounded if they break their curfew.
In addition, some people have commented that maybe this resident should not have been placed in independent living. Each resident is evaluated before being placed into an independent living environment. This resident had no history of getting confused or disoriented. Do people sometimes get that way with age? Yes. Is there any way of telling when it will happen? No. And if you're stating that residents should just not be allowed to live independently because of the possibility of these things happening, then why not say that everyone(regardless of their age) should be required to have supervision at all times. After all, unexpected things can happen to anyone right?
In fact, why don't we just put a giant plastic bubble around all of Penn Hall so that if this happens again, we know the resident is in a controlled environment? Let's place two guards outside each room and require each resident to answer a series of riddles, spin around 5 times, and then enter in a 6 digit pin number before they are allowed to leave their room each day also. That would be perfect.
Lastly, to the person who states we should investigate the "real" story...I don't know what else you're expecting to find out. It states a resident went missing. It states they were found. Problem. Solution. I don't know if you expect every news story to be written in the form of a Dan Brown novel, but news is about the facts, not drama. Go find some "Murder She Wrote" re-runs if you want that.
Hats off to you. Thank you for your common sense and a well educated post for a welcome change.
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Cant say that I'm sue happy never sued a person in my life. I have prooved many people wrong in life.
Maybe you need to do some reserch on what care people are to receive in a Asst living faclity then come back and run your fingers accross your keyboard! All the information is public information and they did NOT handle the lady missing properly!
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May 20, 2011
 
A voice of reason wrote:
Where should I begin? Fist off, please let me know if I need to use smaller words or slow down for some of you people who obviously have trouble reasoning or using the side of your brain that forms logical and coherent thoughts.
Secondly, there are procedures in place for every emergency situation that would occur at Penn Hall, including the event of a person going missing. Part of this procedure includes staff members conducting their own search BEFORE calling in any kind of law enforcement. In addition, not only was it dark outside when the resident had gone missing, it was raining.
Considering that fact that this resident lived in INDEPENDENT living, I am fairly certain that the resident was perfectly capable of wandering more than 20 feet. Factor in the size, shape, and landscaping of that campus, and I would be willing to bet that not ONE of the people who've left these comments about how long the search took would be able to find a resident, even if we gave them a whole week.
Let's also go back to an issue addressed earlier, which is the fact that this resident lived in an area where the staff are there to ASSIST IF NEEDED with daily activities. The resident did not live in a daycare center. They did not live in a high security prison. They did not have a 16 year old babysitter who gets paid $10 an hour to watch TV and put them into bed at night. They were deemed a capable adult and placed into a living situation where they were treated as such. So please forgive the nurses if they did not place a baby monitor into the resident's room and inform them that they would be grounded if they break their curfew.
In addition, some people have commented that maybe this resident should not have been placed in independent living. Each resident is evaluated before being placed into an independent living environment. This resident had no history of getting confused or disoriented. Do people sometimes get that way with age? Yes. Is there any way of telling when it will happen? No. And if you're stating that residents should just not be allowed to live independently because of the possibility of these things happening, then why not say that everyone(regardless of their age) should be required to have supervision at all times. After all, unexpected things can happen to anyone right?
In fact, why don't we just put a giant plastic bubble around all of Penn Hall so that if this happens again, we know the resident is in a controlled environment? Let's place two guards outside each room and require each resident to answer a series of riddles, spin around 5 times, and then enter in a 6 digit pin number before they are allowed to leave their room each day also. That would be perfect.
Lastly, to the person who states we should investigate the "real" story...I don't know what else you're expecting to find out. It states a resident went missing. It states they were found. Problem. Solution. I don't know if you expect every news story to be written in the form of a Dan Brown novel, but news is about the facts, not drama. Go find some "Murder She Wrote" re-runs if you want that.
Perhaps this person is the one who one who should being writing articles in the public opinion paper.She is certainly a brilliant author and intelligent person!

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