State police academy adds two adminis...

State police academy adds two administrators

There are 19 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Mar 2, 2010, titled State police academy adds two administrators. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Attorney General Richard Cordray has hired two high-level administrators as part of his plan to fix the state's police academy, sharply increasing administrative costs but bringing praise from police groups.

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Dean Wormer

Little Rock, AR

#1 Mar 2, 2010
Commandant Lassard and Captain Harris?
Tim T

Reynoldsburg, OH

#2 Mar 2, 2010
OPOTA has been for a good long time and will continue to be very "user un-friendly" for the forseeable future.

OPOTA has many many stupid rules. Do they realize their dumb Physical Fitness tests do not work? They make people pass them to graduate the academy but departments dont keep up with it. Dont pass the PT test? You start the academy all over. How dumb is that? The state test is geared toward an experienced or command officer with stupid scenarios. Each academy is about $5000.00. Dumb OPOTA.
DareN

Columbus, OH

#3 Mar 2, 2010
Both Fiatal and Walker have been working at the academy for almost a year. Why is Cordray just now announcing that he's hired them? Hey! Workers on furlough and wages frozen and they're making $100,000?? With more ADMINISTRATORS being considered?? The academy was, and is, just fine. Cordray should leave them alone.
HuberHoney

Mount Vernon, OH

#4 Mar 2, 2010
TimT is absolutely correct. It appears they want to keep adding "administrators" that simply sit around all day and think up new "standards" for law enforcement to obtain. The PT test is the BIGGEST joke going, not because if the physical aspect, but like TimT mentions, you fail the PT test, you have to start the entire academy over AND pay the entire cost again. This is simply a money grab by the academy.
wickster69

United States

#5 Mar 2, 2010
Just like the school systems. TOP HEAVY!!!!!
Common Sense Voter

Columbus, OH

#6 Mar 2, 2010
Why do the powers to be in state government feel that in order to improve something they need to either throw money at a problem or in this case hire more people? Government is too big now; I find it hard to believe that the additional 200k or so is going to be a worthwhile investment for the people of the state of Ohio. However, I do think it will be worthwhile for Cordray when he looks at his reelection bank account...

Gone are the days of efficiency within state/federal government...

"The academy now has 10administrators, up from eight. Administrative payroll jumped to $809,810 last year, up from $623,757 the previous year - an increase of 30percent." So they increased payroll; $186,053 when they came in and they just added another $200k or so with the 2 new hires?

Vote this nut job out of office. Not that Dewine is much better but I would hope that he wouldn’t do something this stupid when so many of us are without jobs, losing out homes, etc.
John

United States

#7 Mar 2, 2010
Same old story with state agencies, add at the top, chop at the bottom..!

Hey, I've got an idea; hire some more administrators to administer the administrators.
Tim T

Reynoldsburg, OH

#8 Mar 2, 2010
HuberHoney wrote:
TimT is absolutely correct. It appears they want to keep adding "administrators" that simply sit around all day and think up new "standards" for law enforcement to obtain. The PT test is the BIGGEST joke going, not because if the physical aspect, but like TimT mentions, you fail the PT test, you have to start the entire academy over AND pay the entire cost again. This is simply a money grab by the academy.
Well said!
Retired Chief

United States

#9 Mar 2, 2010
OPATA has become a haven for bureacrats and administrators. The staff worries more about what is politically correct than teaching basic police work. Also it is full of political hacks.
JustACitizen

Morristown, TN

#10 Mar 2, 2010
Would have been nice if the article had mentioned the background/qualifications of the two.
If I Only Had a BRAIN

Columbus, OH

#11 Mar 2, 2010
As usual the Dispatch missed the WHOLE POINT. These are Marc Dann hires/hold-overs who were "hidden" elsewhere within the agency...And these are certainly not the only TWO remaining.
UAW worker

