Route 53 Turn Lanes Up For Discussion...

Route 53 Turn Lanes Up For Discussion - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather

There are 26 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Route 53 Turn Lanes Up For Discussion - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and Weather. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The Virginia Department Of Transportation is taking a close look at safety along Route 53 and wants to know what you think should be done to improve the road.

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cville

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Apr 25, 2012
7,100 cars drive on these portions of Route 53 daily
A Reader

Richmond, VA

#2 Apr 25, 2012
If these are easy, inexpensive fixed to make 53 safer why is it taking two years to do the work? Seems like they could make it safer if the work is done quicker!
Really

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Apr 25, 2012
They should extend the turn lane from 618 back down to the Monish gate.This will give the drivers exiting Monish a acceleration "launchpad"to get on 53 and also provide a deacceleration lane to turn off at effort church or turn right onto 618.Their are more accidents at Monnish then at the corner. How about a no left turn at Monish heading towards Palmyra?How about a light at Turkeysag? Another two car accident last night.
A Reader

Richmond, VA

#4 Apr 25, 2012
Really wrote:
They should extend the turn lane from 618 back down to the Monish gate.This will give the drivers exiting Monish a acceleration "launchpad"to get on 53 and also provide a deacceleration lane to turn off at effort church or turn right onto 618.Their are more accidents at Monnish then at the corner. How about a no left turn at Monish heading towards Palmyra?How about a light at Turkeysag? Another two car accident last night.
Hope you take these suggestions to the meeting -- they're great and would really make a big difference in the area of traffic.
What a Joke

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Apr 25, 2012
I live on Milton Rd and can tell you that this turn lane would be a mistake! First of all, how is this going to improve sight distance? The majority of traffic unfortunately is Lake Monticello residents who have to sit and wait to turn left off of Milton onto Rt. 53 in the afternoons. If you are waiting to turn left, you can see well to the right, but not to the left. This is where the turn lane would come in to play as to "help vision to the left." First of all, the reason it is difficult to see to the left is simply the bank with tall grass that never gets cut by the state. The simple solution would be to cut down the bank. Secondly, how would the turn lane help anyone but the people turning right onto Milton? It would make vision worse! Think about every time you are sitting at an intersection waiting to turn left that and you cant see to turn because of a car in the turn lane? Drivers are not going to be able to see past the cars in the turn lane, especially here. And I believe we would have more accidents because of this with drivers thinking the coast is clear because a car has gotten into the turn lane without seeing the line of Lake Monticellians behind that car.

My thought process may not be perfect, and of course I lack VDOT's calculations. But, i can tell you that this proposed turn lane is not going to solve anything. It's a waste of money. The real problem is the amount of traffic to begin with.

The real answer would be blow up Lake Monticello...But we can't do that. Fluvanna has other routes to get over to Rt.250 to get to Charlottesville. But nobody uses that one because they have to "back track." Therefore, Fluvanna should spend their money to build a new road that cuts across right before the Albemarle border over to Rt. 250.

But if you insist that the problem is just a lack of vision, just cut the damn bank and save $1.7 million... Spend that money to fix the potholes on Milton and fix that god awful of job of replacing those culvert pipes on Milton as you pass Milton Hills. My head shouldn't hit the ceiling every time I drive through there.

I could keep going but VDOT i'm sure has there mind set with their fancy calculations and forgetting all about common sense...
jonahoo

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Apr 25, 2012
What a Joke wrote:
I live on Milton Rd and can tell you that this turn lane would be a mistake! First of all, how is this going to improve sight distance? The majority of traffic unfortunately is Lake Monticello residents who have to sit and wait to turn left off of Milton onto Rt. 53 in the afternoons. If you are waiting to turn left, you can see well to the right, but not to the left. This is where the turn lane would come in to play as to "help vision to the left." First of all, the reason it is difficult to see to the left is simply the bank with tall grass that never gets cut by the state. The simple solution would be to cut down the bank. Secondly, how would the turn lane help anyone but the people turning right onto Milton? It would make vision worse! Think about every time you are sitting at an intersection waiting to turn left that and you cant see to turn because of a car in the turn lane? Drivers are not going to be able to see past the cars in the turn lane, especially here. And I believe we would have more accidents because of this with drivers thinking the coast is clear because a car has gotten into the turn lane without seeing the line of Lake Monticellians behind that car.
My thought process may not be perfect, and of course I lack VDOT's calculations. But, i can tell you that this proposed turn lane is not going to solve anything. It's a waste of money. The real problem is the amount of traffic to begin with.
The real answer would be blow up Lake Monticello...But we can't do that. Fluvanna has other routes to get over to Rt.250 to get to Charlottesville. But nobody uses that one because they have to "back track." Therefore, Fluvanna should spend their money to build a new road that cuts across right before the Albemarle border over to Rt. 250.
But if you insist that the problem is just a lack of vision, just cut the damn bank and save $1.7 million... Spend that money to fix the potholes on Milton and fix that god awful of job of replacing those culvert pipes on Milton as you pass Milton Hills. My head shouldn't hit the ceiling every time I drive through there.
I could keep going but VDOT i'm sure has there mind set with their fancy calculations and forgetting all about common sense...
not very neighborly, are you?
A Reader

