3 Clark elementaries among most inade...

3 Clark elementaries among most inadequate

There are 22 comments on the Lexington Herald-Leader story from Oct 4, 2009, titled 3 Clark elementaries among most inadequate. In it, Lexington Herald-Leader reports that:

When teachers crank up the computer lab's air conditioning at Central Elementary School, someone must plop a bucket in the hallway to catch the condensation water that starts falling from the gaping hole in the ceiling.

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voice of reason

Richmond, KY

#1 Oct 5, 2009
The inequity in school facilities in Clark County is real and this article only gives a small view. Thank goodness the facility plan addresses these inequities and will, over time, make schools more equal. Kudos to the Board of Education for making the tough decisions and pushing forward with the plan.
together

Winchester, KY

#2 Oct 5, 2009
The inequity is real, and the article doesn't scratch the surface. My only hope is that when these consolodation plans do take place, the district takes care to divide the students carefully so that we don't perpetuate the schools of have and have not.
Question

Atlanta, GA

#3 Oct 6, 2009
Haven't read the article yet....give us a brief on whats going on, please.
what is

Lexington, KY

#4 Oct 6, 2009
What is the 3rd inadequate? I saw Shearer and Central listed but never saw the 3rd?
fannie bush

Georgetown, KY

#5 Oct 6, 2009
Fannie Bush is one of the schools in the article. I didn't see Shearer in the article. But the 3 that the comments on the article were Fannie Bush, Central & Pilot View.
MiMi

Lexington, KY

#6 Oct 6, 2009
Shearer is one of the newest elementary schools because it had to be replaced because of fire damage. The article comments on Fannie Bush and Central.
JwS

Winchester, KY

#7 Oct 6, 2009
fannie bush wrote:
Fannie Bush is one of the schools in the article. I didn't see Shearer in the article. But the 3 that the comments on the article were Fannie Bush, Central & Pilot View.
The article itself does not state Pilot View, one of the comments to the article states Pilot View. Pilot View happens to be a great elementary school, and just had additions and renovations a couple years ago.
Just wandering

United States

#8 Oct 6, 2009
Since Clark county has one of the state's highest school tax rate, I would like to know where the money is going????? It is suppose to make the schools improvements that are needed. Everyone knows how GRC is and middle schools are just as bad, the only good schools we have in Winchester are the elementary schools and now they want to close them and combine all the students.

Since: Oct 08

Winchester, Ky

#9 Oct 7, 2009
Shearer is new. Oct 29 will be 11 years since the fire it is actually newer than Strode Station.
Question

Atlanta, GA

#10 Oct 7, 2009
Just wandering wrote:
Since Clark county has one of the state's highest school tax rate, I would like to know where the money is going????? It is suppose to make the schools improvements that are needed. Everyone knows how GRC is and middle schools are just as bad, the only good schools we have in Winchester are the elementary schools and now they want to close them and combine all the students.
I would love to know as well....I have a friend whose son is in high school and they don't even have enough science books to go around. He doesn't have one to bring home. But yeah, lets build a new school and blow money we don't have. Good ole, Clark COUNTY!

Since: Dec 08

Carlisle and Winchester, KY

#11 Oct 8, 2009
This is why I'm sending my daughter to private school when she hits kindergarten in 3 years. This goes on too much. I know when I went to GRC it was awful. The building wasn't even big enough to hold all of the kids. At least in a private school, you can expect to get your money's worth. If I'm paying the tuition, I expect her to have books to bring home!
voice of reason

Clarksville, TN

#12 Oct 8, 2009
Just Wandering: Clark County has one of the LOWEST school tax rates in the state. You're mistaken in your facts.
Question: Facility/Building funds are restricted funds that can only be used for failities. Book funds come from other funding sources. Contact your school's SBDM committee to address your book deficits.
voice of reason

Clarksville, TN

#13 Oct 8, 2009
oops...typo...facilities. Sorry.
Facts Straight

Richmond, KY

#14 Oct 8, 2009
Question wrote:
<quoted text>
I would love to know as well....I have a friend whose son is in high school and they don't even have enough science books to go around. He doesn't have one to bring home. But yeah, lets build a new school and blow money we don't have. Good ole, Clark COUNTY!
Please stop making this comparison. If everyone in the county would listen to the facts, then this false assumption would stop. Facilities money and textbook money are two different pools of money. This regulation is set by the state. The district is NOT allowed to switch funds from one to the other.

