DCAA serving Tyler Co Speedway

DCAA serving Tyler Co Speedway

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TAXPAYING citizen

Bridgeport, WV

#1 Apr 2, 2012
Guess providing the BEST EMS service for the Citizens of DODDRIDGE COUNTY extends to the Tyler County Speedway!!!! OUR TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK!
Wolfpack

West Union, WV

#2 Apr 2, 2012
Why was DCAA there? Mutual aid or something?
TAXPAYING citizen

Bridgeport, WV

#3 Apr 2, 2012
They were the Ambulance Service that was paid to be there in case of an accident --- I believe that the locals had been paid in the past to do this!!!
(Wonder if they got permission from the Tyler Co Commission to provide paid service in Tyler Co?)

YES good ole DODDRIDGE TAXES AT WORK!
TAXPAYING citizen

Fairmont, WV

#4 Apr 2, 2012
That's the use of OUR UNIT --- ALL of the SUPPLIES -- Fuel ---$$ for PAYROLL AND BENEFITS X 2 COUNTY EMPLOYEES (at least)--- for an OUT OF COUNTY EVENT!

While our AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM's BUDGET REQUEST to the CC was cut in HALF -----
Race Car Driver

Mcmechen, WV

#5 Apr 2, 2012
TAXPAYING citizen wrote:
That's the use of OUR UNIT --- ALL of the SUPPLIES -- Fuel ---$$ for PAYROLL AND BENEFITS X 2 COUNTY EMPLOYEES (at least)--- for an OUT OF COUNTY EVENT!
While our AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM's BUDGET REQUEST to the CC was cut in HALF -----
If you do not what you are talking about and lack the facts, you would be better of keeping your opinions to yourself. Would you be upset if this was DCEMS doing this?.
TAXPAYING citizen

Clarksburg, WV

#6 Apr 2, 2012
No I would NOT be upset -- DCEMS recieves NO TAX DOLLARS from this county and is a PRIVATE NON PROFIT organization --- The DCEMS is NOT and HAS NEVER bled this county dry!!!!(AND THAT IS FACT!)
ouch

United States

#7 Apr 2, 2012
Race Driver, they most likely wouldn't be upset as the DCEMS isn't paid with county dollars to take care of the county. You do remember this don't you!!!
In my opinion, it's just a matter of who you know.....Ha Ha Ha or who's butt you kiss. Plus, can the aa make it without going out of county? Hmmmmmmmm
Race Car Driver

Mcmechen, WV

#8 Apr 2, 2012
ouch wrote:
Race Driver, they most likely wouldn't be upset as the DCEMS isn't paid with county dollars to take care of the county. You do remember this don't you!!!
In my opinion, it's just a matter of who you know.....Ha Ha Ha or who's butt you kiss. Plus, can the aa make it without going out of county? Hmmmmmmmm
I do not believe they can, but they are smart enough to know that, so they are seeking profit making venues outside of the county in order to return more money to the county coffers and at the same time provide the county with 24 hour service with paramedics and EMT's. Any ambulance service must do transports and other things to be financially viable. Do you really think that they would be doing this if it was not making a profit? Get real.
My3CentsWorth

Columbus, OH

#9 Apr 2, 2012
Race Car Driver wrote:
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I do not believe they can, but they are smart enough to know that, so they are seeking profit making venues outside of the county in order to return more money to the county coffers and at the same time provide the county with 24 hour service with paramedics and EMT's. Any ambulance service must do transports and other things to be financially viable. Do you really think that they would be doing this if it was not making a profit? Get real.
Considering DCAA cannot determine their actual costs, I believe they do not have the slightest idea if they are making a profit or not. "...but they are smart enough" I believe you are making a major assumption in making that statement!
TAXPAYING citizen

Clarksburg, WV

#10 Apr 2, 2012
In looking at their budget and adding in the payment from the County Commission ---- They aren't making a PROFIT --- and why should they??? They were NOT set up to be a PROFIT MAKING ORGANIZATION!!!! They are COUNTY EMPLOYEES PAID TO SERVE THE DODDRIDGE COUNTY CITIZENS!