Richmond, VA

#7 Apr 25, 2012
jonahoo wrote:
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not very neighborly, are you?
NO BUT SHE"S HONEST WITH HER THOUGHTS! NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE HER AT THE MEETING TONIGHT>>>>> >
Bad

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Apr 25, 2012
Make the road wider and straighten out those curves. It's an outdated road!
Jennifer Altieri

Palmyra, VA

#9 Apr 25, 2012
I was in a horrible accident last night on 53 by Lake Monticello. They need to consider a stoplight by the Food Lion intersection. The children in my car and I probably would not have been so lucky if I wasn't in such a safe car. Not everyone can afford that luxury, and a stoplight would have prevented the accident and probably others that have occurred at the same intersection.
Jennifer Altieri

Palmyra, VA

#10 Apr 25, 2012
Really wrote:
They should extend the turn lane from 618 back down to the Monish gate.This will give the drivers exiting Monish a acceleration "launchpad"to get on 53 and also provide a deacceleration lane to turn off at effort church or turn right onto 618.Their are more accidents at Monnish then at the corner. How about a no left turn at Monish heading towards Palmyra?How about a light at Turkeysag? Another two car accident last night.
I was in that accident. They need a stoplight there. A driver pulled out onto 53 right in front of me going 50 mph. He said he never saw me. A stoplight would have prevented the whole thing and the kids in my car and I are lucky to be alive. Thank God I had one of the safest cars on the road.
Concerned Troy Citizens

Collinsville, VA

#11 Apr 25, 2012
Instead of constantly spending money on all the Lake people, what they really need to do is pay attention to all the forgotten people at this end of the county! They need to make it safer in Troy by zoning away all the industrial blight and ban all these dangerous trucks before someone is killed! They never will though. No one cares about us and they never will. All they can do is to raise our taxes to benifit the lake and build huge unwanted schools and fire stations for the lake people.
well now

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Apr 26, 2012
Jennifer Altieri wrote:
I was in a horrible accident last night on 53 by Lake Monticello. They need to consider a stoplight by the Food Lion intersection. The children in my car and I probably would not have been so lucky if I wasn't in such a safe car. Not everyone can afford that luxury, and a stoplight would have prevented the accident and probably others that have occurred at the same intersection.
a light will not compensate for poor driving or a lack of driving decision making skills.....
Johnny America

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Apr 26, 2012
well now wrote:
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a light will not compensate for poor driving or a lack of driving decision making skills.....
Yes you are correct but I think most would agree if the LIGHT is RED most will STOP!
Hence....... No Accident.

Oh and Jennifer, Thank god you are all OK. We drove past it and thought: oh no. It looked really bad.
Minor

Collinsville, VA

#15 Apr 26, 2012
Asking overstretched taxpayers to foot the bill for more overpriced traffic improvements is asking too much. Many of us live on fixed incomes, and cannot afford every wild spending spree that big government wants to binge on. The roads are good enough now, especially with new schools and all the tax burdens that out of control liberals have saddled us with
Really

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Apr 27, 2012
Minor wrote:
Asking overstretched taxpayers to foot the bill for more overpriced traffic improvements is asking too much. Many of us live on fixed incomes, and cannot afford every wild spending spree that big government wants to binge on. The roads are good enough now, especially with new schools and all the tax burdens that out of co
ntrol liberals have saddled us with
So northern Virginia and other parts of the commonwealth should benefit from VDoT and not us.
Ben Rods

