Panel clears southwest Missouri sheri...

Panel clears southwest Missouri sheriff in fatal shooting

There are 66 comments on the Springfield News-Leader story from Nov 28, 2012, titled Panel clears southwest Missouri sheriff in fatal shooting. In it, Springfield News-Leader reports that:

AVA, Mo. -- A coroner's jury has found that a southwest Missouri sheriff's fatal shooting of a man whose companion he was trying to arrest was justifiable homicide.

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Secret

Mansfield, MO

#1 Dec 1, 2012
Right choice
I was at the inquest

Branson, MO

#2 Dec 1, 2012
Secret wrote:
Right choice
Yes, I argee with you completely!
Unbelievable

Brighton, MO

#3 Dec 1, 2012
Feel sorry it took so long to clear it all up!

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#4 Dec 6, 2012
I feel sorry for this family of Phillips, they still don't have any answers and Degase made sure of that! No witnesses! He damn sure made sure of that though huh?
Unbelievable

United States

#5 Dec 6, 2012
Lets put a gun in your hand and send some one druged out and coming after you see what you do!!!!!!

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#6 Dec 7, 2012
Unbelievable wrote:
Lets put a gun in your hand and send some one druged out and coming after you see what you do!!!!!!
Yeah, well Degase is SUPPOSED to be a TRAINED professional! I don't give a damn how you try and validate it, it was an OVERKILL! The man had a pair of pliers, not a gun. It was broad daylight and the pliers could be very visably seen! There was no reson to shoot him point blank in the chest as well as 3 other shots to his body! A shot to his knees caps would have ended the progression towards Degase! There was no need to shoot him 4 fu##ing times over a damn pair of pliers! If this man would have had a gun, then so be it, but a damn pair of pliers, come on now, get real!
What happened to all that police training the county and our taxes are paying for? Hell his stun gun would have disabled this man with the pliers, but shot 4 times with a .9mm glock? If you don't think that was OVERKILL there is something definately wrong with you!
So now what, is Degase going to shoot every suspect he stops and wants to detain? He got by with this one! What if it had of been a baby bottle in the man's hands? Would you have thought he need to be killed over it? The man should have been subdued and arrested and had his day in court. This is NOT the Wild Wild West here, or is it? I am not saying this mans was in the right to approach Degase, but two wrongs do NOT make a right and he didn't deserve to be killed over a damn pair of pliers he was working on his broken down car with! If that was the case, why didn't Degase just shoot him when he first got out of his car, he could see the man had a pair of pliers and was trying to fix his car! Or maybe he did, we just really don't know now do we? We only have Degase's word for it. And I also find it hard to believe that a 90lb. gals could physicaly fight Degase and get away to run through the woods! In my opinuion, she probably took off running as soom as she saw him pulling up! Don't forget, alot of us have police scanners and I heard the whole drama on mine that day! I heard several calls mad to dispatch stating that Crystal was walking up the county roads with pajamas and a t-shirt on, giving her descripton etc. and exactly where she was! Why didn't Degase get back in his car and go find her? She was who he was looking to arrest. He could have went back and got him, after all, he was afoot and had a disabled car. She was the one with warrants!
June

