Update: 100K Club at the Erie County ...

Update: 100K Club at the Erie County Holding Center

There are 90 comments on the WIVB Buffalo story from Feb 28, 2008, titled Update: 100K Club at the Erie County Holding Center. In it, WIVB Buffalo reports that:

Investigative Reporter Luke Moretti first told you about this story earlier this month and tonight he has an update.

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York, ME

#1 Feb 28, 2008
Why don't they put that light duty cop back in the front office, hell he's been on full pay for over six months now and we pay overtime to cover his absence.?
KAREN

Buffalo, NY

#2 Feb 28, 2008
SHERIFF HOWARD SHOULD WATCH HIS 11-7 SHIFT-I KNOW FOR FACT THAT THE ENTIRE SHIFT CALLS OFF FOR PARTIES-STAGS ETC. & NO ONE CATCHES THESE DEPUTIES. THE RULE IS -"IF YOU ARE TOO ILL TO BE AT WORK YOU ARE TO BE HOME"-THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DEPT DOES NOT WORK THE 11-7 SHIFT SO THESE PEOPLE ARE NEVER CAUGHT. MANY TIMES THE 3-11 SHIFT IS MANDATED TO WORK OVERTTIME BECAUSE OF THIS NONSENSE.PEOPLE ARE INJURED ON THE JOB AND ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO REMAIN HOME DURING THEIR REGULAR WORKING SHIFT-INTERNAL AFFAIRS WILL CHECK ON THESE DEPUTIES BUT NOT THE PARTY PEOPLE-SHERIFF HOWARD SEE THE LIGHT!!!
Tirko

York, ME

#3 Feb 28, 2008
I think the Cop from the front office is in weapons training. I saw him in the range last Friday I believe. I was told he's going to Civil division.
tara

AOL

#4 Feb 29, 2008
First of all, these people are stuck in that hell hole all the time!!! I don't begrudge them their money!!! Let's look at the judges and politicians who scam the public!!!! Not the regular guy!!!!! That jail is pure hell!!! These people live there!!!!
Secondly, don't let regular deputies do the schedule, a certain Dave likes to work the schedule so he can get the maximum OT! I think he made 131,000!!!!
Joe Harddick

United States

#5 Feb 29, 2008
tara wrote:
First of all, these people are stuck in that hell hole all the time!!! I don't begrudge them their money!!! Let's look at the judges and politicians who scam the public!!!! Not the regular guy!!!!! That jail is pure hell!!! These people live there!!!!
Secondly, don't let regular deputies do the schedule, a certain Dave likes to work the schedule so he can get the maximum OT! I think he made 131,000!!!!
Hey Tara why don't you get your head out of the clouds These deputies DO NOT HAVE IT AS BAD AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE. PLUS THEY ARE VERY, VERY, WELL COMPENSATED! Anyone with a HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, MINIMAL TRAINING, WHO CAN UNLOCK DOORS,DO CELL SEARCHES, AND COUNT TO 90 GETS THESE TYPES OF JOBS. THESE DEPUTIES KNOW THEY ARE MILKING IT AND ARE TAKING AS MUCH ADVANTAGE OF THE OVERTIME AS MUCH AS THEY CAN! ALL THEY DO IS CONVERSATE TO EACH OTHER ON THEIR SHIFTS ABOUT WHO,WHEN AND HOW MUCH OVERTIME THEY ARE GETTING TO EACH OTHER ALL SHIFT,HARD WORK HUH? THESE GUYS KNOW HOW TO ABUSE THE TAXPAYERS AND THEN MAKE THESE STATEMENTS LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT ,GOSH THERE JOB IS SO HARD! GIVE ME A BREAK THESE GUYS SIT AROUND HALF THE TIME DOING NOTHING MORE THAN BABYSITTING!
Shamrock

Fairport, NY

#6 Feb 29, 2008
I am a wife of a SHeriff Deputy downtown and it frustrates me that this is what we are spending time on when there are other issues out there. Overtime is brutal and I hate it! My husband gets forced often which leaves no time for family. People need to realize that it will be a never ending situation.
A Tax Payer

AOL

#7 Feb 29, 2008
Let's get to the real reason for the $100000.00 club, it's called RETIREMENT. The more you gross the hhigher your RETIREMENT pay will be. It's been investigated before and nobody seems to care or want to do anything about it.
Tony

United States

#8 Feb 29, 2008
tara wrote:
First of all, these people are stuck in that hell hole all the time!!! I don't begrudge them their money!!! Let's look at the judges and politicians who scam the public!!!! Not the regular guy!!!!! That jail is pure hell!!! These people live there!!!!
Secondly, don't let regular deputies do the schedule, a certain Dave likes to work the schedule so he can get the maximum OT! I think he made 131,000!!!!
Regular deputies do not "work the schedule", whatever that means. Lieutenants do the schedule. To make that much, a certain Dave would have to work 80 to 88 hours a week.
Tony

