Clayton County Schools to Lose Accred...

Clayton County Schools to Lose Accreditation September 1

There are 82 comments on the WXIA Atlanta story from Mar 15, 2008, titled Clayton County Schools to Lose Accreditation September 1. In it, WXIA Atlanta reports that:

The Advanced Accreditation Commission voted Saturday to remove the SACS accreditation from the Clayton County school district, acting on reports submitted by the special review team that visited the district.

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Duluth, GA

#1 Mar 15, 2008
For the sake of accuracy, Clayton won't lose accreditation on September 1 if they rectify the nine problems SACS sited. I noticed when the story first broke that SACS recommended they lose their accreditation, this website on February 15, said that Clayton is in fact losing it. Sad that this site does that. It takes into question your credibility at truth when a title is first read. I will no longer look to this site for accurate "breaking" news because you are about the straight drama in a title rather than truth. The editor needs to get their writers in check.
Fedup

Ellenwood, GA

#3 Mar 15, 2008
This was on the ajc website:

The only chance the district has to hold on to accreditation is to meet nine mandates by September, but that is highly unlikely, said Mark Elgart, president and chief executive officer of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.

"I do believe unless outside significant intervention is provided and support is provided, the system does not have the ability to meet nine requirements," said Elgart, whose Southern Association is a member of the accreditation group.

If the school board would step down, maybe we could get some of that "outside intervention" - but they won't be content until they have totally destroyed what's left of the county.

I've never seen such a sorry, pathetic group of people. Oh well, what goes around, comes around.
Andrew

Arcata, CA

#4 Mar 15, 2008
So the kids don't get to go to college because members of the school board were mismanaging and unethical???
evette

United States

#6 Mar 15, 2008
I understand this is a county issue, bue this has become a state issue, and an economic issue. This is when the state, the govenor's office, needs to step in and mandate the school board stepped down. Clayton County is a melting pot, and I truly believe that once they hold on to their accreditation, the parents and citizens of this county need to accept that visable and active involvement with the school system needs to be apparent before a crisis like this happens. The lack of comment be the state concerns me that they would allow this county to fall through the cracks.
Amy

United States

#7 Mar 15, 2008
Andrew, Clayton county public schools don't lose accreditation until September 1, 2008. So any student who graduates this June won't be affected with respect to the HOPE scholarship. Only students who continue to attend the Clayton county public schools after September 1 will be in jeopardy due to the loss of accreditation.

Therefore, any Clayton county parent who cares about their child will remove him from the Clayton county public schools before the next school year.

Private schools are an option, or the parents can move to another county. The latter is what is terrifying Clayton county realtors.
sgm

Atlanta, GA

#8 Mar 15, 2008
There needs to be a remediation period for a new administration to come in and try to correct the problems before accreditation is yanked. It simply is not fair to punish the students who blindly and faithfully attend school everyday (who have no other choices)to try to succeed for the future. Our systems are so far beyond stupid we can't even laugh at what's happening. School systems, judicial systems, welfare systems....I am looking internationally for a new address.
Amy

United States

#9 Mar 15, 2008
Evette, local control, and local funding, of public schools is an American tradition. But if we prefer, we can cede control to the State or the Feds. That frightens a lot of people, religious fundamentalists and free thinkers alike, but considering how poorly local control has fared in Clayton county perhaps you have something there. Just let Big Brother dictate how our schools are run and what our children are taught.
sgm

Atlanta, GA

#10 Mar 15, 2008
Amy, I have taught for 8 years and their truly are parents out there who don't have a clue (ignorant, lazy, substance abuser, overworked, you name it) and they just put their child on a bus with free lunches at school and don't have a clue what is going on otherwise. For those kids, private school is not an option and moving is not an option. Even if School Choice is an option with a failing school, in many cases if the location of the school is not convenient to parents, the kids may just have to go 'where ever.' This really, really sucks for the kids. And there is not much we can do about it. :(
jfg

Roswell, GA

#14 Mar 15, 2008
JFK made a comment to the effect that something, not sure, had "all the charm of the North and all the efficiency of the South." Applies here.
Amy

United States

#15 Mar 15, 2008
sgm, yes there are parents like that, and their kids often turn out like Atwater and Lovette. Perhaps people who suggest a license be required to have a child are on the right track.

Since: Aug 07

Stone Mountain, GA

#18 Mar 16, 2008
Amy wrote:
Andrew, Clayton county public schools don't lose accreditation until September 1, 2008. So any student who graduates this June won't be affected with respect to the HOPE scholarship. Only students who continue to attend the Clayton county public schools after September 1 will be in jeopardy due to the loss of accreditation.
Therefore, any Clayton county parent who cares about their child will remove him from the Clayton county public schools before the next school year.
Private schools are an option, or the parents can move to another county. The latter is what is terrifying Clayton county realtors.
Kind of hard to move when your house value has plummeted. Who wants to purchase a house in a failing school district? As for private school, I would guess that many people simply can not afford to send their kids. Also since many parents work and transportation is not provided to most private schools, the logistics would complicate the matter.