Secondly, the district is responsible for all textbook purchases. Clark Countians go on and on about paying higher taxes. If there is no money from taxes after all other bills are paid then there are no new textbooks. It is time for this district to become a district that values education. It would be a huge help if people who are not knowledgable of all facts would stop making untrue statements.
Just wandering

United States

#15 Oct 8, 2009
Voice of reason, I think you should get your facts straight. Check it out on the computer, Clark county is not even close to being low on the school tax rate for the state. I moved here 5 years ago and my school tax has went up 400.00 in 5 years. My children go to a private school because GRC is awful!!! My experience with the middle school was not a pleasant one. My children did attend PV and I thought it was a very well kept and neat school, the staff were remarkable. I just think the board is not choosing the right projects to spend the money on.
sense

Shepherdsville, KY

#16 Oct 8, 2009
Chances are high that this child can check out a book from the teacher any time he wants. Oftentimes departments choose to purchase enough books for class sets and enough for students to check out when necessary, rather than having one for everyone. Since they incorporate a variety of activities and lessons, a book for everyone to lug around isn't always necessary.
together

Winchester, KY

#17 Oct 8, 2009
Just wondering, "Just wandering"--Have your property values gone up? I did go check our tax rates, and while I didn't comb through every page of the 73 page document, I did compare our county school tax rate to the average for Kentucky. The county property school tax rate is 39.7 cents per $100 of value. The state average is 49.15782 179 cents per $100 of value. So while we may or may not have "one of the lowest" we are about ten cents lower than the state average. Incidentally, Kentucky spends about $900 less per student each year than the national average. Just putting that out there. As others have stated, the BOE doesn't get to spend the money the way it wants. I think the real issue here is inequity--some schools do have nice renovations. Other schools are shunted aside. Take Bush for example. The newspaper article really didn't fully explain why people are complaining about the facility. Bush is one of the only schools that didn't get the library renovations. There is a serious mold problem in the school, the toilets back up constantly, and one of my teacher friends says that black ooze came up from one of the floor drains the last time. The tiles are cracked, and probably exposing asbestos. Oh, and occasionally the whole school reaks of sewage because of the toilets in the closets that were never completely removed, and instead were just covered with wooden boxes. I hate to see that little school close, but those kids deserve better.
Just wandering

United States

#18 Oct 9, 2009
I know the difference between "wondering" and "wandering" I chose wandering FYI. Not sure which list you looked at but the one I checked 2008-2009 says Clark County is 46 cents per 100.00. The money is not an issue but where and how the money is being spent is. I agree, that children should never have to go to a school under those conditions. I just think the board should do some research and, I think they will find that having one large countywide elementary school, is not in the best interest of the children. The Board needs to get someone to write and apply for a grant, I think they could some money (separate from taxes) to get those children out of those conditions. The state has emergency funds available. I'm not sure as to what can be done but, I think it should be looked at.
voice of reason

Clarksville, TN

#19 Oct 9, 2009
Here's an idea for generating book funds: all students pay their book fees. Ask at your districted school to see what percentage of students paid the book fee. You'd be surprised how many parents don't pay those costs. Regarding property taxes, check out all of the new schools in Madison or Fayette Counties and compare their tax rate to Clark County's rate. Woefully inadequate. Lastly, Just Wandering, there is no plan for one elementary school. Call the school board for the correct information.
Just wandering

United States

#20 Oct 10, 2009
When I spoke of "one" elementary school, I was referring to the board wanting to close PV and Trapp elementary and build a new elementary school in town to house all the students on this side of the county.

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