United States

#9 Feb 29, 2008
Joe Harddick wrote:
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Hey Tara why don't you get your head out of the clouds These deputies DO NOT HAVE IT AS BAD AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE. PLUS THEY ARE VERY, VERY, WELL COMPENSATED! Anyone with a HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, MINIMAL TRAINING, WHO CAN UNLOCK DOORS,DO CELL SEARCHES, AND COUNT TO 90 GETS THESE TYPES OF JOBS. THESE DEPUTIES KNOW THEY ARE MILKING IT AND ARE TAKING AS MUCH ADVANTAGE OF THE OVERTIME AS MUCH AS THEY CAN! ALL THEY DO IS CONVERSATE TO EACH OTHER ON THEIR SHIFTS ABOUT WHO,WHEN AND HOW MUCH OVERTIME THEY ARE GETTING TO EACH OTHER ALL SHIFT,HARD WORK HUH? THESE GUYS KNOW HOW TO ABUSE THE TAXPAYERS AND THEN MAKE THESE STATEMENTS LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT ,GOSH THERE JOB IS SO HARD! GIVE ME A BREAK THESE GUYS SIT AROUND HALF THE TIME DOING NOTHING MORE THAN BABYSITTING!
Hey Joe, step up to the plate and take our feeble exam. Come join me when I have to restrain an inmate who has covered himself in his own feces and is refusing to lock in his cell. Of course, by law I can't be allowed to know if he has AIDS, but what the heck, I only have "minimal training" and a high school diploma- wait, I actually have a bachelor's degree from SUNY @ Buffalo. I think you're just a bitter, jealous individual.
Mark

Windham, ME

#10 Feb 29, 2008
Joe Harddick wrote:
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Hey Tara why don't you get your head out of the clouds These deputies DO NOT HAVE IT AS BAD AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE. PLUS THEY ARE VERY, VERY, WELL COMPENSATED! Anyone with a HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, MINIMAL TRAINING, WHO CAN UNLOCK DOORS,DO CELL SEARCHES, AND COUNT TO 90 GETS THESE TYPES OF JOBS. THESE DEPUTIES KNOW THEY ARE MILKING IT AND ARE TAKING AS MUCH ADVANTAGE OF THE OVERTIME AS MUCH AS THEY CAN! ALL THEY DO IS CONVERSATE TO EACH OTHER ON THEIR SHIFTS ABOUT WHO,WHEN AND HOW MUCH OVERTIME THEY ARE GETTING TO EACH OTHER ALL SHIFT,HARD WORK HUH? THESE GUYS KNOW HOW TO ABUSE THE TAXPAYERS AND THEN MAKE THESE STATEMENTS LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT ,GOSH THERE JOB IS SO HARD! GIVE ME A BREAK THESE GUYS SIT AROUND HALF THE TIME DOING NOTHING MORE THAN BABYSITTING!
Hey Joe, Did you ever think these people in the lock up are NOT nice guys who listen and do what the nice CO says? They are there because they broke the law ...they are scum bags and act like it . The inmates piss on the cell doors and spit at the "Deps" along with that remember they are crazy enough to have commited a crime ...do you think they are sweet as pie when they get to jail? As for how easy the job is , I wish you could try it 1 night...you would pee your panties sweetie. The "Deps" deserve all they get and more , and who cares if they call in sick as long as the time is coming to them it is no concern of mine if they are not sick.Joe I am guessing that you HAVE been to jail and are not employeed umless you count your SSI check every month. Go but a 40 oz and zone out as you eat a bag of chips and degrade cops but remember ...when you call them because you need them for help you said- they are just button pushes with no education...Get a clue limpdick oops I mean Joe harddick.
Joe Harddick

United States

#11 Feb 29, 2008
Tony wrote:
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Hey Joe, step up to the plate and take our feeble exam. Come join me when I have to restrain an inmate who has covered himself in his own feces and is refusing to lock in his cell. Of course, by law I can't be allowed to know if he has AIDS, but what the heck, I only have "minimal training" and a high school diploma- wait, I actually have a bachelor's degree from SUNY @ Buffalo. I think you're just a bitter, jealous individual.
Why o you feel the need to voice such comments. If you are a deputy and have a degree GOOD FOR YOU! The bottom line is not ALL of you key toter's and babysitters need to have a degree to do this type of job. Oh by the way the feces bearing inmates are isolated incidents that MY TAX DOLLARS buy you your heavy gear to protect yourself with. You are barking up the wrong tree I have seen the behaviors of deputies and to me it is not worth 100,000 a year. You are trying to justify all of this money being spent because you know you want to keep getting those OT HOURS! GIVE ME A BREAK,do your count,open some gates, and confiscate some crack dealers dirty underwear and make your contraband reports,OVERPAID BABYSITTERS! BY THE WAY THERE IS A 3-11 SHIFT OPEN FOE TOMORROW WHY DON'T YOU SIGN UP FOR IT TONY AND LOCK IN YOUR COMMENTS FOR ME!
jim from buffalo

