Antero blows out aquifer in Harrison County 6-6-12

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get outta Dodge --ridge

United States

#1 Jun 6, 2012
Just heard on the radio news. Antero had a major mishap in Harrison County today while drilling. News broadcast said it was in the Sardis area. They blew out an aquifer, and geisers of water were blowing up out of the ground everywhere and flooded at least one house. DEP jumping into spin mode as usual. Said it was nothing serious, not fracking fluid, and just some small bit of nusiance. Well tell that to the people whose house was flooded out by gushing water. And if it wasn't fracking, then why did the news say that it was hhigh pressurized water being applied? do they do that when drilling before they frack? Better look carefully into this one because antero and the dep are in bed together if you ask me. open your eyes people cause this driller is all over doddridge now
APPLE BUTTER

Pennsboro, WV

#2 Jun 6, 2012
YES we saw it on the 5PM news, just cant wait for our well to become old faithful ?? mixed with what ever in the up comming furture !!
ROb

United States

#3 Jun 6, 2012
I have been told that some working for the DEP in this area are from PA. They are coming from PA to test water in WV , water near well sites. I personally would prefer a WV company, WV workers and WV inspectors.
get outta Dodge --ridge

United States

#4 Jun 6, 2012
ROb wrote:
I have been told that some working for the DEP in this area are from PA. They are coming from PA to test water in WV , water near well sites. I personally would prefer a WV company, WV workers and WV inspectors.
ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!! lol I prefer ANY research on the drillers to be done by OUT-OF-STATE people and universities!!!

WV DEP -in my humble opinion- for the most part, is comprised of people in bed with the drillers. And the local water testing labs all do A LOT of business with the drillers. And the WVU is heavily funded by the drilling industry-- so many of there faculty researcher (who are genuinely concerned about the health and water quality risks of fracking) have to toe the mark, because the industry "owns" WVU. And the WV O&G inspectors are golfing buddies and lunch partners with these drilling company managers!

LOL - boy are you misguided! The best we can hope for is to get the attention of environmental activists and orgs who operate on a national level and ask for their help. They aren't already bought by the industry.
Dead Serious

Weston, WV

#5 Jun 6, 2012
WV needs to get some DEP INSPECTORS --- I understand the drillers were trying to clear the water out of the drill hole so they forced air down it -- which blew back through the seam of water and forced the water up through the water wells ---(NOTE: CITY WATER IN THE AREA --- WELLS NOT BEING USED)
Now,-- WV law requires that the wells be cased past the water seam -- so ---- WHERE WAS THE CASING and WHERE WAS THE INSPECTOR WHO IS TO MAKE SURE THE CASING WAS IN PLACE???????

(You know, I am beginning to believe that the O & G people just need to give up -- they continually give crap like this to their opposition to add fuel to the fire and make themselves look stupid!)
lemon

Clarksburg, WV

#7 Jun 7, 2012
ROb wrote:
I have been told that some working for the DEP in this area are from PA. They are coming from PA to test water in WV , water near well sites. I personally would prefer a WV company, WV workers and WV inspectors.
you had better get water tested by the county health dept before drillers move in
from personal experience when the gas co test your well it will come back contaminated before they even start drilling in area
the health dept is much more accurate
beth

United States

#8 Jun 7, 2012
BUT, the Health Dept. can't check for fracking chemicals because these companies don't have to tell us WHAT they are using! You have to test for heavy metals and most labs don't do that. And, the cost of these tests are out of reach for most of our residents. The oil & gas folks are supposed to test water near drilling sites, but then they won't give you the test results, saying THEY own them since THEY paid for them. It's legal murder for the most part
Citizen

Barnesville, OH

#10 Jun 7, 2012
A excerpt from an article link I have-- don't know the status of this case, but we need to follow it closely. There is growing momentum for landowners to organize themselves for a class action suit against the WV DEP and Antero. If WV DEP is supposed to protect the citizens and environment, yet these is evidence of them "coddling" the drillers when they know they are irresponsible (like Antero, for example ) then this is something that should be considered as a course of action against them.

We should have recourse when the WV DEP makes a decision (to give a permit to a site and driller which is highly likely to harm us) and when they do give permit, we should have chance for a hearing so that we can have "out day in court" so to speak. Build a case for going after the WV DEP in addition to the driller, especially when the driller is a rogue and has blatant disregard for the law base on their previous performance at other well sites! Go for it!

Read below this excerpt about what I believe is still a pending lawsuit for a Doddridge man.
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Doddridge County man claims that state regulators didnít do enough to protect his land or the environment when they issued a permit to drill a Marcellus Shale well on his property. At issue in the case is whether a surface owner has the constitutional due process right to a hearing before the Department of Environmental Protectionís Office of Oil and Gas, and whether there should, similarly, be a right to appeal the DEPís decision to Circuit Court when they issue a permit to drill a well on the surface ownerís land.
APPLE BUTTER

Pennsboro, WV

#11 Jun 7, 2012
The title of this site is 6-6-12 , Thats to close to 666 and the anti-christ numbers ! maybe its a hidden code ????????? for the gas companys. Anyone got any HOLY Water remember the witch in the Wizaed of OZ !!
Marcellus Researcher

Barnesville, OH

#12 Jun 8, 2012
In addition to the Antero mishap of drilling into the aquifer, which the DEP severely diminished in their spin (it is not by the way...I have scientists that I send all these events to for feedback)....there was also another incident in that drilling area that happened the day before.

