How would the Castle Doctrine apply t...

How would the Castle Doctrine apply to recent Franklin County slayings?

There are 34 comments on the Public Opinion story from Mar 19, 2011, titled How would the Castle Doctrine apply to recent Franklin County slayings?. In it, Public Opinion reports that:

The defendants in two of Franklin County's recent homicide cases argued at trial that they acted in self defense.

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Free Chad

Chambersburg, PA

#1 Mar 20, 2011
IF YOU WERE ASSAULTED FOR 45 MINUTES BY A LUNATIC AND THEN HE BREAKS YOUR WINDOW WIHILE YOU AR INSIDE YOUR HOME...WOULD YOU THINK HE IS TRYING TO GET IN YOUR HOME? UNREASONABLE BELIEF? I DON'T THINK SO. THE UNREASONABLE PART IS THINKING HE MEANT NO HARM.

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Tea Party

Harrisburg, PA

#2 Mar 20, 2011
The PO article by Jim Hook states that no one has produced a case where the castle doctrine would have helped. Hmm?? Looks like there is 2 right here in our county.
If this bill were law, both cases would have had different outcomes. Keep pushing Mr.Alloway, law abiding citizens need this change to protect themselves from criminals.
Jim Light

Stockton, MO

#3 Mar 20, 2011
So two fists on a raging drunk coming at you aren't "lethal weapons?"
jacked

Carlisle, PA

#4 Mar 20, 2011
no reason for either of those guys to be in jail they both would have been dead if they didnt protect themselves
JusticeForChad

Chambersburg, PA

#5 Mar 20, 2011
Thank you Jim Tuttle for writing this article! It frightens me that the Commonwealth put someone in prision for protecting their family from being attacted on their own property. Mr.Alloway and residents of PA, the Castle Doctrine is NEEDED! Mr.Kirby should be at home with the family he was protecting, not 3 hours away in a state prision.
Lindsay Lotter

Landisburg, PA

#6 Mar 20, 2011
Free Chad wrote:
IF YOU WERE ASSAULTED FOR 45 MINUTES BY A LUNATIC AND THEN HE BREAKS YOUR WINDOW WIHILE YOU AR INSIDE YOUR HOME...WOULD YOU THINK HE IS TRYING TO GET IN YOUR HOME? UNREASONABLE BELIEF? I DON'T THINK SO. THE UNREASONABLE PART IS THINKING HE MEANT NO HARM.
Couldn't agree more. It's scary to realize you don't have the right to protect yourself. I beleive completely Chad thought he had to protect himself and his family, at that minute. Put yourselve in that panicked position. What would you do?

The woman who was just killed by her "boyfriend" (after a judge left him out of jail, after numerous threats on her life and poa violations...so much for the law's help) should have been waiting for him in the driveway with a gun. If she would have killed him first SHE would be in jail for 6-12 years.

We all think this is someone else's problem but anyone could be put in this situation. Every law abiding citizen should have thier eyes opened by now. YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTECT YOURSELF OR FAMILY... it's a fairytale.
pete

Carlisle, PA

#10 Mar 20, 2011
Did either of these individuals who applied deadly force call the police on the day in question? If they did not then the sentence should be even greater.
just me

Mount Holly Springs, PA

#13 Mar 20, 2011
Who ever calls a person a hick has a very low mentality. I came from Waynesboro from a fine family.I moved here 33 years ago and love where I live.I look out my window and see rolling hills.And farmers on the farms.These so called hicks probaly own more than you do. Just my thoughts. Have a good day.
Average Joe