Another point here --- WHO is covering the RISK/LIABILITY for the DCAA????

The Commissioners FORCED the DCEMS to give back their liscense plates because they SUPPOSEDLY placed the County Commission in too much liability -- With every call that is taken -- every time a DCAA UNIT rolls -- the RISK of LIABILITY to the COUNTY gets larger and larger --- So when they are providng transport services --- dervices at venues OUR COUNTY FACES LIABILITY -- not a non profit with limited resources --- OUR COUNTY ---- Which costs us even MORE in TAX $$$ and could potentially bankrupt the county for years to come!!!

IS THIS what our TAX DOLLARS are to be used for?????
Race Car Driver

Mcmechen, WV

#11 Apr 2, 2012
TAXPAYING citizen wrote:
In looking at their budget and adding in the payment from the County Commission ---- They aren't making a PROFIT --- and why should they??? They were NOT set up to be a PROFIT MAKING ORGANIZATION!!!! They are COUNTY EMPLOYEES PAID TO SERVE THE DODDRIDGE COUNTY CITIZENS!
Another point here --- WHO is covering the RISK/LIABILITY for the DCAA????
The Commissioners FORCED the DCEMS to give back their liscense plates because they SUPPOSEDLY placed the County Commission in too much liability -- With every call that is taken -- every time a DCAA UNIT rolls -- the RISK of LIABILITY to the COUNTY gets larger and larger --- So when they are providng transport services --- dervices at venues OUR COUNTY FACES LIABILITY -- not a non profit with limited resources --- OUR COUNTY ---- Which costs us even MORE in TAX $$$ and could potentially bankrupt the county for years to come!!!
IS THIS what our TAX DOLLARS are to be used for?????
It is hard to reason with an idiot
TAXPAYING citizen

Clarksburg, WV

#12 Apr 2, 2012
There isn't any room for REASONING here --- The DCAA was bought an paid for by DODDRIDGE COUNTY TAX DOLLARS -- This organization was NOT set up to make transport runs or to work at venues out of the county --- They are draining our county dry while expecting our other not for profits in the county to do without!

Maybe it's time for THEM to do without!
Quiet Observer

United States

#13 Apr 2, 2012
Race Car Driver wrote:
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If you do not what you are talking about and lack the facts, you would be better of keeping your opinions to yourself. Would you be upset if this was DCEMS doing this?.
I'd like to answer that question for you, Race Car Driver....

HELL no, I wouldn't be upset if DCEMS ...a PRIVATE ENTITY...(not funded by my tax dollars) were out of the county copping a transport or on duty at a motor event or other public gathering.

THAT buddy, is the difference!!!! You just don't get it do you? We citizens are paying BIG bucks from our wallets for DCAA to serve OTHER counties. Helllooooooooo what's wrong with this picture??? That wasn't why they were created. They don't need 4 ambulances and 30 employees and $600,000 or more of tax money from us each year.....OMG !!!

and average of 44 calls from 911 a month!!! Good management of the county would at least dictate that we keep 2 squad vehicles....(not 4) and in the HIGHLY UNLIKELY EVENT that both ambulances were on an IN COUNTY run for an IN COUNTY citizen, and a 3rd one were to come in at the exact same time.... surely our 5 VFDs with EMTS on staff and the PRIVATE DCEMS that we get at no cost to the taxpayers and who have 11 vehicles of their own and several paramedics on staff, might just pick up the extra call if the astronomical odds that 3 at once would ever come in at the exact same time.

