Police pose as pedestrians to nab errant drivers

There are 21 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 16, 2008, titled Police pose as pedestrians to nab errant drivers. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

So why did officer Grace Delgado try to cross the road? To remind motorists that they must stop whenever someone steps off the curb into a crosswalk.

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Confused

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jul 16, 2008
This law is confusing. The law is that you must stop at a crosswalk that does not have a light if a pedestrian is in the crosswalk - however if a pedestrian is in a crosswalk that does have a stop light you don't have to stop if you have the green light. Right?
Voice of Reason

Stamford, CT

#2 Jul 16, 2008
Drivers do see pedestrians,
Drivers dont see bicyclists,
Drivers dont see scooters,
Drivers dont see motorcycles,
Drivers dont LOOK in CT.
Driver education must emphasaize:
1.Observation
2.Signalling
3.Movement
In that order.
The state does a negligent job of recording laws, teaching laws, enforcing laws.
Is anyone surprised at the carnage on our roads?
and will only worsen as people leave their cars due to the expense of $$$ Gas and take to the streets without the benefit of a steel cage.
OSM Learn it. Live by it. Share the Road.
Reasonable?
wild wild midwest

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jul 16, 2008
ok.... we have cops on the streets for this reason but thugs all over doing whatever they darn well please. Get your head out of the clouds and start going after these thugs that are beating up fathers and bus drivers.

also... stop over at 27th and logan, I heard there is a guy over there selling dope on the corner... going up to cars to ask if they want any... undercover cops there? No...
Daniel M

El Paso, TX

#4 Jul 16, 2008
Wild wild midwest. Try walking a bit. I do it fairly often and can't tell you the number of times i've almost been hit. I don't care much for the drug slinger cause I'm not buying his stuff but this right here is just plain stupidity on the behalf of all drivers.
Halek101

United States

#5 Jul 16, 2008
Voice of Reason wrote:
Drivers do see pedestrians,
Drivers dont see bicyclists,
Drivers dont see scooters,
Drivers dont see motorcycles,
Drivers dont LOOK in CT.
Driver education must emphasaize:
1.Observation
2.Signalling
3.Movement
In that order.
The state does a negligent job of recording laws, teaching laws, enforcing laws.
Is anyone surprised at the carnage on our roads?
and will only worsen as people leave their cars due to the expense of $$$ Gas and take to the streets without the benefit of a steel cage.
OSM Learn it. Live by it. Share the Road.
Reasonable?
women are the worse drivers ever. Its either their periods or menoupause, SOMETHINGS ALWAYS WRONG!!! Then then take it out on other motorists
CriticalAss

Monroe, LA

#6 Jul 16, 2008
this violates my rights! I want to block traffic and run lights!

“Proud Skeptic!”

Since: Feb 08

El Paso

#7 Jul 16, 2008
Where is the part where jaywalkers are being cited as well for crossing at places other than crosswalks and corners? I missed that part in the story.
This Is Totally Stupid

San Francisco, CA

#8 Jul 16, 2008
Ok the problem with this law is that it doesn't take into account the distance between the pedestrian and the car he/she decides to step in front of. It seems that the "Get outta my way mentality" is more of a figment of the cops' imaginations than it is an actual thought process going through a driver's head. If someone steps in front of my car without regard to my actual speed or distance from them, they will literally learn a lesson in physics the hard way. Writing a ticket will not 'teach' me anything. A few accidents like this may, however, educate the pedestrians in street-crossing etiquite.
tom H

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Jul 16, 2008
The law used to read, " If you break the pedestrian's stride, you are in violation of the pedestrains right of way ..... I'm only the messenger so don't kill me..... Anyway, that was the way the law was written.
Actually

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jul 16, 2008
This is just another stupid law thought up by a bunch of dim witted
morons that we call state legislators. Only logical thinking would tell
me that if I weigh 125 lbs and a car weighs 2500 lbs I don't think
I would be dumb enough to step out in front of it, although, I think
the same idiots who made this law more than likely would.
Pedestrian that drives