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Apr 29, 2012
I would sugest to put stop lights in key areas to slow down drivers. Like oat turkey sag, Boston rd. new Hig school and closer to Charlottesville as well.
Really

Charlottesville, VA

#18 Apr 30, 2012
South Boston is getting a roundabout.The stakes are in the field for laying it out.Fluvanna had a fit over the traffic light at CVS.The old timers don't understand the county needs improvements.They neglected to do these type of upgrades for years,and this is why we are in the predictment that confronts us.
old timer

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Apr 30, 2012
Really wrote:
South Boston is getting a roundabout.The stakes are in the field for laying it out.Fluvanna had a fit over the traffic light at CVS.The old timers don't understand the county needs improvements.They neglected to do these type of upgrades for years,and this is why we are in the predictment that confronts us.
well if you need lights to help you drive....the old timers feel like you should go back where you came from if all that you left behind there was so wonderful.
Fluvy Gal

Johnson City, TN

#20 Apr 30, 2012
What a Joke wrote:
I live on Milton Rd and can tell you that this turn lane would be a mistake! First of all, how is this going to improve sight distance? The majority of traffic unfortunately is Lake Monticello residents who have to sit and wait to turn left off of Milton onto Rt. 53 in the afternoons. If you are waiting to turn left, you can see well to the right, but not to the left. This is where the turn lane would come in to play as to "help vision to the left." First of all, the reason it is difficult to see to the left is simply the bank with tall grass that never gets cut by the state. The simple solution would be to cut down the bank. Secondly, how would the turn lane help anyone but the people turning right onto Milton? It would make vision worse! Think about every time you are sitting at an intersection waiting to turn left that and you cant see to turn because of a car in the turn lane? Drivers are not going to be able to see past the cars in the turn lane, especially here. And I believe we would have more accidents because of this with drivers thinking the coast is clear because a car has gotten into the turn lane without seeing the line of Lake Monticellians behind that car.
My thought process may not be perfect, and of course I lack VDOT's calculations. But, i can tell you that this proposed turn lane is not going to solve anything. It's a waste of money. The real problem is the amount of traffic to begin with.
The real answer would be blow up Lake Monticello...But we can't do that. Fluvanna has other routes to get over to Rt.250 to get to Charlottesville. But nobody uses that one because they have to "back track." Therefore, Fluvanna should spend their money to build a new road that cuts across right before the Albemarle border over to Rt. 250.
But if you insist that the problem is just a lack of vision, just cut the damn bank and save $1.7 million... Spend that money to fix the potholes on Milton and fix that god awful of job of replacing those culvert pipes on Milton as you pass Milton Hills. My head shouldn't hit the ceiling every time I drive through there.
I could keep going but VDOT i'm sure has there mind set with their fancy calculations and forgetting all about common sense...
Your first paragraph really makes a lot of sense. But then you just turn into a big jerk. I live at Lake Monticello and let me tell you two things: First of all, I rarely use route 53 to get to Charlottesville, as I much prefer Union Mills Rd.(Rt. 616). My daughter was in a horrible accident on Rt. 53 a couple years ago after I all but forbid her to drive on that road. Secondly, the lovely citizens of Fluvanna pay state taxes just the same as you. In addition, because of our backward Board of Supervisors, we have to spend most of our money in Albemarle and Charlottesville, lining your pockets with the sales taxes we pay. We have just as much right, possibly more, to drive on any road we choose.

One really quick way to address the problem would be to simply lower the speed limit. I can't think of many stretches of Rt. 53 where 55 mph is safe, especially once the new HS opens in Fluvanna (Yes, I mentioned the new high school. Let's see how long it takes this thread to turn into a rant about that!)
Fluvy Gal

Johnson City, TN

#21 Apr 30, 2012
Concerned Troy Citizens wrote:
Instead of constantly spending money on all the Lake people, what they really need to do is pay attention to all the forgotten people at this end of the county! They need to make it safer in Troy by zoning away all the industrial blight and ban all these dangerous trucks before someone is killed! They never will though. No one cares about us and they never will. All they can do is to raise our taxes to benifit the lake and build huge unwanted schools and fire stations for the lake people.
Oh, so sad! If you didn't sound so pathetic and jealous I might actually feel bad for you. Because Troy and our side of Zion Crossroads does look blighted. It's actually a shame that it's the first impression of Fluvanna many travelers get. It's interesting that Louisa didn't fight the commercial development and now look how nice everything looks on their side.

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