Erie County renters don't earn wage t...

Erie County renters don't earn wage to afford average apartment

There are 20 comments on the Erie Times News story from Mar 30, 2013, titled Erie County renters don't earn wage to afford average apartment. In it, Erie Times News reports that:

The price of renting a basic two-bedroom apartment in Erie County greatly surpasses the wages earned by a local renter.

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French Bread

Erie, PA

#1 Mar 31, 2013
Partially thanks to the fine democrats on Erie City Council who in their infinite wisdom continue to impose a $25 inspection tax on every single renter within city limits.
kuzin jed

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Mar 31, 2013
If $25 is going to break the bank you are in pretty bad shape. Go live in your car so we can stop and stare at you on the way into the grocery store.
Randy Randerson

Erie, PA

#3 Mar 31, 2013
kuzin jed wrote:
If $25 is going to break the bank you are in pretty bad shape. Go live in your car so we can stop and stare at you on the way into the grocery store.
You seemed to have missed the point of the whole article. Problem with you welfare deadbeats is that you don't work so you don't worry about rent payments or mortgages.
Randy Randerson

Erie, PA

#4 Mar 31, 2013
Randy Randerson wrote:
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You seemed to have missed the point of the whole article. Problem with you welfare deadbeats is that you don't work so you don't worry about rent payments or mortgages.
The problem with you is that you are so stupid you hide behind other people's screen names. Once again I will ask you, why do you want to be me so badly?
French Bread

Erie, PA

#5 Mar 31, 2013
kuzin jed wrote:
If $25 is going to break the bank you are in pretty bad shape. Go live in your car so we can stop and stare at you on the way into the grocery store.
Yes, the majority of people surveyed are in pretty bad shape indeed. I think that's the thrust of the article. If polled I'm sure they would all like to have an extra $25.
Jim

Erie, PA

#6 Mar 31, 2013
Randy Randerson wrote:
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The problem with you is that you are so stupid you hide behind other people's screen names. Once again I will ask you, why do you want to be me so badly?
Hey buddy, don't you have anything better to do with your life than run back and forth on different ISP's using different names all day posting drivel? Life is short man, even for idiots such as you.
TaxNoMore

La Puente, CA

#7 Mar 31, 2013
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"Affordability drives everything," added Pesch, a social-service worker who has analyzed Erie's inner-city housing for nearly 20 years.

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While the town houses will typically range from $170,000 to $259,000,

additional amenities added to the model unit

-- including maple cabinetwork,

granite counter tops and bamboo flooring

-- increased the price to $289,000, Nielsen said.

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Union Square town houses.

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm DELICIOUS.
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I'll take the one for $300,000

Let's see 20% down =$60,000

With my excellent credit what would a 30yr cost me on the remaining $240,000?

30 year @ 3.40 =$1064.35 per month + insurance ++
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Ahhhh call it $1,100
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Taxes on assessed value of $300,000, lets see....looks like about $3,300 per $100,000.

Oh shit!

$9,999 per year?

Call it $10,000 divided by 12 =$833.33 per month?

The 30 yr loan won't change for 30 years, but that public sector run city will double the taxes and then reassess for more.

Between Sinnot and Badams my taxes would be higher than my house payment in 2 or 3 years.

Actually, a one mill punch from those two bought and paid for union ass clowns would put it over the top.

Keep your overpriced shit.
Jim

Erie, PA

#8 Mar 31, 2013
Life is to short to be a dickless, spineless a$$clown like me.
Randy Randerson

Erie, PA

#9 Mar 31, 2013
Jim wrote:
Life is to short to be a dickless, spineless a$$clown like me.
Wow, what a comeback. Sorry life has dealt you such a low level of self esteem.
TaxNoMore

La Puente, CA

#10 Mar 31, 2013
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"It forces people to rent housing that is a barely a notch above substandard.

It really has an impact on their quality of life," said Dave Pesch,

housing counseling programs director for St. Martin Center Inc., 1701 Parade St.

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There was once a very poor man who lived in a miserable little log cabin in the wild part of what was then called "away out West."

It was on a stony, weedy hillside, at a place called Nolin's Creek, in the State of Kentucky.

In that log cabin, on the twelfth day of February, in the year 1809, a little baby was born.

He was named Abraham Lincoln.

I don't believe you ever saw a much poorer or meaner place in which to be born and brought up than that little log cabin.

Abraham Lincoln's father was ignorant and lazy.

He could not read and he hated to work.

Their house had no windows, it had no floor, it had none of the things you have in your pleasant homes.

In all America no baby was ever born with fewer comforts and poorer surroundings than little Abraham Lincoln.

He grew from a baby to a homely little boy, and to a homelier young man.

His clothes never fitted him;

he never,

in all his life,

went to school but one year;

he had to work hard,

he could play but little, and many a day he knew what it was to be cold and hungry and almost homeless.

But with all this he had that in him which makes a man great.

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The disparity between earnings and the cost of affordable rental units will likely be exacerbated by cuts to the HUD budget as a result of federal sequestration.

O...Baaaaaaaaaaaa...Maaaaaaaaa aaaa!!!!