San Leandro, CA

#11 Jul 16, 2008
This Is Totally Stupid wrote:
Ok the problem with this law is that it doesn't take into account the distance between the pedestrian and the car he/she decides to step in front of. It seems that the "Get outta my way mentality" is more of a figment of the cops' imaginations than it is an actual thought process going through a driver's head. If someone steps in front of my car without regard to my actual speed or distance from them, they will literally learn a lesson in physics the hard way. Writing a ticket will not 'teach' me anything. A few accidents like this may, however, educate the pedestrians in street-crossing etiquite.
Yes.

Too often pedestrians just walk right out into the street (crosswalk or not) and expect drivers to SLAM on their brakes! My children get their necks/shoulders injured from the shoulder harness seat belt, and I'm NOT going over the speed limit.

These pedestrian don't even LOOK! Or, they purposely make a car wait at a stop sign while they dribble across the street, group after group.

When I'm a pedestrian in town I:

1) Look both ways first and make sure the vehicle (including bicycles) has sufficient time to stop before I step out.

2) When I encounter a stop sign as a pedestrian, and I OBSERVE (yeah, that means pay attention) the fact that pedestrians have been streaming across the street without giving the cars a chance to cross -- I, a pedestrian, STOP and give the poor driver a chance to cross. It's called being thoughtful of others. Once, when I stopped walking to let a car go through, some people behind me passed me and walked into the street. They were either oblivious or just didn't care.

Whatever. I'm probably the only pedestrian in the world that stops for cars and gives them a turn.
Paymar

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Jul 16, 2008
If I had a dollar for every time a COP sped through an intersection I was waiting to cross I'd be a rich man.

Wait your turn it'll come.
slimjim

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jul 16, 2008
Isn't there a country somewhere where it is never the drivers fault in a auto vs. pedestrian accident? I remember somewhere a car hit a ped the police just yelled at the ped and kicked them back to the sidewalk.
Waste of Time

San Bruno, CA

#14 Jul 16, 2008
What a silly "sting" operation. There are better uses for the expensive manhours wasted on this. Make crosswalks more visible (keep trees trimmed back, keep road striping renewed, install falshing lights where needed) and maybe people would honor them more of the time.

Mission Street is deadly for pedestrians. I stop if anyone is even near a crosswalk.
Sarah D

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Jul 16, 2008
The problem is that even when the light turns red and there's a crosswalk, motorists often just plain won't stop.

Even if the light is green for me, I will wait until I actually see cars slowing down to stop before I step into the street. Because too many stupid motorists seem to think that a red light is just a suggestion to stop.
Thomas

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Jul 16, 2008
What a shame that we have become so stupid that we need the government to pass laws to help us cross the street. I embarrassed to even live here with people so helpless.
Sarah D

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Jul 16, 2008
Halek101 wrote:
<quoted text>
women are the worse drivers ever. Its either their periods or menoupause, SOMETHINGS ALWAYS WRONG!!! Then then take it out on other motorists
So what's YOUR excuse?
Ack Acka Dack

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Jul 16, 2008
Let's pursue, with equal vigilance, a clamp down on the idiots who start walking across the street when you are two blocks away and purposely walk as slow and deliberate as they can. Drive down Rice Street near University Ave for great examples of this!
Sarah D

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jul 16, 2008
Thomas wrote:
What a shame that we have become so stupid that we need the government to pass laws to help us cross the street. I embarrassed to even live here with people so helpless.
You'll be even more embarrassed if you get hit by a car tomorrow and have to eat your words.
Sarah D

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Jul 16, 2008
Ack Acka Dack wrote:
Let's pursue, with equal vigilance, a clamp down on the idiots who start walking across the street when you are two blocks away and purposely walk as slow and deliberate as they can. Drive down Rice Street near University Ave for great examples of this!
I agree. There are laws for pedestrians as well. If they don't follow them, throw the book at them.

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