Pit-bull attack: Dog owner convicted of assault in Hilltop | The Columbus Dispatch

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Donald Moore's pit bull attacked a 12-year-old boy in 2010. A boy who was nearly killed in a pit-bull attack on a Hilltop sidewalk last year smiled yesterday after the dog's owner was convicted in Franklin County Common Pleas Court.

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Johnny Justice

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Mary wrote:
Go to www.nonlineardogs.com and see what the scholar, researcher and animal behaviorist says about Pitbulls and other vicious dogs in My NUMBER 30.
Mary, Timothy is right, why are you quoting from websites that has a strong commercial interest of selling her book (all I see on this site is the Mastercard/Visa logos) and another website, www.dogsbite.org , that is a completely biased website run by Colleen Lynn. Colleen was bit by a pit bull back in 2007. She's hardly an unbiased observer. I love all the lawyer ads she has on her website too. Now we know who are funding her personal vendetta.

If you truly want care about what the the scholar, researcher, and animal behaviorist community says about pit bulls, why not read and quote from unbiased scientific journals and/or websites that do not have commercial interests such as selling you a book or taking your court case (i.e. money)?

Additionally,did you even bother to read the article "The Social Organization of the Domestic Dog" you so often quote and rely on? I actually took the time and read this article. This is a longitudinal study of domestic canine behavior base on a group of just FIVE randomly acquired dogs. The study of only FIVE dogs can never be statistically significant because as it is underpowered (you can Google what study "power" means). Would you base on your own judgement on a human race's behavior base on interactions of just five people? Do you know how many of these FIVE dogs were pit bulls? The answer is NONE. These dogs are Collie/Lab mix, Border Collie, German Shepherd, Canadian Shepherd, and Jack Russell. Please take time to read any article you try to quote.

Also, this paper was never published in any peer-reviewed scientific journal. Peer-reviewed means that multiple experts of the field critically read the submitted manuscript and decide if it holds any truth and/or merit to be published in the scientific literature. This procedure upholds a standard of scientific integrity. Without this rigorous review, her study is no more than a personal viewpoint or basically, a personal blog. Anyone can start a blog.

Due to her inconsistent and highly controversial viewpoints she has been fired by the Dutch SPCA, thus she now relies on her book sales to live. She is now trying to ride Cesar Milan's coattails to make money. Having been to the Netherlands several times, in my opinion, the Dutch are a group of pretty fair minded people, so being fired by them speaks volumes.
Johnny Justice

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Mary wrote:
Ban this breed of dog and get rid of them in ALL municipal areas of our state. You are not permitted to own farm animals, from chickens to pigs in these city limits, how do you then permit this breed from being allowed???
Get rid of them and do it now, show some leadership and shelf this bill NOW.
I agree with the post above. Go to www.nonlineardogs.com and see what the animal behavorists and scholar says about Pitbulls and dangerous breeds under Myth number 30.


Again a website that wants to sell you a book.
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it explains exactly how these "family dogs" turn and why. See MODEL Dog Legislation at www.dogsbite.org for how to make the ban work better and see that the bans are effective.
You are quoting again from a biased website that has a personal vendetta.

Why don't we read from websites that is unbiased and do not have commercial interests such as selling you a book.

Below is the ASPCA stand on BSL:

Is Breed-Specific Legislation Effective?
No—there is no evidence that breed-specific legislation is effective. Cities and countries that have enacted BSL tend to discover that BSL does not result in a decrease in dog bites.i BSL is also extremely costly to enforce, which stretches animal control resources thin, thereby reducing animal control’s ability to respond to other situations and help a greater number of animals.
Conversely, cities that invest in low-cost spay/neuter programs and pass and enforce anti-tethering, dog licensing and at-large/leash laws have seen a decline in dog attacks.
BSL also fails to acknowledge that any dog can bite, and that the breeds with “bad reputations” change over time. Not long ago, Dobermans, Rottweilers, German Shepherds and even Bloodhounds—rather than dogs with the characteristics of Pit Bull Terriers—were particularly feared. Those who want to possess aggressive dogs will always find a way to do so—ban or regulate one breed, and another will rise in popularity to take its place
Timothy

