Lisa Nale will keep her job as princi...

Lisa Nale will keep her job as principal at Borden

There are 20 comments on the Banner-Gazette story from Aug 13, 2010, titled Lisa Nale will keep her job as principal at Borden. In it, Banner-Gazette reports that:

Borden Junior/Senior High School Principal Lisa Nale was retained for that position last night during the West Clark School Board's regular meeting.

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Wait and see

Fisherville, KY

#1 Aug 16, 2010
What a shame. Our school board just sent a clear message that the consequences for breaking the law and putting others at extreme risk is just a slap on the hand.
This has nothing to do with the quality of her performance as Principal at Borden. It has everything to do with the type of example she sets and the message that it delivers. She can be forgiven, and encouraged to make something good happen from this - but to be allowed to retain her position shows a lack of judgement from our school board. It would have been a better message to signal that something the consequences include losing your job.
Judge

Cadiz, KY

#2 Aug 16, 2010
First and for most we all make mistakes, that is how we learn lifes lessons. To set and judge is only God's place. She is a remarkable person that used poor judgement. Even if she didn't there are kids that is going to make mistakes anyway. She deserves a second chance as anyone does. The kids are going to look at her as the leader that she is....not the mistakes that she makes.
just me

Elizabethtown, KY

#3 Aug 16, 2010
Judge wrote:
First and for most we all make mistakes, that is how we learn lifes lessons. To set and judge is only God's place. She is a remarkable person that used poor judgement. Even if she didn't there are kids that is going to make mistakes anyway. She deserves a second chance as anyone does. The kids are going to look at her as the leader that she is....not the mistakes that she makes.
I couldn't agree more. I am thrilled with this decision. Lisa deserves to be able to show her students that something positive can come of this.
Wait and see

Fisherville, KY

#4 Aug 16, 2010
So if it is for her to lose her job, that is considered judging? But if it is that she should keep her job, that isn't judging? Both are, just different opinions. Also never said that she is the only one who makes mistakes. You're right, we all do. Lessons can be learned for all sorts of consequences.

Second chances can be had even if she was no longer employed by West Clark.
we are all human

Vallonia, IN

#5 Aug 16, 2010
I am glad to see to see that the West Clark School Board has the ability to look beyond a mistake and look at the quality of Ms. Nale's performance over the years and did not forget the positive things she has done for the school...a neighboring school board should take lessons!
Judge

Cadiz, KY

#6 Aug 17, 2010
She is a very positive person who cares a great deal about the kids. Good for her that she keeps her job and good for the kids that they have her as a role model.
Wait and see

Fisherville, KY

#7 Aug 17, 2010
What does it take for it not to be considered "a mistake". What a nice way to try to minimize what she did. If you simply refer to it as "a mistake", it makes it easier to separate her actions from similar actions of others who weren't so lucky as to be liked.

She should be used as a role model for how not to behave. My children know what she did was wrong, and they know that she got off very light. She will be used as an example of poor decisions that could have killed others. She's very lucky that she didn't. She'll also be used as an example that sometimes some people get away with things that they shouldn't.

If this was someone who wasn't liked, I wonder if your opinions would be different?
just me

Mammoth Cave, KY

#8 Aug 17, 2010
Wait and see wrote:
What does it take for it not to be considered "a mistake". What a nice way to try to minimize what she did. If you simply refer to it as "a mistake", it makes it easier to separate her actions from similar actions of others who weren't so lucky as to be liked.
She should be used as a role model for how not to behave. My children know what she did was wrong, and they know that she got off very light. She will be used as an example of poor decisions that could have killed others. She's very lucky that she didn't. She'll also be used as an example that sometimes some people get away with things that they shouldn't.
If this was someone who wasn't liked, I wonder if your opinions would be different?
I hope that your children never have to experience being used as role models for their mistakes because you wish that on others. Lisa has always been one to help someone up when they have fallen. Perhaps that is why people have been so gracious to her in her time of trial.
need a change

Pekin, IN

#9 Aug 17, 2010
she is a poor excuse for a role model. With all she did on the night of her arrest there should be no questions asked whether she keep her job or not. Had she hit and killed or even injured someone that night then how big of a role model would she be. Borden schools need a true role model and I hope the school board feels the same way. She has embarrased the school and the community enough. It is now time to move on with a new principal!
just me

Mammoth Cave, KY

#10 Aug 18, 2010
She would still be a human being who made a mistake. We all make bad decisions. She was lucky that none of those things happened and i'm sure she is fully aware of that. That does not make her any less effective as a principal. She has proven that she is awesome at her job. If this had not happened nobody would be asking for a "change". Look back at your own mistakes in life and think if there are any that could have bit you in the ass. How would you feel if we all sat and judged you on topix? Maybe the change should be made in how you treat others.
Haytown

United States

#11 Aug 18, 2010
I have to wonder if she were to keep her job if the children or the parents would ever take her seriously as a principal or even an educator at all; they have released some very embarrassing details of her arrest and as a parent myself I dont know if I could look past it all if I or my child had to answer to her, it will always be in the back of everyones mind and sadly she will probably suffer because of that. She should find another career and move on or she will be subjected to harsh discrimination. My heart goes out to her.
Saddened and Surprised