Kansas City, MO

#7 Dec 7, 2012
Pam Brayfield wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, well Degase is SUPPOSED to be a TRAINED professional! I don't give a damn how you try and validate it, it was an OVERKILL! The man had a pair of pliers, not a gun. It was broad daylight and the pliers could be very visably seen! There was no reson to shoot him point blank in the chest as well as 3 other shots to his body! A shot to his knees caps would have ended the progression towards Degase! There was no need to shoot him 4 fu##ing times over a damn pair of pliers! If this man would have had a gun, then so be it, but a damn pair of pliers, come on now, get real!
What happened to all that police training the county and our taxes are paying for? Hell his stun gun would have disabled this man with the pliers, but shot 4 times with a .9mm glock? If you don't think that was OVERKILL there is something definately wrong with you!
So now what, is Degase going to shoot every suspect he stops and wants to detain? He got by with this one! What if it had of been a baby bottle in the man's hands? Would you have thought he need to be killed over it? The man should have been subdued and arrested and had his day in court. This is NOT the Wild Wild West here, or is it? I am not saying this mans was in the right to approach Degase, but two wrongs do NOT make a right and he didn't deserve to be killed over a damn pair of pliers he was working on his broken down car with! If that was the case, why didn't Degase just shoot him when he first got out of his car, he could see the man had a pair of pliers and was trying to fix his car! Or maybe he did, we just really don't know now do we? We only have Degase's word for it. And I also find it hard to believe that a 90lb. gals could physicaly fight Degase and get away to run through the woods! In my opinuion, she probably took off running as soom as she saw him pulling up! Don't forget, alot of us have police scanners and I heard the whole drama on mine that day! I heard several calls mad to dispatch stating that Crystal was walking up the county roads with pajamas and a t-shirt on, giving her descripton etc. and exactly where she was! Why didn't Degase get back in his car and go find her? She was who he was looking to arrest. He could have went back and got him, after all, he was afoot and had a disabled car. She was the one with warrants!
Maybe the next one will be smarter unless its you.
Well see

Ozark, MO

#8 Dec 7, 2012
Pam let me come at you with a pair of pliers with the intent of running them thru your eyes into your brain be put a pistol on your side and see how many times you shoot!!! People have no clue what those two were capable of!!

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

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#9 Dec 8, 2012
Oh bullshit! Number one the guy had his pliers in his RIGHT hand, and he was LEFT-HANDED! Evidnetly he wasn't intending to hurt nobody with them. And it wasn't like he intentionally ran to the car and got the pliers to hurt Degase, he was already stranded in the road, trying to work on his car with the pliers! I don't give a damn what you say, it didn't take 4 shots from a .9mm glock to stop someone from advancing towards anubody with a pair of pliers in his hand, especially from a cop that has had loads of training on disarming suspects. The county has paid over and over for Degase to be trained as an officer, even back when he was a deputy for Koop!
It's really funny, they were able to disarm that Gunter boy and take him to jail, they didn't have to kill him did they? And he was definately armed with guns. lots of them!
In my opinion, Degase was pissed when Prock ran off from him and he took out his revenge on that man!
I only wish that when they have alleged witnesses like the 2 women who cliam to have "heard" Degase tell Phillips to get down, that they were made to take lie detectors testd before they are allowed to testify! If they were close enough to "hear" words being spoken, they were close enough to SEE what was going on!
There were NO witnesses and it took 30 minutes to get back up there, alot can go on in 30 minutes! Like placing the pliers in the WRONG hand!
So the general thought of these posts is that if you are a drug user and you get stranded on the road with car trouble, it's OKAY for the sheriff to shoot you 4 times and kill you! Sue hope none of you family ever gets hooked on drugs and has car trouble out in the middle of nowhere!
Degase's beef wasn't with Phillips, he was trying to arrest Prock! When she ran, he should have chased her and came back to Phillips once he had her in custody, after all, Phillips wasn't goping anywhere!
I heard the scanner that day and I heard several calls made to the dispatcher and the dispatcher to Degase, telling him what road she was walking down and what she was wearing, etc. These calls stated she was walking down county roads, not running through the woods.
Again, I still say this could all have been avoided if he would have went and arrested Prock, in town when he received many calls as to where she was IN TOWN, before this day! It is known for a fact that the office received a call just a few days before this that she was INSIDE McDonlds, eating, where Degase and a deputy along with city police for back-up could have cover both doors and either went inside and got her out of waited until she came out and arrested her!Hell, she was in town EVERYDAY, driving her own vehicle, so why wasn't she ever arrested then?
There's NO excuse for what happened that day, non whatsoever. If he had of shot that man in his knees and waited on his back up, he could have been arrested and held accountable for hindering Degase in his arrest, if that is truly what was going on!
They always say, you don't take a knife to a gun fight, well, in this case he shouldn't have taken a gun to a pliers fight in my opinion. Being shot once would have disabled or perhaps even killed him, him unless he was Superman, there was no need for him to be shot 4 times.
ive never