United States

#12 Feb 29, 2008
First I think Joe HARDDICK pulls his last name to much. These duputys work with the scum of the earth and only GOD knows what disease is lurking around. These men and women do not always want this overtime but are forced to work.How would you like to have to be one of three deputys watching 80 scumbags knowing that two of you have been forced to work 16 hours three straight days. This does not sound to safe to me.
Joe Harddick

United States

#13 Feb 29, 2008
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Joe, Did you ever think these people in the lock up are NOT nice guys who listen and do what the nice CO says? They are there because they broke the law ...they are scum bags and act like it . The inmates piss on the cell doors and spit at the "Deps" along with that remember they are crazy enough to have commited a crime ...do you think they are sweet as pie when they get to jail? As for how easy the job is , I wish you could try it 1 night...you would pee your panties sweetie. The "Deps" deserve all they get and more , and who cares if they call in sick as long as the time is coming to them it is no concern of mine if they are not sick.Joe I am guessing that you HAVE been to jail and are not employeed umless you count your SSI check every month. Go but a 40 oz and zone out as you eat a bag of chips and degrade cops but remember ...when you call them because you need them for help you said- they are just button pushes with no education...Get a clue limpdick oops I mean Joe harddick.
THANKS for the nice response back MARK Justify all you want about being paid 100,000 a year to babysit some 18 year old east thugs! These deputies are taking advantage of TAXPAYERS DOLLARS! GIVE ME A BREAK! By the way you bonehead I would never degrade myself of working this type of brain dead job,THANKS FOR ASKING,you can keep asking the inmates to bend over and cough in front of you checking for frivolous things that never enter the jail anyway! Count clear bonehead!
Mark

Windham, ME

#14 Feb 29, 2008
Let me ask this of you, do you feel the same about all "prison guards"? Also I do not agree with gobbs of OT for anyone , consider this tho , if you hire more to stop the OT what you do is really spend more tax money with health bennies and 401k etc...I do not agree with lazy officers who milk the system but those officers are a small part of a very important group of men and woman who DID choose the job they do and do it the best they can. Without giving yourself away ...tell us , have you "seen " the officers you speak of while you were locked up as a "guest" or are you a county employee? NOw maybe if we can have a frank chat here we can hepl eachother understand our points instead of doing a Jerry Springer show...let's help eachother understand.
THEREALITYCHECK

York, ME

#15 Mar 1, 2008
Joe Harddick wrote:
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THANKS for the nice response back MARK Justify all you want about being paid 100,000 a year to babysit some 18 year old east thugs! These deputies are taking advantage of TAXPAYERS DOLLARS! GIVE ME A BREAK! By the way you bonehead I would never degrade myself of working this type of brain dead job,THANKS FOR ASKING,you can keep asking the inmates to bend over and cough in front of you checking for frivolous things that never enter the jail anyway! Count clear bonehead!
Are you a moron? Do you think that the deputies say "I think I want to get paid double today so let me bull the taxpayers." The state mandates the positions that need to be filled on every shift. Is that the workers fault? Whether you volunteer for the overtime or you are forced, the slots have to be filled. I'd like to see you spend some time with the 18 year old east side thugs who are in there for murder, armed robbery, rape. You probably cross the street when you see a couple black kids walking toward you. Jealousy because you are afraid to do the job is what it sounds like. STAY SAFE DEPS!
THEREALITYCHECK

York, ME

#16 Mar 1, 2008
Joe Harddick wrote:
<quoted text>Why o you feel the need to voice such comments. If you are a deputy and have a degree GOOD FOR YOU! The bottom line is not ALL of you key toter's and babysitters need to have a degree to do this type of job. Oh by the way the feces bearing inmates are isolated incidents that MY TAX DOLLARS buy you your heavy gear to protect yourself with. You are barking up the wrong tree I have seen the behaviors of deputies and to me it is not worth 100,000 a year. You are trying to justify all of this money being spent because you know you want to keep getting those OT HOURS! GIVE ME A BREAK,do your count,open some gates, and confiscate some crack dealers dirty underwear and make your contraband reports,OVERPAID BABYSITTERS! BY THE WAY THERE IS A 3-11 SHIFT OPEN FOE TOMORROW WHY DON'T YOU SIGN UP FOR IT TONY AND LOCK IN YOUR COMMENTS FOR ME!
Heavy gear? What heavy gear? Do you mean the polyester pants and shirt that is the UNIFORM? You should lock in your stupid comments when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Joe Harddick