Apopka, FL

#12 Mar 2, 2010
I had to laugh at the the posts on the PT test. If you cannot pass it I do not want you to help me when I am in trouble. If your department does not follow up with a wellness program shame on them. If you as a police officer does not commit to an ongoing fitness program you should look for another line of work where big stomachs are acceptable.
Tim T

Reynoldsburg, OH

#13 Mar 2, 2010
UAW worker wrote:
I had to laugh at the the posts on the PT test. If you cannot pass it I do not want you to help me when I am in trouble. If your department does not follow up with a wellness program shame on them. If you as a police officer does not commit to an ongoing fitness program you should look for another line of work where big stomachs are acceptable.
Says the idiot big fat AUTO union worker.

The problem is not that there is a PT test. The problem is the state does not require PD's to follow through with it. I agree fitness is important in law enforcement, firefighting and life in general. If each department followed through, it wouldnt be an issue. However, like anything else, if you dont pay someone to do it, they likely wont. OSHP pays each Trooper extra towards fitness for example. Most departments dont have annual PT exams. The ones that do are very few. Of those that do, most are so relaxed anyhow that anyone who breathes can pass it. Most dont have strict standards. So by OPOTA making people pass such strict PT standards is moot. It also wouldnt be bad if you didnt have to re-take the entire academy all over again just by failing the PT test. That screams of a money grab and not so much caring about teaching people squat about policing. Why should you have to learn ORC, traffic crash investigation, etc all over again because you didnt pass the PT test?

Since: Oct 09

Van Wert, OH

#14 Mar 2, 2010
wickster69 wrote:
Just like the school systems. TOP HEAVY!!!!!
Just like the population, Top heavy!!!

Since: Oct 09

Van Wert, OH

#15 Mar 2, 2010
UAW worker wrote:
I had to laugh at the the posts on the PT test. If you cannot pass it I do not want you to help me when I am in trouble. If your department does not follow up with a wellness program shame on them. If you as a police officer does not commit to an ongoing fitness program you should look for another line of work where big stomachs are acceptable.
WELL SAID!!!

Since: Oct 09

Van Wert, OH

#16 Mar 2, 2010
Tim T wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the idiot big fat AUTO union worker.
The problem is not that there is a PT test. The problem is the state does not require PD's to follow through with it. I agree fitness is important in law enforcement, firefighting and life in general. If each department followed through, it wouldnt be an issue. However, like anything else, if you dont pay someone to do it, they likely wont. OSHP pays each Trooper extra towards fitness for example. Most departments dont have annual PT exams. The ones that do are very few. Of those that do, most are so relaxed anyhow that anyone who breathes can pass it. Most dont have strict standards. So by OPOTA making people pass such strict PT standards is moot. It also wouldnt be bad if you didnt have to re-take the entire academy all over again just by failing the PT test. That screams of a money grab and not so much caring about teaching people squat about policing. Why should you have to learn ORC, traffic crash investigation, etc all over again because you didnt pass the PT test?
Then put more emphasis on passing the PT test, you're gonna need it to complete your training. If you can't pass it, Wrong career choice.
Retired Chief

United States

#17 Mar 2, 2010
If I Only Had a BRAIN wrote:
As usual the Dispatch missed the WHOLE POINT. These are Marc Dann hires/hold-overs who were "hidden" elsewhere within the agency...And these are certainly not the only TWO remaining.
As I stated, OPATA is full of political hacks.
Tim T

Reynoldsburg, OH

#18 Mar 3, 2010
its OPOTA, not OPATA

O - Ohio
P - Peace
O - Officer's
T - Training
A - Academy
Tim T

Reynoldsburg, OH

#19 Mar 3, 2010
HilltopThom wrote:
<quoted text>
Then put more emphasis on passing the PT test, you're gonna need it to complete your training. If you can't pass it, Wrong career choice.
You missed the point. What good is it if there is no follow through? Yea, get in shape to pass the dumb state test then gain it all back.

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