Magistrate Says Forsyth Prayer Policy Unconstitutional

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A federal magistrate has recommended that prayers referencing Jesus and other sectarian deities made before meetings of the Forsyth County Commissioners are unconstitutional. Read more
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concerned

Lewisville, NC

#1 Nov 9, 2009
I won't judge, but I will say to hell with them all of them.. Don,t do this--You can,t do that !! Maybe I won't donate food to the church or give someone a coat to wear in the winter time.. I bet helping the poor needy people will be a crime to soon.. ACLU and you non believers stay away from me..I Bet hell doesn't even want you!!!!!!!!!!
Carol

Nashville, NC

#2 Nov 9, 2009
Here we go again. Its not enough to take prayer out of schools,look whats happened there.Bullets ,death and things are out of control with sexual conduct by some teachers and young adults. Let people have the right to pray . Just look at Fort hood, had this man new our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, he would have had love in his heart not hate.We are Americans and we Should stand up for what we stand for,our equal rights.When we older adults were younger you heard prayer everywhere and thats exactly what we need now.
Clint Pressley

High Point, NC

#3 Nov 9, 2009
Julie Luck asked people to vote whether they thought that this prayer violated the First Amendment's separation of church and state. There is no such thing. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." It is an anti-establishment clause (most of the colonists had escaped the Church of England), and that's as far as it goes. In fact, as far as this current ban on prayer goes, the First Amendment actually protects a local government's decision to open with prayer. Read it again, it's pretty clear. So, Julie Luck should have asked if the court's decision to ban their ability to open with prayer violates their First Amendment protected right to do so.
trinity1129

Yadkinville, NC

#4 Nov 10, 2009
I truly do hope that everyone can see whats going on in our goverment,it's as plain as day light to me.If the goverment gets to tell us who and how and when we can pray,it sounds like we have no choice in our own religion.I mean they started with our children by taking prayer out of school,before prayer was taken out of school we didn't hear things like girls being gang raped out side of the school dance,or things like kids taking guns to school and shooting a hundred or mor people.See once they take god from all places they will have total destruction all over.The ones of us who carry god in our hearts and souls will find salvation,those who deni will forever parish.
Good Men Triumph

Greensboro, NC

#5 Nov 10, 2009
What does the community want? If the community overwhelmingly wants prayer in their meetings, then that's what they should do, not what two people want. Forsyth County Commissioners should be applauded for their efforts stand up against those carrying "religious" chips on their shoulders in fear that they "might" get "offended" or damaged in some way because of a prayer addressed to the "Diety" of those asked to open in prayer. Some one needs to tell the ACLU and the Federal Government they don't run Forsyth County, the people who live there and pay taxes do!
Alan Boger

Columbia, SC

#6 Nov 10, 2009
I agree with Peggy in the report. Our Country was founded on Christian beliefs, There are markings and statues all over our government buildings to indicate this. I read a recent poll where 84% of Americans believe in a greater being. If those numbers are true then I have to wonder how any organization has managed to take God out of so many things in our Country, our schools, our Federal government, and so many other things. They even are trying to take our Countries tribute off our money. Can you imagine what it would be like for these organizations if they went to other Countries and tried to take away their beliefs? They would be beheaded or shot because those Countries will fight for their belief. My point being we should stand as strong a ground for our beliefs, and I mean all religions of this Country because I believe we all serve the same God we all just know him by different names.
Rev 1

High Point, NC

#7 Nov 10, 2009
Prayer is necessary today in setting an example for our young people . They will be our leaders tomorrow.While I respect the religious rights of others ,I refuse to have my own beliefs compromised by a few and it is time to stand up and be heard.There is but one
God who created us all and it is by his will that we are all here today.Have you forgotten how our nation came together as one after 9/11 ? To deny God's divine presence to our country's leaders and our politicians is to deny his blessing on our nation. Look at history
and what has happened as a result of withdrawal from God . To remove Jesus from prayer is to slap every Christian in the face .Just tell them that their hope and salvation was not worth fighting and dying for as our troops have for years, to keep this a free nation.My Lord and Master is alive and well and still on the throne . Stand for something or you will fall for anything.
Anonymous

Greensboro, NC

#8 Nov 10, 2009
I think this explains a lot about our society. Everyday we hear about new shootings within our country. I thought it was bad enough to hear about soldiers and other Americans getting killed overseas. But here in the U.S.? Why go in the military? Why try to commit suicide? People will kill you for you. Now no prayer? I am a Christian, but I am not on here preaching. But back when everyone went to church and praised God, we didn't have all of this violence! This is sad!
A F W

Kernersville, NC

#9 Nov 10, 2009
These same people who don't want prayer or God will one day pray & cry out to God only to find they are too late.. Will be a very sad sad day.
God will only allow so much be done to this world.
Jeff

Laurel, MD

#10 Nov 10, 2009
Why are all you christians so unamerican as to want to violate the very first amendment of the constitution with your government mandated prayers? Hey, guess what? Love it or leave it!
Ray

Houston, TX

#11 Nov 10, 2009
Jesus said, "When you pray, be not as the hypocrites, but enter into your closet."