On Tues. of this week, a resident on Crooked Run Road in Wilsonberg reported a TOTAL fish kill in their pond. All fish, frogs, insects, etc. ALL dead and floating on the pond. This person called me to tell me about it. Landowner detected a petroleum smell in the air while inspecting the pond. Also took samples of the dead fish floating on top, as well as dead frogs, dragon flies,etc. floating in the water.(Some of the fish had black stuff on their gills) So landowner took water samples and dead fish, frog, bug, samples to freeze even though DEP had come out to sample the water at around 10:30 pm that evening.

The next day, Wednesday, I think, 4 guys from Antero show up (I was given their names from landowner.) also 2 people from Ryan Environmental. According to the landowner, the first thing they tried to do was say it was caused by a "pond turnover" and it had nothing to do with them.

A "pond turnover" is something than can happen on occasion and simply means the mixing of stagnant or stratified water in the pond. Can create a fish kill situation, but not usually something of this magnitude with ALL life in the pond wiped out.

Normally there are 3 layers in a pond (epilimnion,thermocline, and hypolimnion) and fish tend to dwell in the upper levels where there is light and oxygen, the middle range a mix and the bottom layer is the sediment, decaying dead fish and plants that sink to the bottom, etc. and fish don't dwell there as it has little oxygen, colder water, and different bacteria.

However, sudden temp changes can bring on a "turnover" ..usually is an autumn occurance and the waters are mixed and can cause a fish kill. However, the problem with this theory of the driller folks who came out, is that this person's pond is VERY shallow...only about 4 ft deep and pond turnovers are consistent with much, deeper waters such as in lakes.

Plus, the homeowner had observed that one side of the pond has a stream current that feeds it. But the other side of the pond has always been still. But when this fish kill was discovered, there was the observation that the other side of the pond has something bubbling in the water which had never been over on the still area of the pond.

While they were there checking things out, the driller casually asked the homeowner if they had taken any samples of their own or saved dead fish. Ha! Sure did! Frozen for lab analysis later if the landowner doesn't get answers from the DEP and driller. They even tried to say it might be the septic system causing it.

This pond had never done this in the 40 years since it was dug. And landowner also told me that family cat (outdoor cat) was throwing up several times that day, lethargic, and it usually drinks from stream or pond.

Now this happened in the same vicinity of the aquifer blow out. All that pressure supposedly needing a place to escape from underground so here we have old well geysers on people's lawn and then this pond kill? They even admitted to the landowner that a complete kill like this was something they' ve never seen in a "pond turnover" situation. Something killed the fish and everything else in the pond enormously fast!

This one wasn't on the news (at least not yet) so will be interesting to get the follow-up on this one. One of my researchers told me he'd like to get funding to support a small mobile lab that can come to the scene when landowner's have strange issues such as these around drilled areas. What a cool idea. Especially when we get reports of incidents of fracking fluid sprayed on roads for dust control!
just a dude passing by

United States

#13 Jun 9, 2012
I know for a fact that the o&g companies are dumping chemicals directly into your creeks and ponds. Been told that by their own workers. Also know for a fact that almost none of the residents in Doddridge are willing to do anything about the various affronts committed by the o&g companies other than whine. I get the former (big industry always looks to cut corners and could give a rats ass about local populations), but I don't get the latter. If someone tried to do that to my land it would get messy real fast.
Marcellus Researcher

Barnesville, OH

#14 Jun 9, 2012
just a dude passing by wrote:
I know for a fact that the o&g companies are dumping chemicals directly into your creeks and ponds. Been told that by their own workers. Also know for a fact that almost none of the residents in Doddridge are willing to do anything about the various affronts committed by the o&g companies other than whine. I get the former (big industry always looks to cut corners and could give a rats ass about local populations), but I don't get the latter. If someone tried to do that to my land it would get messy real fast.
Sad thing is that the workers you speak of who tell you they dump these chemicals in our creeks and ponds, are also going to be the finding themselves getting cancer of various kinds a few years down the road. Most of these workers are young men in their 20's and 30's. Given the research that I've seen coming from heavily drilled PA, already they are observing an extremely sudden high increase of cancer,especially thyroid (indicative to constant mild radiation poisoning) and also lung cancer/respiratory disease from the silica dust coming from the very fine sand they use in the fracking. Read a research article that stated that even when workers wear the respirator masks when working around it, what still seeps into the protective gear is many times higher than the safe breathing level of the stuff. I suspect a large percentage of these young workers won't make their 50th birthday given what they are being exposed to now.

And, have been told that the industry maintains a clinic to treat workers for their symptoms and that the workers MUST only go to certain doctors and also sign a non-disclosure statement while being treated for work related illness. Yup the industry knows what they do to their workers.

