Frankfort wants golf cart rules befor...

Frankfort wants golf cart rules before problems arise

There are 29 comments on the Journal & Courier story from Jul 23, 2011, titled Frankfort wants golf cart rules before problems arise. In it, Journal & Courier reports that:

Frankfort officials are looking to regulate the use of golf carts on streets and alleys in the Clinton County city.

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Nit Picker

Frankfort, IN

#21 Jul 27, 2011
Mr What, please understand this. I do not need to make sense to you. I am just stating my opinion. I try and stay on the positive side, I dont see letting golf carts on the roadway as a problem, but an opportunity to share the road. I think YOU see everything as a problem, if you do not get your way. Dont be so controlling and negative, just state your opinion, and be happy that you live in a place where it is OK to do so. The vote on this topic is not taken on this gossip site. Its far better to show-up at the city meetings, stand-up, speak-up, then sit down and shut-up. Thats where it counts the most, not this gossip site.

Since: May 11

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#22 Jul 27, 2011
Nit Picker wrote:
Mr What, please understand this. I do not need to make sense to you. I am just stating my opinion. I try and stay on the positive side, I dont see letting golf carts on the roadway as a problem, but an opportunity to share the road. I think YOU see everything as a problem, if you do not get your way. Dont be so controlling and negative, just state your opinion, and be happy that you live in a place where it is OK to do so. The vote on this topic is not taken on this gossip site. Its far better to show-up at the city meetings, stand-up, speak-up, then sit down and shut-up. Thats where it counts the most, not this gossip site.
Thank you for being so eloquent with your response.
Rose

Carmel, IN

#23 Jul 27, 2011
I can't see how all of the items required to be on the golf cart to make them street ready could ever be enforced - some people will get by without having everything required and some will be picked up every time they leave home (neighbors reporting them for instance). Just another burden for our Police Force to have to take care of. Still doesn't make any sense to me - less Police Officers and more things added to their job.
Not Me Thanks

Indianapolis, IN

#24 Jul 27, 2011
I will predict this local ordinance will, if passed not last long. As soon as we see several serious injuries or worse, it will be repealled by city county on the advise of the residents they represent, the city legal consultant, and the good judgement of most city councilmen. I will explain why I make this prediction:

1. Today it is very common for city traffic to exceed the posted speed limit by 10 to 15 MPH, with relative impunity. Enforcement is sparse, at best. Enforcment is weak when it occurs (many people stopped are given verbal or written warnings, not actual tickets.
2. Today it is ver common for drivers to run thru stop signs. Not roling thru, mind you, running thru - I mean 10 MPH or more. Often one driver arriving at a 4 way stop has no intention of actually stopping and actualy tries to make it thru the intersection before the second vehicle.
3. On many side streets parked cars and trucks, including illegally parked commercial trucks will simply block the view of any golf cart. That slow moving vehile sign on the back, or, flashing lights, will be of no help.
4. Golf Carts will further confuse the 20% of Frankfort's Latino population. Most of these people are driving illegally either due to false identification, no liability insurance, unsafe vehicles, or operating while intoxicated.
5. The general lack of effective traffic enforcement and lieniency by our city police department means lack of enforcement for Golf Carts too. It will be commmonplace for drivers to be under the age of 18 because officers will not stop people just because they might be 17 etc. Seat belts will not be worn. Drivers and passingers will be thrown from the Golf Cart into traffic with serious injuries occuring.
If you question any of this, simply drive around the city, think about my comments, and observe what you see. Frankfort is dangerous enought as it is - this change will only make it much more so.
For these and other reasons this ordinance will reduce safety of the public streets for everyone.
devils advocate

Chicago, IL

#25 Jul 28, 2011
Not Me Thanks wrote:
I will predict this local ordinance will, if passed not last long. As soon as we see several serious injuries or worse, it will be repealled by city county on the advise of the residents they represent, the city legal consultant, and the good judgement of most city councilmen. I will explain why I make this prediction:
1. Today it is very common for city traffic to exceed the posted speed limit by 10 to 15 MPH, with relative impunity. Enforcement is sparse, at best. Enforcment is weak when it occurs (many people stopped are given verbal or written warnings, not actual tickets.
2. Today it is ver common for drivers to run thru stop signs. Not roling thru, mind you, running thru - I mean 10 MPH or more. Often one driver arriving at a 4 way stop has no intention of actually stopping and actualy tries to make it thru the intersection before the second vehicle.
3. On many side streets parked cars and trucks, including illegally parked commercial trucks will simply block the view of any golf cart. That slow moving vehile sign on the back, or, flashing lights, will be of no help.

