A chilly reception

A chilly reception

There are 134 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 30, 2008, titled A chilly reception. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Gov. Mitch Daniels knew he was playing to a hostile crowd Tuesday afternoon, but he didn't back down.

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We Are Screwed

Grand Rapids, MI

#123 Jan 30, 2008
Cutler girl wrote:
I applaud the governor's thrift, but I don't support this proposal. Even though my property taxes are up, I am not for cutting county commissioners down to one. I grew up in KY where we have county judge executives. Cut the role to one person like that and you end up with one person having all the power, all the say, and what you get is corruption and a good old boys system where you have to be in with the guy to see anything happen. At least the way it is we have some checks and balances. We have more than one person to take our concerns up with. You know what they say about how absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Very well put. If all of you consider what was said here you might look at this differently. How do countries (IRAQ) do with one person in power? Not very well at all. Kudos to the lady who responded in this fashion...

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#124 Jan 30, 2008
Rally on Friday wrote:
Property Tax Rally
February 1, 2008
Noon at The State House
Politician thieves are unwelcome in Indiana !
Citizens statewide are coming on Friday to let their legislators know they have had enough of the cronyism and politics in the state house. We are coming to tell the legislators that they are to put the People's interests first.HOOSIERS FOR FAIR TAXATION will be there on Friday for ALL of Indiana's citizens. We do not support the marriage amendment or any other legislation that steals attention from our state's tax crisis. We support open, accountable government that uses our money wisely.
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While Eric Miller's Advance America has done much to push property tax repeal, he now drives a wedge into the property tax repeal momentum by attaching citizen activism to his christian right agenda as he joins the marriage amendment to a property tax rally.
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We expect the government to get out of our personal lives. Since politicians have proven they cannot effectively govern the government with our best interests in mind, why would we want them involved in our personal relationships?
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Join us at noon on Friday and look for the giant banner that says: "Politicans, do you want our houses?" Bring signs and posters. Let them know you are voting them out in November.
www.HoosiersForFairTaxation.com
Lts see what will most people be doing Friday at noon? Could thay be working at thier jobs?
Citizen

Indianapolis, IN

#125 Jan 30, 2008
I would not like to be out of a job at this time, but somewhere this government bureaucracy has to end. It is ridiculous to have over 1,000 assessors in our state. It is just too expensive, and the job they are doing is...well, look at your bill and see if the property you own is really worth what they claim...

Whether we should require one person to be elected to run each county is a big question...but we don't have to make that decision now. Mitch should stay focused on the property tax issues and the assessors are part of that...the CEO issue could be debated later. Personally, I would rather have a voice in who gets these offices, so that when they are found to be incompetent, we can get rid of them. There is a lot of nepotism in the townships and counties, so voting on a CEO and letting him appoint the rest of the offices is just asking for an even bigger "good old boy" system.

After Mitch gets done eliminating the fat from Indiana's bureaucracy, maybe he could go to Washington and do the same. One in four workers in this country work for the government (and do not pay Social Security). Maybe that's why SS is so broke. But that's another fight...
Stuart Kinney

Goodwell, OK

#126 Jan 30, 2008
Good News wrote:
Thanks, Mitch! In a time when the vast majority of Indiana citizens are hurting because of high taxes and a slumping economy, it makes sense to trim budgets - including governmental ones. Thanks for having the guts to propose sensible reform to reduce government waste. Let's all hope it goes through. As for those who might be facing layoffs because of the new proposal - yeah, times are tough - join the club. My tax dollars don't need to subsidize unnecessary salaries, pensions and health care costs.
Clay Township/Clay Township Regional Waste District is not waste. It is a vital component of my community, Home Place, in Hamilton County. My police, fire security, roads, and tax assessment, along with my water result from the Hamilton County/Clay Township/Clay Township Regional District's historic, sensible, LOW TAX, governmental partnership.

Hoosier/Home Place resident
wrr49

Louisville, KY

#127 Jan 30, 2008
How would Mitch feel if Lilly and other companies he is involve with start laying off. Would be a crisis and he would be finding ways to give tax abatements to them.
Evansville

Ravenna, MI

#128 Jan 30, 2008
"The concern is (he is) taking government away from the people," Burger said. "By going to a county CEO and having just one individual appoint every elected official is disengaging, rather than engaging.
I thought the voters appointed "every elected" official
Elphaba

United States

#129 Jan 30, 2008
We Are Screwed wrote:
<quoted text>The county commissioners and county council jobs are usually a part time job. I know all of the people who hold those seats locally and they have full time jobs in addition to doing their part time government job. And none of these positions pay big money. In my estimation the we would be far better off without a GOVERNOR than local people.
Ours gets zero out of pocket health insurance paid by the taxpayers.

“BALLARD LIED”

Since: Jul 07

Indianapolis

#130 Jan 30, 2008
This has been in the works for well over 107 years in Indiana what is the hold up. That should be long enough for any one to make up their mind on the issue of township governments.
City council president

United States

#131 Jan 30, 2008
I hope that if you live in a small community or rural area, you don't mind someone from outside of your community deciding how many fire trucks, ambulances, etc, you need. Has anyone seen government work well at a higher level? If you have a problem out in the county where you live, do you think you will be able to immediately speak to the "County Executive" downtown? The government closest to the people is still the best government!
Huh

Schaumburg, IL

#132 Jan 30, 2008
Bartholomew Co taxpayer wrote:
It's about time we got out of the 19th century way of doing things. There needs to be big changes in our county with all the arrogance there is in both city and county politics-the mayor of Columbus, who needs to come clean on the real reason the former police chief resigned and one county commissioner in particular.
a lot of people think Bartholomew County and the City of Columbus are doing pretty well, not just by Indiana standards, but also mid-west standards. Pick another fight buddy.
JBP

Bringhurst, IN

#133 Jan 30, 2008
jrszabo wrote:
<quoted text>You wouldn't say this if you are facing layoffs because of Mitch's proposal!!
Probably not, but that doesn't change the facts that there is way too much waste in government. Or do you think government's job is just to employ as many people as possible?
JBP

Bringhurst, IN

#134 Jan 30, 2008
Tired of Mitch wrote:
Mitch does'nt want to talk about what caused the increase last year...remember the inventory tax! How is one tax being reduced and another increasing going to help the average Joe? All smoke & mirrors!
Yeah, I remember the inventory tax. That's the tax that kept lots of new businesses from locating in Indiana. The repeal of that tax is one of the reasons why Daniels has had such success bringing in new jobs to our state. Those jobs, by the way, is how "one tax being reduced and another increasing" helps the "average Joe."
Bartholomew Co taxpayer

Columbus, IN

#135 Jan 30, 2008
a lot of people think Bartholomew County and the City of Columbus are doing pretty well, not just by Indiana standards, but also mid-west standards. Pick another fight buddy.
Maybe so...but there's also a substanial amount that are sick and tired of the status quo. As I said, if the public knew the real reason the police was forced to resign...there would be outrage
Linda Jeter

Salt Lake City, UT

#136 Jan 31, 2008
Thank you Governor Daniels for attempting to protect the taxpayers from having to chip in more of our hard earned money to pay the salaries of several unnecessary elected officials. In fact after being a clerk treasurer I can tell you first hand what a waste of money a town council and town manager can be. Most of them do not do anything to help the citizens, although former Council President Ron Sullivan was one exception to that. For instance, hiring someone who lives 3 hours away, paying them 71K including family insurance benefits, giving them the use of a car, paid car insurance and all the gas he needs. I could give you several other examples, but I am sure you know how some people take advantage of the system.

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