Kansas City, KS

#10 Dec 8, 2012
Agreed with Pam on any post she has ever made but I am gonna have to agree with her last two posts for sure. Starting to have a little sense about her in her old age lol
info

United States

#11 Dec 9, 2012
Pam Brayfield Harris is an idiot.
chris

Branson, MO

#12 Dec 9, 2012
Pam i thought u were a big fan of Degases when did that change??? one day ur praisin him & the next ur cussin him! I would of done the same as him, when a person is under the influnce of drugs( as u know)u don't know what it will take to stop them!!! I seen a guy high on meth & it took tazering him 2 times before he went down so till u do what he does don't talk!!

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#13 Dec 9, 2012
Well Chris, you probably would have done the same thing Idiot, if you agree that this shooting was a good shooting, that only goes to show you're a freaking idiot just like the rest of these country bumkins around here!
If you have been trained in the art od the taser. It shouldn't take you twice to put a man down, but let's say it did, then why didn't Degase use his "taser" four times instead of a .9mm glock? Hell I have had men come at me before with weapons and I am a woman, I didn't have to shoot them 4 freaking times to put them down!
You think becasue you may think you like Degase as a person, that makes him innocent! You are full of shit just like he is!
Now as for my "liking" Degase-- I don't like any cops, Im not a cop lover and never have been! But if they are in control of the community I reside in, then I expect them, as everyone else in the community should expect them, to DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS. As for poor little fat boy Degase getting attacked by a pair of pliers, Whaaaa, he knew the job was dangerous when he took it, poor little fat cry baby!
Again, I am not a cop lover, I respect them until the given me a reason not to and Degase has given me plenty of reason to no longer respect his fake lying ass! He knows what he has done between me and him, believe me, he knows EXACTLY what he has done and it wasn't to me personally but to my granddaughter! He knows EXACTLY why I hate his guts now, but that isn't why I feel like I do about this shooting! The whole thing was uncalled for and if he had of gotten off his fake ass and arrested Prock months before this day, this whole killing would not have happened!
Remember one thing, an ounce of "pevention" can eliminate many problems. This fake ass idiot has "bankers hours" and instead of doing his job and going out wit his deputies and SERVING the warrants he is given, he sits on his ass and hopes they get stopped in a traffic stops so he can make an easy arrest and preferably the city or highway patrol will do it for him when they pull them over, and call in a check and find they have a warrant then they will deliver them to the jail to him while he sits on his ass and does NOTHING!
SuZ

United States

#14 Dec 9, 2012
chris wrote:
Pam i thought u were a big fan of Degases when did that change??? one day ur praisin him & the next ur cussin him! I would of done the same as him, when a person is under the influnce of drugs( as u know)u don't know what it will take to stop them!!! I seen a guy high on meth & it took tazering him 2 times before he went down so till u do what he does don't talk!!
Pammie is a psycho bitch who changes sides by the second
info