United States

#17 Mar 1, 2008
THEREALITYCHECK wrote:
<quoted text> Are you a moron? Do you think that the deputies say "I think I want to get paid double today so let me bull the taxpayers." The state mandates the positions that need to be filled on every shift. Is that the workers fault? Whether you volunteer for the overtime or you are forced, the slots have to be filled. I'd like to see you spend some time with the 18 year old east side thugs who are in there for murder, armed robbery, rape. You probably cross the street when you see a couple black kids walking toward you. Jealousy because you are afraid to do the job is what it sounds like. STAY SAFE DEPS!
Look yoe jackass,i have lived on the east side and have no fears of any of what your dumb a** is implying. Secondly these shifts and rates toay these wanna be rent a cops or overly priced s security guards is a joke. Another racist comment labeling young east side thugs as only black. You live in Lockport,you probably never lived in the city anyway,so shut your dumb a** up and live your life in Lockport. this is not about jealousy, i really would not want to do such a brain dead job, nor do i find doing a cell search and confiscating some sex offenders dirty drawers a career move at any point YOU JACKASS! You are trying to justify 100,000 a year for this type of work, GIVE ME A BREAK BONEHEAD! I have not watched the news lately seeing any type of deputies being harmed in any fashion in many years in the holding center. The reason is you jackass, the laws are designed that if an inmate commits ANY CRIME towards a deputy or guard they will receive a new charge or be placed into a solitary confinement which limits the problems in the secured facility. So stop justifying to me like the rest of these A-HOLES, HOW DANGEROUS THERE JOBS ARE TO NEED ALL OF THIS MONEY.
Joe Harddick

United States

#18 Mar 1, 2008
Shamrock wrote:
I am a wife of a SHeriff Deputy downtown and it frustrates me that this is what we are spending time on when there are other issues out there. Overtime is brutal and I hate it! My husband gets forced often which leaves no time for family. People need to realize that it will be a never ending situation.
Please lady, I am sure your living just fine with your husband making this type of money at the Taxpayers expense. It frustrates you because you like your husband bringing this type of money home and could not imagine if he was having to make the minimum salary and you would have to adjust your lifestyle! No time for family, please I am sure on weekends he is barbecuing some BIG FAT STEAKS on the grill with all of that misused funding these deputies are getting away with! I am sure tyou tremble with fear thinking what if one of those young thugs were to do something in the jail,right? Please it a a way for people who do not know what goes on in there to KEEP JUSTIFYING these OVERPAID BABYSITTERS need to keep taking money frm a County that is already BROKE!
THEREALITYCHECK

York, ME

#19 Mar 1, 2008
Joe Harddick wrote:
<quoted text>
Look yoe jackass,i have lived on the east side and have no fears of any of what your dumb a** is implying. Secondly these shifts and rates toay these wanna be rent a cops or overly priced s security guards is a joke. Another racist comment labeling young east side thugs as only black. You live in Lockport,you probably never lived in the city anyway,so shut your dumb a** up and live your life in Lockport. this is not about jealousy, i really would not want to do such a brain dead job, nor do i find doing a cell search and confiscating some sex offenders dirty drawers a career move at any point YOU JACKASS! You are trying to justify 100,000 a year for this type of work, GIVE ME A BREAK BONEHEAD! I have not watched the news lately seeing any type of deputies being harmed in any fashion in many years in the holding center. The reason is you jackass, the laws are designed that if an inmate commits ANY CRIME towards a deputy or guard they will receive a new charge or be placed into a solitary confinement which limits the problems in the secured facility. So stop justifying to me like the rest of these A-HOLES, HOW DANGEROUS THERE JOBS ARE TO NEED ALL OF THIS MONEY.
Now it's all very clear. You grew up on the east side, so you've probably formed your opinion of the holding center from INSIDE the facility. You are mighty angry about cell searches, what happen they found your extra fruit you were saving for hooch? Or let me guess, you act the way you write so you spent some time in the hole. Don't be a hater. You too could be making 100 grand if you could pass a test or a background check.
Joe Harddick

United States

#20 Mar 1, 2008
THEREALITYCHECK wrote:
<quoted text> Heavy gear? What heavy gear? Do you mean the polyester pants and shirt that is the UNIFORM? You should lock in your stupid comments when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Hey Jackass, does crash helmets heavy padded vests and electrical shock barriers sound like more than polyester pants and shirts. You idiot they have special tactical teams that are used in these type of special situations that wear the heavy gear. why don't you do me a favor and just go visit the facility and see how controlled the environment really is. These violent episodes are rare in county jails, stop watching MNBC LOCK UP SHOWS SHOWING WHERE THE REAL VIOLENCE AND GANGS OCCUR IN CALIFORNIA PRISONS! THIS IS A HOLDING CENTER,THEY ARE RELEASING INMATES AND HOLDING THEM FOR COURT!

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