Sooner or later these workers will be willing to secretly talk to some of those researchers and health professionals who are trying to protect them. And when they do, the bottom will start to fall out for the industry.

And contraty to what you say that Doddridge people are too complacent and only whine about what's being done to them, don't sell us short.

We are doing a lot more than you think, and are getting the attention of some big heavy hitting enviro law firms who are talking about coming here to "set up shop" and start the ball rolling for some serious class action suits against an out of control industry.
APPLE BUTTER

Pennsboro, WV

#15 Jun 9, 2012
Where have all the fish gone from the Middle Island Creek ?? And is it just me when I see and oliy film on top of this once great creek ? IT wont be long till the Ducks start to Glow at night ! Here is whats funny,they can kill us off and it will take years to do something about it.But let a few DUCKS get sick and GOD forbid Congress will be all over it by Morning ?? It just makes one smile on how we deal with things . OH well, someday we will all be in the same hospital ward and we can talk about it as we die off each day one at a TIME , But first we will live long enought to BURY our KIDS !!
Quiet Observer

Barnesville, OH

#16 Jun 9, 2012
APPLE BUTTER wrote:
Where have all the fish gone from the Middle Island Creek ?? And is it just me when I see and oliy film on top of this once great creek ? IT wont be long till the Ducks start to Glow at night ! Here is whats funny,they can kill us off and it will take years to do something about it.But let a few DUCKS get sick and GOD forbid Congress will be all over it by Morning ??
Ha! you laugh about how congress would jump all over it if some ducks were getting poisoned instead of people. Well you know sometimes the more radical enviro activist groups are the ones that protect animals not people.

So maybe we should be sending our stories to groups like PETA and Animal Liberation Front (whoa, check them out on their site...that's some serious activism sh*t) but maybe by way of enticing their efforts to protect WV wildlife from fracking fluid, the human side will benefit as well! LOL
just a dude passing by

Coronado, CA

#17 Jun 10, 2012
Saddest thing is a couple of those workers are doddridge residents doing it to their own people and land. Bad enough when carpetbaggers do it, but damn, your own people doing it to you. Sad.
just a dude passing by

Coronado, CA

#18 Jun 10, 2012
That would be great if some big time law firms took an interest in doddridge. Lord knows the county could use the help and there doesn't seem to be any competent attorneys willing to take on these companies (competent attorneys in doddridge that is).
Marcellus Researcher

Barnesville, OH

#19 Jun 10, 2012
just a dude passing by wrote:
That would be great if some big time law firms took an interest in doddridge. Lord knows the county could use the help and there doesn't seem to be any competent attorneys willing to take on these companies (competent attorneys in doddridge that is).
It's not so much that we don't have any competent attorneys interested in seeing landowner rights protected. The main problem is that the big O&G companies locked up all the big law firms (like Steptoe and Johnson) and others before they arrived here to drill on us.

By the way, for folks who don't know it...the little green house at the end of Main Street in West Union, that used to be the thrift store was recently sold to someone who now rents it out to Steptoe and Johnson law firm. Notice how they don't bother to hang their shingle out on the door? All the curtains kept close. They are these trying to remain low key and it is a place for all the abstractors that clog our courthouse every day to have a place to go right down the block to turn in all their lease and mineral searches they do so as to help the drillers know who to target next. No wonder this firm appears to not want the community to know they have a field office right here in town! LOL

AS far as those attorneys in the area (who are small one or two person offices)..... there are several I have spoken with in several counties. They want to help landowners by taking on these huge drilling company attorneys. But to do so would tie up their practices for years and they don't have those kind of resources to expend. And the drillers know it. BUT...on an encouraging note....several of them have told me they would be more than willing to be the "vessel" of the huge out-of-state environmental law firms that are chomping at the bit to get into WV and set up shop. That way, these big enviro law firms (that love class action suits) could get their foot in the door of WV, by utlizing these small local attorneys to do the filing of the legal briefs and suits for them in the WV court system, since they aren't licensed for law in this state. So they can use our attorneys as the front man. So it's a comin' folks.

We have to do something to protect our quality of life that these drilling companies are taking away when they trash the surface owners' properties and devalue their homes, contaminate their water, etc. I told a couple of these huge enviro law firms that I had made contact with already, that I could give them at least a hundred landowners on a silver platter who have serious issues over these old (pre-1960) leases and these leases need to be tested in court, as to what was the "contemplation of the parties" as when grandpappy signed a lease at a time when drilling was done by horse drawn wagon!!!!!
Maria

United States

#20 Jun 11, 2012
I have been reading the different sites regarding the Marcellus drilling. I have a question, I have been trying to research something for a relative and having no luck. I have read on the different forums that former employees have posted and those that are very knowledgeable about drilling and fracing are posting. I have a relative that lives near a well site, downwind. For the past two weeks many of the trees in his area are covered with a sticky subtance like glue. It you touch the leaves they stick to your hand. Does anyone know if this is a result of the compressor stations? Any info will be greatly appreciated.

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