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Jul 10, 2011
 
Wondering wrote:
I feel bad for the responsible and caring pet owners of Pit Bulls that love and train their dogs. Because of the hidden world of dog fighting exposed in some degree by people like Michael Vick whose dogs of choice seem to be pit bulls the breed has a very bad reputation. Their owners, too. Would you really want neighbors next door with the dogs and would you feel good about letting your own dog/s go out in their own yard--at least to void and run for a few?? If I had a little "ankle bitter" and walking him I would be fearful if we encountered a Pit. I would have to hope that that owner didn't have a "thug" and status driven ego displayed that speaks loudly of "I've got the strongest fearless dog so get the blank out of my way. It's again unfair but check out some of the videos and the music attached. One "tough" image is to have the ladies, hot cars, and the dogs. Would many of the readers want to be walking their babies and come across a Pit? Next time look at some of the folks that own these dogs. I know you really can't size up a person entirely by looks but how responsible do they seem to be?? It's right to not ban the dogs but be very tough on the owners--great until you prepare to pass one. I am a dog and cat lover.
It is a rarity when you meet a reasonable person on an anonymous forum that is not completely close-minded. Most people here wouldn't be writing such garbage if they had to place their name and email on to these posts. I can tell that you do not like pits, but at least you focus your post on these horrible owners. It is true 95% of pit owners are thugs that contribute very little to society. These type of people do not view their dogs as living creatures, but rather as objects to toughen their image or to make money through breeding and/or fighting. However, there are also some extremely responsible owners who own very loving dogs and view them as family members. Can you imagine someone seizing and destroying your dog based on its appearance? I think most "dog lovers" on here would be devastated.
But, I agree. In order to not incringe on the Constituional rights of people (what a ban would do) and to also clean-up the image of this breed, there really should be very strict restrictions such as: mandatory insurance liability (which an outright ban would disallow - insurance companies will not cover banned dogs), mandatory dog obedience classes (a minimal of 10 one-hour classes), microchipping, and a mandatory neuter/spay program (which also provides low-cost surgeries). An outright ban turns our back on the actual root of the problem. If you ban a breed, you will  never eliminate the entire breed. It just won't happen. What you do is relinquish your ability to control and regulate the breed. How can you pass laws to control a breed when you have already passed a law to ban it?
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Mary wrote:
Ban this breed of dog and get rid of them in ALL municipal areas of our state. You are not permitted to own farm animals, from chickens to pigs in these city limits, how do you then permit this breed from being allowed???
Get rid of them and do it now, show some leadership and shelf this bill NOW.
I agree with the post above. Go to www.nonlineardogs.com and see what the animal behavorists and scholar says about Pitbulls and dangerous breeds under Myth number 30. it explains exactly how these "family dogs" turn and why. See MODEL Dog Legislation at www.dogsbite.org for how to make the ban work better and see that the bans are effective.
It is a joke you consider www.dogsbite.org a legitimate source of MODEL dog legislation. It is someone's personal blog!!!

Below are the National Animal Control Association Policy Statement on BSL. POSITION STATEMENTS AGAINST BSL supported by true public health and medical experts in this field such as:

National Animal Control Association (NACA) American Dog Owners Association (ADOA) American Kennel Club (AKC) American Veterinarian Association (AMVA) Association of Pet Dog Trainers (APDT) Colorado Veterinarian Medicine Association (CVMA) California Veterinary Medical Association (CVMA) International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC) Iowa Veterinary Medical Association (IVMA) Kentucky Veterinary Medical Association Longmont Colorado Veterinary Statement Maryland Veterinary Medical Association (MVMA) National Association of Dog Obediance Institute, INC (NADOI) National Animal Interest Association (NAIA) New York State Veterinary Medical Association (NYSVMS) Pit Bull Recovery Central (PBRC) Washington State Veterinary Medical Association (WSVMA) Endangered Breeds Association (EBA)

National Animal Control Association Policy Statement Extended Animal Control Concerns - Dangerous/Vicious Animals

POLICY STATEMENT Dangerous and/or vicious animals should be labeled as such as a result of their actions or behavior and not because of their breed.

BASIS FOR POLICY Any animal may exhibit aggressive behavior regard-less of breed. Accurately identifying a specific animal's lineage for prosecution purposes may be extremely difficult. Additionally, breed specific legislation may create an undue burden to owners who otherwise have demonstrated proper pet management and responsibility.

POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS Agencies should encourage enactment and stringent enforcement of dangerous/vicious dog laws. When applicable, agencies should not hesitate to prosecute owners for murder, manslaughter, or similar violations resulting from their animal's actions, and their owner lack of responsibility. Laws should clearly define "dangerous" or "vicious", and provide for established penalties. Penalties may include fines, imprisonment, and/or the relinquishing of total privileges to pet ownership. If a dangerous/vicious animal is allowed to be kept, laws should specify methods of secure confinement and control. A dangerous/vicious animal when kept outside should be confined in an escape-proof enclosure which is locked and secured on all six sides. Signs should be posted at property entrances and be visible from the nearest sidewalk or street. The licensing record could include a notation which will immediately identify an animal which has been deemed dangerous or vicious.
Gracie

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Mary wrote:
IN the past month 3 babies have been killed by Pitbulls and a 75 year old Florida vet was killed while innocently gardening in his yard. A San Diago senior citzen lost a leg checking her mail in a pitbull attack. This in intolerable Matt. You get that?
Mary, I really hope you are not a politician. It will be very scary for people like you to be in our government. Thank God for politicians like Representative Matt Szollosi who is responsible enough to address the REAL issues behind dog bites, intelligent enough to oppose an ineffective BSL, and wanting to hold irresponsible owners liable for their actions. It is the irresponsible "thugs" owners that should be banned from owning any type of dog.

The reality is, pit bulls and many other breeds of dogs do bite and sometime attack people. Behind each of these bites or attacks, is an owner that chain their dog, not providing proper socialization and exercise their dog properly, allowing their dog to run around off a leash, leaving their young child alone with the dog (totally irresponsible), and many use their dog as status symbols, beating and torturing their dogs to fight.

You can kill as many pit bulls as you want, but until those problems are addressed, dog bites will still be a problem. You MUST deal with ignorant, neglectful and irresponsible owners if the problem is going to be resolved. Representative Matt Szollosi totally gets it and I will vote for him!!!
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Because I think this is sorely needed around here, I will provide some factual data. It is truly an easy task going against breed-specific legislation (BSL) because the data against BSL is abundant, clear, and easy to obtain. People that are for banning a specific dog breed are usually on the fringe - the same type of people who still believe vaccines cause autism. They rely on personal blogs and pseudo-science. 

Here is a good article from a notable news source (unlike some of the esoteric websites some people are posting, uh hum, "Mary"):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8644998/ns/health...

Here are article about how bans are ineffective in Miami and Denver:

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uplo...

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uplo...

An article on why bans are not effect from American Veterinary Medical Association. And yes, this study was scientifically done and published:

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uplo...

http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/...

More scientific data (real published articles, not some random person's blog or a law firm) from many real and legitimate public health experts and veterinarians that shows breed-specific bans are misguided efforts and are not effective: 

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19425313
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16538823
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
Timothy

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Here's more "Mary":

I think it is safe to say that the American Kennel Club is an excellent source dealing with specific breeds their behaviors. The AKC has also taken a stance against the banning of specific breeds:

http://www.akc.org/pdfs/canine_legislation/po...
http://www.akc.org/pdfs/public_education/Deed...
http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm...

One of the largest public health entities in the world, our own Center for Disease Control (CDC) opposes the identification of specific breeds for ban. Here is their study. If you ever cite this article for anything, please read it:
http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/...
"since 1975, over 30 different breeds have been responsible for for fatal attacks, including Dachshunds, a Yorkshire Terrier, and a Labrador Retriever."
"a ban on a specific breed might cause people who want a dangerous dog to simply turn to another breed for the same qualities they sought in the original dog (eg, large size, aggression easily fostered)."
"We noticed in the fatal cases, that less than one half of 1% of fatalities were caused by leashed animals off the owners' property" [this means that deaths are not from responsible owners that are out walking their dogs]
"Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), OTHER breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates."
Lastly, "Many practical alternatives to breed-specific ordinances exist and hold promise for prevention of dog bites."

Here's some photos from the Denver SPCA for all the so-called "animal lovers" and "dog lovers" on here:

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2009/10/...