4. Golf Carts will further confuse the 20% of Frankfort's Latino population. Most of these people are driving illegally either due to false identification, no liability insurance, unsafe vehicles, or operating while intoxicated.
5. The general lack of effective traffic enforcement and lieniency by our city police department means lack of enforcement for Golf Carts too. It will be commmonplace for drivers to be under the age of 18 because officers will not stop people just because they might be 17 etc. Seat belts will not be worn. Drivers and passingers will be thrown from the Golf Cart into traffic with serious injuries occuring.
If you question any of this, simply drive around the city, think about my comments, and observe what you see. Frankfort is dangerous enought as it is - this change will only make it much more so.
For these and other reasons this ordinance will reduce safety of the public streets for everyone.
semi-valid points but i don't hear anyone complaining about bicycles being on city streets with no operator age limit, signs/lights or helmet requirements.

Since: Jul 10

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#26 Jul 28, 2011
They'll need to add more parking spaces to "Smokeshop Row" on north main street. Golf Carts only.
What

United States

#27 Jul 28, 2011
Not Me Thanks wrote:
I will predict this local ordinance will, if passed not last long. As soon as we see several serious injuries or worse, it will be repealled by city county on the advise of the residents they represent, the city legal consultant, and the good judgement of most city councilmen. I will explain why I make this prediction:
1. Today it is very common for city traffic to exceed the posted speed limit by 10 to 15 MPH, with relative impunity. Enforcement is sparse, at best. Enforcment is weak when it occurs (many people stopped are given verbal or written warnings, not actual tickets.
2. Today it is ver common for drivers to run thru stop signs. Not roling thru, mind you, running thru - I mean 10 MPH or more. Often one driver arriving at a 4 way stop has no intention of actually stopping and actualy tries to make it thru the intersection before the second vehicle.
3. On many side streets parked cars and trucks, including illegally parked commercial trucks will simply block the view of any golf cart. That slow moving vehile sign on the back, or, flashing lights, will be of no help.
4. Golf Carts will further confuse the 20% of Frankfort's Latino population. Most of these people are driving illegally either due to false identification, no liability insurance, unsafe vehicles, or operating while intoxicated.
5. The general lack of effective traffic enforcement and lieniency by our city police department means lack of enforcement for Golf Carts too. It will be commmonplace for drivers to be under the age of 18 because officers will not stop people just because they might be 17 etc. Seat belts will not be worn. Drivers and passingers will be thrown from the Golf Cart into traffic with serious injuries occuring.
If you question any of this, simply drive around the city, think about my comments, and observe what you see. Frankfort is dangerous enought as it is - this change will only make it much more so.
For these and other reasons this ordinance will reduce safety of the public streets for everyone.
This town would be up in arms and in the Mayors office if the city police issued citations/tickets for every infraction. You should be somewhat happy they do have a bit of a heart. It could be bad if you really pissed them off. Keep in mind, 1 mph over the speed limit can constitute a ticket. That would be great, wouldn't it?
Personal Opinion

Chicago, IL

#28 Jul 28, 2011
What wrote:
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This town would be up in arms and in the Mayors office if the city police issued citations/tickets for every infraction.
This is exactly what they should be doing. Being 1 mph over the speed limit still could be questionable if it were to go to court. I would like to see those who roll through a stop sign get busted more often. Or what about people who park facing the opposite direction on the street? This happens all the time and I do believe your not suppose to do this.

As far as golf carts go. Are they going to be required to have insurance? What if someone on a golf cart runs into your car? I know if the illegals drive golf carts they won't have to worry about it since it is not a requirement for them.
Rose

Carmel, IN

#29 Jul 28, 2011
I don't see how a bicycle could be compared to a golf cart - not only in size - Possibility of multiple people in the cart - more distractions - etc. I can see it now - golf carts parked on the sidewalks beside a bicycle - NOT. I could however see a couple of friends meet on the square for supper and park a couple of golf carts in the same parking spot.

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