16-year-old shot and killed in Crawford, Neb.

There are 20 comments on the Oct 3, 2007, Omaha World-Herald story titled 16-year-old shot and killed in Crawford, Neb.. In it, Omaha World-Herald reports that:

“Everybody's pretty curious about what's going on”

" A 16-year-old boy was shot and killed inside an abandoned tavern in Crawford, Neb., Wednesday morning, although it wasn't immediately clear whether the shooting was self-inflicted or involved law enforcement ... via Omaha World-Herald

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sisteroflisa

AOL

#1 Oct 4, 2007
My prayers go out to Patty and her family. I hope you nail this cops ass to the wall.
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#2 Oct 4, 2007
Why does the cop need his ass nailed to the wall?
JessesFriend

Shaver Lake, CA

#3 Oct 4, 2007
The man responsible for this unbelievable tragedy needs to be held completely accountable!
Pulling that trigger was NOT the answer!
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#4 Oct 4, 2007
JessesFriend- Were you in the room where this occured? How do you know pulling that trigger was NOT the answer? What factual basis do you have for that statement?
anonamous

Tucson, AZ

#5 Oct 5, 2007
Are you stupid hellothere??? He was only 16 thats f***ed up. He didnt deserve to die he was just a young man and it is so totally wrong. Who ever shot him i hope get his ass nail to the wall and shot and suffer just like jess did. My prayers out to jesse and his family!
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#6 Oct 5, 2007
Why am a stupid? If a person points a gun at a cop, they hold a death wish, no matter how old they are. What were the cops supposed to do? Ask him not to shoot them and hope it works? My God, it is a tragedy, but it certainly isn't the fault of the cops. Cops are trained and expected to stop threats. Being confronted by someone with a gun who broke into a bar is a threat. They have a split second to decide, they can't sit there and wonder how old the guy is, if he is a nice guy, will he change his mind, and on and on.

I'm sorry this young man had to die, but to blame the cops is asinine--unless it comes out that the kid was unarmed or something, but they already said he had a gun. Don't you think the cops are suffering too? They don't exactly like shooting people, especially in a small town like that.

Since: Apr 07

United States

#7 Oct 5, 2007
hellothere, I don't know if you are stupid, or just more knowledgable than the rest of us. I would have to assume your were there??? I never once saw in the paper that Jesse pointed a gun at anyone. Please let me have that link, I would love to read it. The bar was surrounded & no way out. And the town knew he had been (basically) living in the abandoned bar for some time. Yes, he was a troubled kid, but does that mean LE can't try to talk him into coming out?? As far as him being unarmed or not.....if he didn't point a gun or discharge a firearm......ever heard of throw downs?? The cop has been noted as trigger happy, shooting residents pets. And considering the fact, the kid was inside & they were out & in control, why couldn't they wait for the State? Standing up for the cops is also asinine w/out the full story. Would love to know how it is that you know he pointed a gun????
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#8 Oct 5, 2007
Sorry, no link, just repeated what was reported on KNEB (I don't live in Omaha despite what this site thinks).

OK, since you must have been there, why did the cops go in the bar in the first place? Did they know who they were dealing with? Have you ever walked into a darkened room and been confronted with someone with a gun? Would you care how old they were?

I'll back the cops until shown otherwise that they did something wrong. A "throw down" in Crawford, Nebraska? You've watched too many old cop shows.

My point is that everyone wants to nail the cop, nail the cop, when nobody except the cops and God knows what really happened in there. Again, I'm inclined to believe the cops until proven otherwise. Even if you think the small town cops are a bunch of Barney Fifes, there was a state cop there--even if he is a game warden first, he is still a state cop.

The only thing that worries me is how tight-lipped the CA is. Is that because he doesn't know how to deal with the media, or is trying to hide something?

Since: Apr 07

United States

#9 Oct 6, 2007
I'm not siding w/the cops nor w/Jesse. And you brought up a very valid question (WHY DID the cops go in the bar in the first place?) I think this could have been handled completely different. They could have waited for the State Patrol, etc. What happened to tear gas, etc.
And as far as watching too many old cop shows. Throw downs continue to happen today. I'm not saying that is the case, just pointing out that everyone is jumping to fast conclusions & taking sides. And "in Crawford, Nebraska?" Rick is not from Crawford, hmmmm?
And I liked the "BRITTON WAS SHOT AND KILLED AFTER CRAWFORD POLICE AND A STATE GAME AND PARKS OFFICER RESPONDED TO REPORTS OF A BURGLARY IN THE BUILDING." A burglary of an abandoned bar??
As to pointing a gun, there were only 3 people in the building & one is dead. It was broad daylight & I don't see the urgency to enter a building (especially if they know he might be armed). Businesses were never closed or evacuated, so would seem they didn't view him as a danger. I realize the status of a game warden & I also know he was a Sheriff prior to being a game warden. Although I have not found mention to the fact that Kling was a warden, but rather an employ for the Games & Park. And graduating from Law Enforcement Training only 4 years ago, doesn't scream "experience".
The CA has to be tight-lipped until the investigation & the facts are in. Why I can't believe anyone could report Jesse pointed a gun. That info could have only came from people in the building. And they should not be talking to anyone until the grand jury & special prosecutor have been appointed. But this wouldn't be the first time Rick has went against the rules.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php...
There are always 2 sides to a story & some times more. Either way it is tragic that a 16 year old is dead.(Just) my opinion, he could have been talked out, smoked out etc. had people not been in such a hurry. What was the rush? Or did someone have to be silenced.
And I don't live in Lincoln, I've even been displayed as being from Hebron NE. It has something to do w/the servers at the time of posting.
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#10 Oct 6, 2007
Taz-