Gettysburg, PA

#14 Mar 20, 2011
Federal Government wrote:
<quoted text>Settle down hick.
Legislation needs to be passed allowing the Federal Government to randomly enter the home of any hick suspected of owning firearms (especially Fulton County). The hick's firearms will be inspected as well as his ammunition to ensure that it complies with all guidelines. If a firearm belonging to a hick does not comply with Federal guidelines the weapon will be destroyed immediately. We don't care if you're great-great-granddaddy gave it to you or if you shot your first groundhog with it. The weapon will be destroyed and if you start getting combative so will you.
Just a thought, you forget that Pennsylvania has a constitution allowing us " hick" to have firearms. You might want to read it.By the way do not forget the recent Supreme court case. And also do not forget that the second amendment does apply to all law abiding citizens.You will have to get over it.What a shame and need a tissue for your tears?
Someone has to say it

Greencastle, PA

#15 Mar 20, 2011
I think this Castle Doctrine needs to be inaffect immediately. My firearms are legal and plan to keep them that way. I have been threatened many of times but I have never used excessive force. Now to the two stories above how far would they have gone if someone didn't take action? Who knows right? Exactly. If someone was breaking in my house I am the owner gun owner in the house and I will protect the family to the fullest even if it means my life. My wife and soon to be child can live without a father but I don't think I could live with myself if they were all gone because of me not doing my commitment as a husband I made when I got married.
Libby

Mercersburg, PA

#16 Mar 20, 2011
just me wrote:
Who ever calls a person a hick has a very low mentality. I came from Waynesboro from a fine family.I moved here 33 years ago and love where I live.I look out my window and see rolling hills.And farmers on the farms.These so called hicks probaly own more than you do. Just my thoughts. Have a good day.
What about woodchucks?
Old School

Chambersburg, PA

#17 Mar 20, 2011
Step on my property, threaten me or my family and you will get a blast of buckshot probably in your cowardly backside! The Castle Doctrine is long overdue and both of the men in the article should be exonerated and released immediately so they can continue to protect their families. Don't like it? Stay off other peoples property and quit making stupid, idle threats. It could cost you your life whether you are a "hick" or an intellectual elitist.
hillybillys wifey

Newville, PA

#18 Mar 20, 2011
If someone threatens me or my children and then proceeds to break one of my windows, you better believe I'm going to shoot them! Common sense is all it takes. Don't make threats, don't get shot. End of story.
Libby

Mercersburg, PA

#19 Mar 20, 2011
hillybillys wifey wrote:
If someone threatens me or my children and then proceeds to break one of my windows, you better believe I'm going to shoot them! Common sense is all it takes. Don't make threats, don't get shot. End of story.
Just make sure you shoot em dead if not they will turn around and sue you for injuries.
Jack

United States

#20 Mar 20, 2011
Dumb hicks.
Old School

Chambersburg, PA

#21 Mar 20, 2011
Jack wrote:
Dumb hicks.
Yes, you are a dumb hick!
Laughable

Spring Grove, PA

#22 Mar 20, 2011
Tuttle, thank you for making the case for the castle doctrine!
Downtown

Carlisle, PA

#23 Mar 20, 2011
Old School wrote:
Step on my property, threaten me or my family and you will get a blast of buckshot probably in your cowardly backside! The Castle Doctrine is long overdue and both of the men in the article should be exonerated and released immediately so they can continue to protect their families. Don't like it? Stay off other peoples property and quit making stupid, idle threats. It could cost you your life whether you are a "hick" or an intellectual elitist.
Go ahead be stupid and sit in the poke for a while. Obviously you don't understand what the Castle Doctine is all about.
Downtown

Carlisle, PA

#24 Mar 20, 2011
ooops, "pokie", "Doctrine"
Downtown

Carlisle, PA

#26 Mar 20, 2011
JusticeForChad wrote:
Thank you Jim Tuttle for writing this article! It frightens me that the Commonwealth put someone in prision for protecting their family from being attacted on their own property. Mr.Alloway and residents of PA, the Castle Doctrine is NEEDED! Mr.Kirby should be at home with the family he was protecting, not 3 hours away in a state prision.
He should be 3 hrs away. He committed Homicide. The Castle Doctrine wouldn't have done him a thing in this situation. One thing to remember, you better be sure before you shoot. Enough Said!!!

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