Anyways, the outright, unlimited ban of pit bulls in any municipality will be ending soon anyway. Pit bulls are dogs that can serve as Service dogs. Off-hand, I know 2 such dogs in my community. The American Disability Act trumps all local and federal laws when it comes to the rights of people with disabilities. Pit bulls are also proving to be excellent therapy dogs for our current Veterans. Many Vets are coming back from our wars with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and these dogs are providing them the comfort and means to just get through the day. 

http://denver.yourhub.com/Denver/Stories/Your...
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_16830885
http://stubbydog.org/2011/05/how-a-pit-bull-h...
http://pitbulls4patriots.org/

The repeal of these bans will now be forced on the population without any negotiations to restrict or control ownership of the breed. You reap what you sow, I guess. When you rely on pseudo-science and media-driven hysteria, you are destined to lose because the truth always prevails in the end somehow. If you are pro-ban, you will now be viewed as going against people with disabilities and our beloved Veterans. Good luck with that.
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Mary wrote:
Breed Specific Laws do work. Council Bluffs Iowa had Pitbulls accounting for 25 percent of all dog bite calls in 2004. In 2005 a ban on the breed was passed. By 2010 teh number of pitbull attacks was down to ZERO. ZERO attacks by pitbull is a very effective ban.


Fact: In Council Bluffs, Iowa, following enactment of a Pit Bull ban in 2005, Boxer and Labrador Retriever bites increased sharply, and total dog bites spiked (Barrett, 2007).

Fact: As of 2008, there were still 80 LEGALLY registered pit bulls within the city limits of CB. If these are such vicious dogs, why are they still allowed? Any how can pit bull attacks have dropped to ZERO if they still exist within city limits? Makes me confused...

2010 census of Council Bluffs, Iowa, has a population of 62,230 in the city. The racial makeup of the city was 94.76% White, 1.05% Black or African American, 0.45% Native American, 0.59% Asian, etc. Base on this 2010 census, Council Bluffs, Iowa, is hardly representative of almost all medium and large population cities - lacks population heterogeneity. Therefore, their experience does not have external validity (you can Google what this means too).
Mary wrote:
I moved to Ohio to get away from the Pitbulls. I am fighting back and I want the ban strengthened. Breed specific laws work.
In Council Bluffs, IA, the primary driver of their economy is gambling. Why don't you google the proven correlation of gambling with crime. Gambling has been linked to addiction, poverty, organized crime, and the tearing apart of families. If you think this is your "model city", you can move there. They have pit bull ban - you'll be safe. Mary you are making me laugh.
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I am fighting back and I want the ban strengthened. Breed specific laws work.
Strengthened? How who you like to strengthen it exactly? Here's Cincinnati's experience:

Cincinnati was first governed by Ohio's vicious dog restrictions (insurance, fences, microchip, etc.). They still thought they had a "pit bull problem", so in 2003, they passed a complete pit bull ban. This too failed.

In June 2008, the City Council announced an ordinance that began to train police officers to help identify and "deal with" pit bulls. Yes, despite having one of the highest murder rates per capita in the country, they decided to give this job to police officers to do.

The city still had many pit bulls in it, so in May 2009 the City makes it illegal to "breed, sell, or give away" pit bulls within the city limits. It's very strange they felt it necessary to pass this law since they already had a complete ban on pit bulls.

This was all done when Cincinnati's murder rate is 4x the national average, 3x the national average for rape, 4x for robbery, 2x for burglary, 2x for larceny, 1.5x for car theft. Cincinnati rates as the 16th most dangerous city in the US with a population over 75,000. However, they have very stiff penalties for possessing a pit bull: 3rd degree misdemeanor with $3,000 fine. All that for walking your dog.