Recalling the sorry members of the board won't solve the immediate problem either. By the time a recall election is held and new members in place, the September 1 deadline would have long past. On the other hand, since the school board is 100% to blame, I would guess that if they were all gone then the accreditation board might cut the school system some slack if all the board were kicked to the curb
Mystic

United States

#19 Mar 16, 2008
Perhaps it is time for Georgia lawmakers to take a one time action of taking control. I know it would require pasing a onetime use law but for the sake of children in Clayton it may be the only chance.
jack

Atlanta, GA

#21 Mar 16, 2008
evette wrote:
I understand this is a county issue, bue this has become a state issue, and an economic issue. This is when the state, the govenor's office, needs to step in and mandate the school board stepped down. Clayton County is a melting pot, and I truly believe that once they hold on to their accreditation, the parents and citizens of this county need to accept that visable and active involvement with the school system needs to be apparent before a crisis like this happens. The lack of comment be the state concerns me that they would allow this county to fall through the cracks.
Think that you will find that the state has stepped in. What they cannot do legally is 'FIRE' the current BOE -- that is up to the people who voted them in! Believe you will find that two members of the State School Board of Education are involved up to their elbows attempting to assist in Clayton County retaining their accreditation -- a Mr. Bostick and a Mr. Bryant (according to the AJC). The larger question is: WILL THE CLAYTON COUNTY COMMUNITY DEMAND THE REMOVAL OF ALL -- REPEAT ALL -- OF THE CURRENT BOARD OF EDUCATION??? If the answer to this question is 'no', then point the finger at the citizens -- not the state.
jack

Atlanta, GA

#22 Mar 16, 2008
Mystic wrote:
Perhaps it is time for Georgia lawmakers to take a one time action of taking control. I know it would require pasing a onetime use law but for the sake of children in Clayton it may be the only chance.
WOW!! This sure does not speak well for 'self governance' does it?????
I understand but

United States

#23 Mar 16, 2008
sgm wrote:
There needs to be a remediation period for a new administration to come in and try to correct the problems before accreditation is yanked. It simply is not fair to punish the students who blindly and faithfully attend school everyday (who have no other choices)to try to succeed for the future.
They have been aware of the problems and the potential loss of accreditation for the past FIVE YEARS and they've spent the entire five year dealing with the warnings by doing more of the same. Fair? Punishment? The school board brought it on the school and the administration did nothing about it and now the parents are crying foul. Where was the concern when the warnings and suspension were first issued?
Upset Mother

AOL

#26 Mar 16, 2008
This makes no sense at all. Our children are the ones being hurt. No one seems to see this. It will be hard for us to take them out of the county to other schools. It really upsets me to have to go outside our county. Everyone will not be able to do that. This is making it hard on the whole county. God forbid you have a home here, we can't even sell and move. The housing market is not good at all and who is going to buy a house where the schools have no accreditation. This makes no sense!!! What message does this send to our children about the adults who are in leadership. Sad, Sad.
Rakman

Lawrenceville, GA

#29 Mar 16, 2008
Amy wrote:
sgm, yes there are parents like that, and their kids often turn out like Atwater and Lovette. Perhaps people who suggest a license be required to have a child are on the right track.
Could it be the permissiveness of parents, who having failed to uphold the standards of honesty and morality, that are largely to blame for the political and social disorders that characterize the present generation?
Redd

Warner Robins, GA

#30 Mar 16, 2008
This whole thing is crazy. Why dosen't the entire board just step down on their own? It's clear the don't care anything about the children in the county. Nobody wants to give up power. The wrong people are in wrong positions, and the kids are the ones who stand to get hurt the most.
Andrea

AOL

#31 Mar 16, 2008
It is a travesty that Clayton county, the students and the residents will suffer such a tramatic lost from the accredidation. However, warnings were prevalent and appropriate action was not taken seriously and in a timely manner. It appears to me that the problem lies within the county board members and their inability to effectively perform their jobs. If the county has been cited for a failure to meet nine deficiencies, what is the problem? It is possible for the board to meet these expectations by September 1 should they employ effective candidates. The other logical solution would be to salvage those members that can and will produce and simply "get rid" of those who can't. Years of experience is irrelevant now. A lack of productivity, favoritism, unprofessionalism and unethical behavior has jeopordizized the future of our deserving youth. This behavior should no longer be tolerated. It is a slap in the face for all those before us who worked so hard to prove that African American and disadvanted children were worthy of a quality education. They should not suffer, because of ineffective leadership. The logical solution would be to dismiss the board members and hire interim members, until more qualified candidates can be found. The ironic thing about this is that those interim members already reside in the county and probably serve in classroom and administrative positions. They are the silent leaders who can jump and make changes in a moment's notice. They know who they are! Now would be an excellent time to make the transition. It's not personal, but professional. If only I had the authority to be placed in a position to make the necessary changes, the board would be replaced and accreditation in tact not long before or after Spetember 1. There still is time, but these changes should not linger. Immediate action is required now! Everyone needs to stop tap dancing around the issue and fix the obvious broken links in the chain.

Since: Feb 08

United States

#32 Mar 16, 2008
Andrew wrote:
So the kids don't get to go to college because members of the school board were mismanaging and unethical???
The kids might still get a chance for Hope scholarships, plans are underway to ensure that.

I live in Rockdale County and there is talk of moving Clayton County Seniors to schools in neighboring counties, Salem High in Rockdale, for their senior year.

I'm sure not all of them would be able to do it but at least it looks like there would be a chance for many of them.

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