And, we would save the county several hundred thousand dollars in tax dollars paid to DCAA and maybe some of these other county orgs would maybe manage to get a dime or two from the county instead of being cut off from their previous funding.
Hopefully Responsible

West Union, WV

#14 Apr 2, 2012
As a tax payer I am very concerned about the risk the DCAA is putting everyone of us in when they take jobs that are not for their stated purpose of providing the best possible care for those of us in Doddridge. What kind of insurance do they have? Since everything they earn/own really belongs to the people of Doddridge - which account is the insurance being paid from. It does appear that there are few on the DCAA BOD who have much in the way of math skills. Plus we all know what the road to hell is paved with.
lemon

United States

#15 Apr 2, 2012
in my opinion
i cant believe jerry and shirley are stupid enough to openly allow doddridge county employees to openly be on doddridge county payroll in a non emergency situation
just my opinion
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Barbara Knight

United States

#16 Apr 2, 2012
Bottom line - DCES was NOT ASKED to do the Tyler Co Speedway and DCAA was. Not one Doddridge call has been missed while DCAA was adding revenue by running transports. Tyler Co Speedway is being served with DCAA volunteers or part-time employees. Transports are a normal part of business even with Ambulance Authorities.
My3CentsWorth

Columbus, OH

#17 Apr 2, 2012
Barbara,

The fact remains, you have not addressed liability, regardless if the Tyler Co Speedway is being served with DCAA volunteers or part-time employees. In so much as "part-time" employees are on duty, there is a cost factor involved with the service. What consideration has been taken for Workers Compensation or a possible lawsuit if an employee were injured while at the speedway? Since YOU have "a BS in Accounting and Management, and managed three medical offices in Doddridge and Ritchie counties for over sixteen years*" you must admit there is an expense associated with their presence outside of Doddridge County.

What you seem to fail to comprehend is, there is an extra cost / burden to the taxpayers by having such a large staff and extra vehicles. If DCAA was only concerned with providing the best service for Doddridge County, it would provide ample staffing for the residents of the county and not be forced to seek work outside of the county.

Since you have taken the time to respond to this posting, I challenge you, here and now, to post what the TOTAL Costs are to the county in salaries, benefits, taxes and any other remuneration, for the DCAA staff in its entirety. With your educational and professional background, I would expect you to have an understanding of cost analysis related to employees. However, you seem to refuse to provide the simple numbers, discharging your responsibility in a manner of "they are county paid employees", thus passing the buck.

It is a shame that one organization, created to feed the ego of one person, has taken the persona of the Greek Mythological serpent Learnaean Hydra. Everything was started with one ego and once that head was cut off, the multiple heads of the DCAA BOD have grown. The BOD is responsible for their own negative portrayal, with their sense of grandeur, the lack of transparency and poorly written letters to the editor, as well as other priceless quotes. When you finally realize the county is going bankrupt because of the DCAA, one can only hope there are not too many heads to slay and the county will recover from this fiasco.

I pray that the BOD has Directors Insurance, providing coverage if and when civil and criminal charges are pressed for the blatant fiscal malfeasance.

* doddridgeambulanceauthority.org
Joe Q Public

Fairmont, WV

#18 Apr 3, 2012
And By the way Barbara, DCEMS was offered it first, but they figured it wasn't worth the money.
TAXPAYING citizen

Fairmont, WV

#19 Apr 3, 2012
Volunteers or PART TIME EMPLOYEES --- Well, that answers that question --

But it still doesn't answer what the total costs are -- fuel, supplies INSURANCE, wear and tear ---

The RISK of LIABILITY --

Knowing that the DCEMS turned it down and evidently the LOCAL AMBULANCE SERVICES turned them down says a WHOLE LOT to me ----

And BABS --- you talk about bringing in addtitional revenue but don't tell us what the additional costs are to do and the County doesn't benefit from the additional revenues -- all the county recieves is a higher payroll and benefit bill with MORE LIABILITY ----

And one other thing -- Ambulance Autorities in other counties deal with EmERGENCY RUNS --- The Squads themselves deal with the transports --- Because in MOST counties the AA's provide OVERSIGHT and FUNDING ---- not Service!
Joe Q Public

Fairmont, WV

#20 Apr 3, 2012
That will put a lot of abuse on the units, as well as trash one pretty quick with all the dirt and mud. I have been at the Tyler County Speedway and helped the crews from Tyler in the past and I have seen first hand that it does put alot of dirt and mud in and on the units. Wonder why Tyler quit doing it?

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