United States

#15 Dec 9, 2012
Pam is half Harris what do you expect
Sue

Lenexa, KS

#16 Dec 9, 2012
Pam Brayfield wrote:
Oh bullshit! Number one the guy had his pliers in his RIGHT hand, and he was LEFT-HANDED! Evidnetly he wasn't intending to hurt nobody with them. And it wasn't like he intentionally ran to the car and got the pliers to hurt Degase, he was already stranded in the road, trying to work on his car with the pliers! I don't give a damn what you say, it didn't take 4 shots from a .9mm glock to stop someone from advancing towards anubody with a pair of pliers in his hand, especially from a cop that has had loads of training on disarming suspects. The county has paid over and over for Degase to be trained as an officer, even back when he was a deputy for Koop!
It's really funny, they were able to disarm that Gunter boy and take him to jail, they didn't have to kill him did they? And he was definately armed with guns. lots of them!
In my opinion, Degase was pissed when Prock ran off from him and he took out his revenge on that man!
I only wish that when they have alleged witnesses like the 2 women who cliam to have "heard" Degase tell Phillips to get down, that they were made to take lie detectors testd before they are allowed to testify! If they were close enough to "hear" words being spoken, they were close enough to SEE what was going on!
There were NO witnesses and it took 30 minutes to get back up there, alot can go on in 30 minutes! Like placing the pliers in the WRONG hand!
So the general thought of these posts is that if you are a drug user and you get stranded on the road with car trouble, it's OKAY for the sheriff to shoot you 4 times and kill you! Sue hope none of you family ever gets hooked on drugs and has car trouble out in the middle of nowhere!
Degase's beef wasn't with Phillips, he was trying to arrest Prock! When she ran, he should have chased her and came back to Phillips once he had her in custody, after all, Phillips wasn't goping anywhere!
I heard the scanner that day and I heard several calls made to the dispatcher and the dispatcher to Degase, telling him what road she was walking down and what she was wearing, etc. These calls stated she was walking down county roads, not running through the woods.
Again, I still say this could all have been avoided if he would have went and arrested Prock, in town when he received many calls as to where she was IN TOWN, before this day! It is known for a fact that the office received a call just a few days before this that she was INSIDE McDonlds, eating, where Degase and a deputy along with city police for back-up could have cover both doors and either went inside and got her out of waited until she came out and arrested her!Hell, she was in town EVERYDAY, driving her own vehicle, so why wasn't she ever arrested then?
There's NO excuse for what happened that day, non whatsoever. If he had of shot that man in his knees and waited on his back up, he could have been arrested and held accountable for hindering Degase in his arrest, if that is truly what was going on!
They always say, you don't take a knife to a gun fight, well, in this case he shouldn't have taken a gun to a pliers fight in my opinion. Being shot once would have disabled or perhaps even killed him, him unless he was Superman, there was no need for him to be shot 4 times.
As usual you are 100 percent backwards. He shouldn't have taken a pair of pliers to a gunfight.

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#17 Dec 10, 2012
No your backwards, Degase, the TRAINED PROFESSIONAL shouldn't have taken a .9mm glock to a pliers fight! It's not over yet, the inquest may have cleared him but that wrongful death suit is going to get into his billfold along with his wife's and the county's! He'ee be on welfare and food stamps before long and then we will see if you bitch about your taxes supporting his ass!
James

Olathe, KS

#18 Dec 10, 2012
Pam Brayfield wrote:
No your backwards, Degase, the TRAINED PROFESSIONAL shouldn't have taken a .9mm glock to a pliers fight! It's not over yet, the inquest may have cleared him but that wrongful death suit is going to get into his billfold along with his wife's and the county's! He'ee be on welfare and food stamps before long and then we will see if you bitch about your taxes supporting his ass!
You will probably be reading about it from your jail cell for what you have coming up for taking money from the elderly
June

Ballwin, MO

#19 Dec 10, 2012
Pam Brayfield wrote:
No your backwards, Degase, the TRAINED PROFESSIONAL shouldn't have taken a .9mm glock to a pliers fight! It's not over yet, the inquest may have cleared him but that wrongful death suit is going to get into his billfold along with his wife's and the county's! He'ee be on welfare and food stamps before long and then we will see if you bitch about your taxes supporting his ass!
Seems like a lot of people are sure jealous of his wife. I had a whole lot more have my tax money go because a sheriff defended himself than I had for upkeep of your worthless son in prison. Too bad Degase wasnt sheriff back then.

“Kirsten's MiMi”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#20 Dec 10, 2012
My son is definately not as worthless as you freak! Don't worry, Degase keeps going with his macho, wild west show here and he will be there with my son!

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