So, if you don't want to move to Council Bluffs Iowa to gamble, you can come down to Cinci to partake in the blood bath of humans we have down here. But don't worry, we have a very stiff pit bull ban.
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This city does NOTHING to IRRESPONSIBLE dog owners period.
The dog patrol people have told me unless they actually "see" the do loose in the street (they work 9-5)they won't do anything.
I have had property ruined, and people are accosted DAILY by one dog owner for 10 years nothing done. human society called because the same owner puts her dog in her care during 80 and 90 degree days for 10 years nothing done....I could go on, why do taxpayers pay taxes to this city?
I may not anymore it is a failure in Columbus...I don't care how many parks they waste money on!
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It's not the breed, it's the irresponsible people that cannot handle the breed let alone any dog for that matter. I have 2 APBT and WILL NEVER have a problem with them because they are properly trained, fenced in, always on a leash and I understand the breed. This story is the one thing that will ruin this amazing dog, especially after everyones hard work to removed the "vicious" label. Good job.
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Big Johnson wrote:
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Don't be so smug, you may be next.
What was so smug about his comment? Can you enlighten us with anything? There seems to be a lot of media-driven anti-pit people on this forum that need to become more open-minded and accept the education people are offering. Multiple individuals have provided mountains of evidence that pit bulls are no more dangerous than the next breed provided they get responsible ownership. It's laconic people like you that that contribute nothing to this conversation, just like to spread hate and hysteria.
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This city does NOTHING to IRRESPONSIBLE dog owners period.
The dog patrol people have told me unless they actually "see" the do loose in the street (they work 9-5)they won't do anything.
I have had property ruined, and people are accosted DAILY by one dog owner for 10 years nothing done. human society called because the same owner puts her dog in her care during 80 and 90 degree days for 10 years nothing done....I could go on, why do taxpayers pay taxes to this city?
I may not anymore it is a failure in Columbus...I don't care how many parks they waste money on!
I hear your frustration and identify with you. You seem like a very level-headed individual. I live in a "bad" neighborhood, but don't have any pit bulls around here. It's usually a whole bunch of other dog breeds; running around causing chaos. Some kid was bite by a Lab a couple of days ago down the street, but you'll never read about this in the paper. Not sexy enough, I guess.

This is why we need the new "vicious dog" legislation. The removal of "pit bulls" as a vicious breed is just a small part of this bill. Whatever. The actual meat of this bill will greatly strengthen law enforcement's ability to deal with dead-beat dog owners. Due to people's obsession with using the pit bull as a scapegoat, irresponsible dog owners basically have the freedom to do whatever they please. The laws against them are currently very vague and unless something horrible happens, they usually get off with a slap on the wrist. I see it everyday. The new dog legislation aims to change this greatly and make people severely responsible for their reckless actions. Yes, the people's actions. Right now, the state of Ohio ignorantly just focuses on 1 dog breed, while the rest have free-reign. I personally want this nonsense stopped.
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I hear your frustration and identify with you. You seem like a very level-headed individual. I live in a "bad" neighborhood, but don't have any pit bulls around here. It's usually a whole bunch of other dog breeds; running around causing chaos. Some kid was bite by a Lab a couple of days ago down the street, but you'll never read about this in the paper. Not sexy enough, I guess.
This is why we need the new "vicious dog" legislation. The removal of "pit bulls" as a vicious breed is just a small part of this bill. Whatever. The actual meat of this bill will greatly strengthen law enforcement's ability to deal with dead-beat dog owners. Due to people's obsession with using the pit bull as a scapegoat, irresponsible dog owners basically have the freedom to do whatever they please. The laws against them are currently very vague and unless something horrible happens, they usually get off with a slap on the wrist. I see it everyday. The new dog legislation aims to change this greatly and make people severely responsible for their reckless actions. Yes, the people's actions. Right now, the state of Ohio ignorantly just focuses on 1 dog breed, while the rest have free-reign. I personally want this nonsense stopped.
I am sorry you live in a "bad" neighborhood. You sound like an upstanding citizen and I hope you luck changes. People NEED to control all dogs in the city limits.
It appears we have to have laws for things I consider just being considerate/responsible. People LACK character AND concern for others. Part of the "absentee parenting" PROBLEM in this country/city/state......
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Any word on sentencing? They NEED to sentence these people severely so they take dangerous dogs seriously and the problems it causes SERIOUSLY
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I find it ironic that you think you are an animal lover. You asked what purpose does pit bulls serve? It may not serve a purpose to you but they serve plenty of purposes to others. Just because a living being does not serve a purpose to you does not mean the entire breed should be eliminated. Do you really think like this? Scary!!!! So if you don't serve a purpose to another, you should be eliminated too?
Unless a person is involved in dog-fighting or some occupation that requires taking down large animals, such as bulls, there is absolutely no reason to own a pit bull.

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Your dog must be under your control at all times. If you fail to control your dog the law will do it for you. Dogs listed as vicious breeds are just what the word says, VICIOUS

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