"GIVE US MORE"
TWTL

Erie, PA

#11 Mar 31, 2013
Randy Randerson wrote:
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Wow, what a comeback. Sorry life has dealt you such a low level of self esteem.
Yeah I would never resort to something that lame, like using other people's nicknames to troll them.
TaxNoMore

La Puente, CA

#12 Mar 31, 2013
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The disparity between earnings and the cost of affordable rental units will likely be exacerbated by cuts to the HUD budget as a result of federal sequestration.

O...Baaaaaaaaaaaa...Maaaaaaaaa aaaa!!!!

"GIVE US MORE"

The Stick Up Kidz
LeeeeeeeeRoy

Clyde, OH

#13 Mar 31, 2013
TaxNoMore wrote:
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"Affordability drives everything," added Pesch, a social-service worker who has analyzed Erie's inner-city housing for nearly 20 years.
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While the town houses will typically range from $170,000 to $259,000,
additional amenities added to the model unit
-- including maple cabinetwork,
granite counter tops and bamboo flooring
-- increased the price to $289,000, Nielsen said.
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Union Square town houses.
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm DELICIOUS.
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I'll take the one for $300,000
Let's see 20% down =$60,000
With my excellent credit what would a 30yr cost me on the remaining $240,000?
30 year @ 3.40 =$1064.35 per month + insurance ++
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Ahhhh call it $1,100
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Taxes on assessed value of $300,000, lets see....looks like about $3,300 per $100,000.
Oh shit!
$9,999 per year?
Call it $10,000 divided by 12 =$833.33 per month?
The 30 yr loan won't change for 30 years, but that public sector run city will double the taxes and then reassess for more.
Between Sinnot and Badams my taxes would be higher than my house payment in 2 or 3 years.
Actually, a one mill punch from those two bought and paid for union ass clowns would put it over the top.
Keep your overpriced shit.
I plan on doubling my money on my two units by next terse when the economy turns around.
TaxNoMore

La Puente, CA

#15 Apr 1, 2013
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Bosworth's research for the company he founded,

Seattle-based FutureWorks,

also cited years of poor civic and government management,

specifically the lack of a unified game plan,

as a catalyst for the region's economic decline.

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"Over the next 10 years, the region is headed for serious economic problems," Bosworth said of Erie at the time.

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"Unless the leaders and residents of Erie take dramatic steps to counter current trends,

we believe the regional economy will continue to shrink relative to the rest of the nation;

income and opportunity will erode and people,

especially young adults,

will leave the region at an accelerating pace."

Following the report's release, change and turnaround were promised.
Jim

Erie, PA

#16 Apr 1, 2013
TWTL wrote:
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Yeah I would never resort to something that lame, like using other people's nicknames to troll them.
Apparently you.
TWTL

Erie, PA

#17 Apr 1, 2013
Jim wrote:
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Apparently you.
I'm sorry were you going to finish? Apparently you....are just playing the game TWTL started a few days ago.
CRANK

Erie, PA

#18 Apr 1, 2013
TaxNoMore wrote:
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Bosworth's research for the company he founded,
Seattle-based FutureWorks,
also cited years of poor civic and government management,
specifically the lack of a unified game plan,
as a catalyst for the region's economic decline.
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"Over the next 10 years, the region is headed for serious economic problems," Bosworth said of Erie at the time.
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"Unless the leaders and residents of Erie take dramatic steps to counter current trends,
we believe the regional economy will continue to shrink relative to the rest of the nation;
income and opportunity will erode and people,
especially young adults,
will leave the region at an accelerating pace."
Following the report's release, change and turnaround were promised.
I attended a number of presentations and meetings at the time the Bosworth study was going on, and after he presented his findings. It was obvious to most everyone at the time, that he was wasting his time as the so called leadership, elected and otherwise, was not the least bit interested in making any actual change.
Especially concerning was the reactions of then city council members several of whom openly scoffed at the presentations.

The bottom line in my opinion, was a collective refusal to face the reality that revenues were not keeping up with spending, and that in addition to not having a plan in place to address the revenue needs, there was absolutely no desire to stop spending increases. The feeling was the state and federal governments would always be there with more money. The attitude was we spend, someone else pays.

The only thing to come out of the process was the collective hand out looking for money from surrounding municipalities for so called regional assets. That was before gaming money was available.

So here we are. Years later. No plan in place, and still looking for someone else to pay our bills.

Since: Mar 13

Erie, PA

#19 Apr 1, 2013
Seriously in another issue housing, how many pay a very small portion of thier rent, section 8 is off the charts and low income owners racking new homes with lerta increasing and extended, does 20% of the city even know what they should be paying if it wernt for a handout of sorts?
CRANK

Erie, PA

#20 Apr 1, 2013
Whitey Repub wrote:
Seriously in another issue housing, how many pay a very small portion of thier rent, section 8 is off the charts and low income owners racking new homes with lerta increasing and extended, does 20% of the city even know what they should be paying if it wernt for a handout of sorts?
No they don't. Which makes one wonder why people think that $170,000.00 and up condos and townhouses are going to sell in the middle of that.
Randy Randerson

Erie, PA

#21 Apr 1, 2013
TWTL wrote:
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I'm sorry were you going to finish? Apparently you....are just playing the game TWTL started a few days ago.
You're TWTL. Having trouble remembering all your stolen name... stupid??

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