I had a very well thought-out response posted to you this morning, and it has apparently been removed by someone. Not sure why as it was politer than most, profane-free, and I differentiated between fact and option, but I'm not going to bother to try again.

Hopefully the grand jury investigation will shed some light on the whole situation. In the mean time, I hope people can allow common sense and the legal system to prevail, other than emotions and mob mentality.

Since: Apr 07

United States

#11 Oct 7, 2007
hellothere, you are not the only one who has probs losing posts. Here is what I do....Put your post to word or note pad & then do a copy/paste. That way if if doesn't take, no need to redo it. I think we time out. I have tried to copy from what I had on actual post, but for some reason that can't be done. Good luck w/that issue.
http://www.starherald.com/site/news.cfm...
The above link has 2 articles worth reading.
And I'm w/Bill, they could have called for a trained negotiator; it was daylight & the building surrounded. Supposedly Jesse asked to talk to his mother, why wasn't she called? And worse yet, Patty has to find out from a co-worker that her son is dead? It's on the news before she knows of it. And why has she not been allowed to see her son's body?
Bill is a long time school teacher, so I think he has some credits under his belt to understanding what is going on. And Dennis Lyons is a former probation officer. And I have been w/LE since '93. IMO there was no risk in daylight (looking through windows), the building was surrounded, time was on LE's side, school was under lock down & in "Crawford Nebraska" what other demanding issue did they have? Patty, negotiator or tear gas could have brought Jesse out, so every one could hear his side of the story.
I'm not attacking the cops (nor you), just saying I think the situation could/should have been handled differently.
Amber

United States

#12 Oct 7, 2007
How do you know pulling the trigger was the answer?
I think i've read every story since Jesses death and I never once read anything about him pointing the gun at the cops. Really, if you've ever met or seen Jesse he's only about 110 pds...how is a man trained to be able to handle men double if not triple the size of him going to be scared of Jesse?
Also, no one was called to help and get Jesse out of there...from what i understand the police went in there, shot Jesse, and walked out. Right now no one knows for sure what the circumstances to Jesses death were but all I know is if it went down like i've been reading I think there could have been better ways to handle the situation. My thoughts and prayers go out to Jesse and everyone who knew him. Yes, he was troubled at times, but many teens go through that at this time of their lives. It's part of growing up, but it shouldn't mean you should be killed for it.
But just to set the record straight for everyone who thought Jesse was a bad kid and things happen to him the way they did because of that your totally wrong! Jesse was a great person and a great friend...he didn't deserve to go this way.
personal

United States

#13 Oct 7, 2007
hellothere wrote:
Why am a stupid? If a person points a gun at a cop, they hold a death wish, no matter how old they are. What were the cops supposed to do? Ask him not to shoot them and hope it works? My God, it is a tragedy, but it certainly isn't the fault of the cops. Cops are trained and expected to stop threats. Being confronted by someone with a gun who broke into a bar is a threat. They have a split second to decide, they can't sit there and wonder how old the guy is, if he is a nice guy, will he change his mind, and on and on.
I'm sorry this young man had to die, but to blame the cops is asinine--unless it comes out that the kid was unarmed or something, but they already said he had a gun. Don't you think the cops are suffering too? They don't exactly like shooting people, especially in a small town like that.
I don't think you have room to make any comments. Unless you haved lived in this town and know how corrupt the local cops are (which I do I lived their my whole life) dont say one word. If you can i would like you to show me an article where its says that he was holding the gun on the cops. O wait you can't their isnt one. For your infomation jesse was shot in the head at close range. So for now I think you should keep your mouth shut and mind your business!!!
personal

United States

#14 Oct 7, 2007
tazette wrote:
hellothere, I don't know if you are stupid, or just more knowledgable than the rest of us. I would have to assume your were there??? I never once saw in the paper that Jesse pointed a gun at anyone. Please let me have that link, I would love to read it. The bar was surrounded & no way out. And the town knew he had been (basically) living in the abandoned bar for some time. Yes, he was a troubled kid, but does that mean LE can't try to talk him into coming out?? As far as him being unarmed or not.....if he didn't point a gun or discharge a firearm......ever heard of throw downs?? The cop has been noted as trigger happy, shooting residents pets. And considering the fact, the kid was inside & they were out & in control, why couldn't they wait for the State? Standing up for the cops is also asinine w/out the full story. Would love to know how it is that you know he pointed a gun????
Thank you for saying what you did. He is very trigger happy. He took my aunts dos out of their pen and took them out to the country and shot them. Hes done it to several other pets too. It is a sad thing that happened I knew Jesse personallly. It is so sad that he had to die at such a young age.
personal