Opening a government meeting with a prayer directed to Jesus, or "in Jesus' Name", is inappropriate because it alienates citizens of other faiths (Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Pagan, etc.)

Sectarian prayer is a private matter, and those who are addicted to such superstition need to practice it in private, at home. It is sad that in the year 2009 there are still people in leadership positions who feel incapable of exercising wise leadership without first calling on their invisible friend(s) for help.

It's time for the Christians to quit playing the victim and start keeping their religious addictions to themselves. There is no persecution against Christians, just an unwillingness to continue letting Christians run rough-shod over the rest of us who don't need religious addictions. The Federal judge was right and Forsythe County is wrong.
John in Greensboro

King, NC

#12 Nov 10, 2009
Why is this so hard for the majority (Christians) to understand? If you lived in a county that was suddenly overrun by Muslims or Mormons or Pagans or Scientologists, and they started opening up city council meetings with prayers exclusive to their deities, you would be waving the First Amendment from the rooftops! Why is it so freakin hard to understand?? It's about to cost your county upwards of a hundred grand just because you couldn't pray to Jesus in your own time? How immature! The First Amendment protects EVERYBODY.
Shelia

High Point, NC

#13 Nov 10, 2009
I think it's time that they stop trying to keep Jesus out of everything, schools, meetings, courthouses what's next. The ones saying it is unconstitutional will regret their decisions when they stand before God on judgement day. Why do the ones trying to keep Jesus out have more of a right than the ones who want to honor our creator. They don't have to pray or even bow their heads but what does it hurt to let the ones who want to do it.
medussa

United States

#14 Nov 10, 2009
Did none of those magistrates learn basic manners when they were being raised?
Never mind the law?

They ought to be ashamed of themselves. Their parents ought to be ashamed of them.

How rude to open a public meeting, which decides on issues pertaining to ALL the citizens of your county, with a prayer to a particular god, when the magistrates KNOW that not all the citizens of the county believe in that god.
How disrespectful to all citizens who believe in a different god or who don't believe in any god at all.
How dishonest to pretend they are being forbidden to pray at all, and to portray christians as a persecuted minority.
How pathetic to act as if they were unaware this was illegal all along.
How sad that they are considered adults. This behavior is more indicative of whiny teenagers.
MikeTheInfidel

Troy, NY

#15 Nov 10, 2009
It's always touching to see Christian love expressed in the form of wishing that someone would spend eternity being tortured. Just the sort of thing Jesus did.
North Carolina Resident

Greenville, NC

#16 Nov 10, 2009
Whisenhunt misses the point. Sending letters out to Christian clergy of various denominations does not solve the problem. They are all Christian.

Have the Forsyth County Commissioners sought out and invited Buddhist, Hindu, Native American, Jewish, Pagan, New Age, and other such clerics? I seriously doubt it, and consequently, a preference for Christianity has been shown.
Steve

Greensboro, NC

#17 Nov 11, 2009
This is another Judge pushing his view on Religion. There is NO Part of the Constitution that has Separation of Church and State in it. So there is nothing to base his decision on except his own view.
Joe Agnost

Ottawa, Canada

#18 Nov 11, 2009
trinity1129 wrote:
I mean they started with our children by taking prayer out of school,before prayer was taken out of school we didn't hear things like girls being gang raped out side of the school dance,or things like kids taking guns to school and shooting a hundred or mor people.
You actually think forcing kids to pray before school would remedy these problems? If you wonder why people think theists are crazy this is exhibit A right here!
trinity1129 wrote:
See once they take god from all places they will have total destruction all over.The ones of us who carry god in our hearts and souls will find salvation,those who deni will forever parish.
The newsflash for you here is that this shooter DID have god in his heart. That's the whole problem with religion - it's all fantasy and everyone has a different interpretation of it! This shooter thinks he's in heaven with a bunch of virgins BECAUSE his religion told him that. And you want us to forcefeed our kids religion?? Not my kids you won't!
Joe Agnost

Ottawa, Canada

#19 Nov 11, 2009
Joe Agnost wrote:
The newsflash for you here is that this shooter DID have god in his heart. That's the whole problem with religion - it's all fantasy and everyone has a different interpretation of it! This shooter thinks he's in heaven with a bunch of virgins BECAUSE his religion told him that. And you want us to forcefeed our kids religion?? Not my kids you won't!
The shooter I'm talking about is that guy who shot up Fort Hood Texas a few days ago...
James H

Durham, NC

#20 Nov 11, 2009
I urge those of you railing against this decision to consider this letter to the editor from 2005: http://www.wnd.com/index.php...

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