Powell, WY

#15 Oct 7, 2007
Such a sad story going on in Crawford, did a 16 year old really have to be killed? It's a small town and lots of rumors, but the people who live there know EXACTLY what kind of a man the Chief Thompson really is. Killing family pets and dumping them is really only the tip of the ice berg for this power happy cop. Hopefully the special prosecutors will look into his past and see his true 'self' and ask the mother about comments he even made to her about "next time she sees her son it will be in a cemetary"

Since: Apr 07

United States

#16 Oct 8, 2007
Again I'm not attacking hellothere, he/she has a right to an opinion.
I want people to realize there are bad apples in every group, be it black, white, green, yellow, kids or COPS. And the media has a great influence on how people interpet the situation. Speaking of the media, I was curious as to why so many links (concerning this shooting) have been pulled from the internet? No mention on Dan Kling anymore, & most articles say "game & parks official who has not been named". A play on words can make a big difference in how one reacts.(Like the "OFF-DUTY Wis. Deputy Sheriff Kills 6". LE may be off the clock, but are really never off-duty. Now I wonder how many people will stand behind the cop in this case?)
I'm concerned about the comment of Jesse being shot in the head at close range. Nothing has been made public on that. Last I knew Patty had not been allowed to view her son's body (which would lead people to that assumption.) So, does this have a factual basis?
Corruption in LE is not limited to any one town.
I no longer live in Crawford, but have deep roots there & visit often. I will not go into my phone conversations made to Crawford, as they are just opinions.
I feel that many decades ago there was a murder in Crawford by a police officer. Again, the mother & family was denied their right to view the body & it was a closed casket & they never did see the body. Had I been older or more knowledgable at the time, I would pushed the mother to fight for answers. Now nothing will be proved, as the cop is dead & only his family would suffer.
Sorry got off topic for a moment there. Has Spike been informed?
personal

Powell, WY

#17 Oct 8, 2007
Once again, rumors, where did it say Jessee was shot in the head at close range? There isn't any info. being released. But if that were the case, that right there should show the special investigators that Chief Thompson WASN'T willing to let Jessee walk out of that bldg. alive. Hopefully he and Kling got their stories straight on how a 110 lb. kid could cause such a threat to two grown men. Me and my families hearts go out to Jessee's family.
personal

United States

#18 Oct 8, 2007
tazette wrote:
Again I'm not attacking hellothere, he/she has a right to an opinion.
I want people to realize there are bad apples in every group, be it black, white, green, yellow, kids or COPS. And the media has a great influence on how people interpet the situation. Speaking of the media, I was curious as to why so many links (concerning this shooting) have been pulled from the internet? No mention on Dan Kling anymore, & most articles say "game & parks official who has not been named". A play on words can make a big difference in how one reacts.(Like the "OFF-DUTY Wis. Deputy Sheriff Kills 6". LE may be off the clock, but are really never off-duty. Now I wonder how many people will stand behind the cop in this case?)
I'm concerned about the comment of Jesse being shot in the head at close range. Nothing has been made public on that. Last I knew Patty had not been allowed to view her son's body (which would lead people to that assumption.) So, does this have a factual basis?
Corruption in LE is not limited to any one town.
I no longer live in Crawford, but have deep roots there & visit often. I will not go into my phone conversations made to Crawford, as they are just opinions.
I feel that many decades ago there was a murder in Crawford by a police officer. Again, the mother & family was denied their right to view the body & it was a closed casket & they never did see the body. Had I been older or more knowledgable at the time, I would pushed the mother to fight for answers. Now nothing will be proved, as the cop is dead & only his family would suffer.
Sorry got off topic for a moment there. Has Spike been informed?
It is an open casket because I know for a fact because i have a very personal relationship with the personal doing the funeral thats also why i know that he was shot in the head at close range
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#19 Oct 8, 2007
I want to go back to the idea that someone should have called in SWAT, used tear gas, a hostage negotiator, etc.

Has anyone considered the possibility that, like so much of the community, the officers didn't perceive Mr. Britton to be much of a threat, so they went in to talk to him, then things suddenly went south when a gun came into play? Once that guns shows up, it is too late to back out, call SWAT, use tear gas, a hostage negotiator, etc. The time for reaction is NOW and they had a split second to decide how to react. Was is the right reaction? I guess the grand jury will tell us that.

Taz, what media is disappearing? Obviously stories will cycle through, but what has been deliberately pulled?
hellothere

Omaha, NE

#20 Oct 8, 2007
Taz- The Star-Hearld still names the officers:

http://www.starherald.com/site/news.cfm...

(Enjoy their pop-up blocker-proof pop-up ads)

I never saw them named in the AP stories (OWH & LJS).

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