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Aug 19, 2010
As a former student of Ms. Nale's, I can't say how disappointed I am in this situation. She was a wonderful teacher and a huge influence on not only myself, but my classmates as well. I'm sure she has had the same affect on hundreds of students since my time in her classroom. I'm now a 30 year old mother. While I want my children to have dedicated educators to help guide them through life, I rely on those individuals to set good examples as well. While she has made a mistake that I'm sure she is deeply sorry for, her actions cannot go unnoticed. What kind of message are we sending to our children by condoning her behavior? Had she injured someone, I'm sure the public would have felt very different about the situation. The fact that the community was lucky and no one was physically harmed does not change how reckless her actions were in the first place. I'm saddened both by the loss that the community will now face in light of this situation and for the respect that I no longer have for Ms. Nale and others in similar situations. I can only pray that our children will continue to have educators in their life that they can look to and that parents can rely on to set good examples.
just me

Mammoth Cave, KY

#13 Aug 19, 2010
Saddened and Surprised wrote:
As a former student of Ms. Nale's, I can't say how disappointed I am in this situation. She was a wonderful teacher and a huge influence on not only myself, but my classmates as well. I'm sure she has had the same affect on hundreds of students since my time in her classroom. I'm now a 30 year old mother. While I want my children to have dedicated educators to help guide them through life, I rely on those individuals to set good examples as well. While she has made a mistake that I'm sure she is deeply sorry for, her actions cannot go unnoticed. What kind of message are we sending to our children by condoning her behavior? Had she injured someone, I'm sure the public would have felt very different about the situation. The fact that the community was lucky and no one was physically harmed does not change how reckless her actions were in the first place. I'm saddened both by the loss that the community will now face in light of this situation and for the respect that I no longer have for Ms. Nale and others in similar situations. I can only pray that our children will continue to have educators in their life that they can look to and that parents can rely on to set good examples.
I can tell by your response that your a very well educated and compassionate individual. I can only assume that Ms. Nale had some part in that by what you have to say about her. It is sad and quite understandable that you have lost your respect for her. It is true that if she had hurt or injured someone the feelings would have been different. That is a valid point. I hope that Lisa moves forward to earn the respect of the community and her students back. People do make mistakes and learn from them. I don't think they always need to lose everything to do that. She was humiliated far more than any man in her shoes would have been. Do you really think all of those details would have been released if she were a male? She does her job well and it will be hard to face the parents and students after this. If she makes it through that she deserves the chance to redeem herself.
Wait and see

Fisherville, KY

#14 Aug 19, 2010
Losing one's job is not losing everything. The humiliating details that came out do not turn Lisa Nale into a victim. Is it also possible to say that had she been a male, she would have lost her job?
"Just Me" hopes that my children never have to be used as negative role models and attempts to shame me for suggesting that Lisa Nale be used as an example of what not to do. I have repeatedly said that I hope she can turn this into something positive in her future. That does not, however, excuse her actions. Nor does it mean that just because she is "liked" she should have kept her job. She's not the victim. She showed extremely poor judgement. I don't, nor have I ever, had a drink and then gotten in my car to drive. My children are well aware of this. It is an example that has been set for them. To attempt to fault anyone that uses Lisa Nale's lack of judgement as a bad example is ridiculous. Trying to victimize her undermines her ability to turn it around into an example of how to deal with personal mistakes and grow from them. She has only herself to blame. Not the media or the fact that she is female.
just me

Mammoth Cave, KY

#15 Aug 19, 2010
Wait and see wrote:
Losing one's job is not losing everything. The humiliating details that came out do not turn Lisa Nale into a victim. Is it also possible to say that had she been a male, she would have lost her job?
"Just Me" hopes that my children never have to be used as negative role models and attempts to shame me for suggesting that Lisa Nale be used as an example of what not to do. I have repeatedly said that I hope she can turn this into something positive in her future. That does not, however, excuse her actions. Nor does it mean that just because she is "liked" she should have kept her job. She's not the victim. She showed extremely poor judgement. I don't, nor have I ever, had a drink and then gotten in my car to drive. My children are well aware of this. It is an example that has been set for them. To attempt to fault anyone that uses Lisa Nale's lack of judgement as a bad example is ridiculous. Trying to victimize her undermines her ability to turn it around into an example of how to deal with personal mistakes and grow from them. She has only herself to blame. Not the media or the fact that she is female.
I'm not turning Lisa into a victim any more than you are trying to turn her into a villian. You stated that she would be used as an example of someone who did something wrong and got away with it. Just because I don't agree with your view of that doesn't make me "ridiculous". I don't happen to think a man would have been fired for this and under the same circumstances he shouldn't have been. It hasn't been too long ago that a male School Board member got a DUI in Clark County and although it had media coverage it sure didn't have details. I believe the paper states the ISP as saying they generally don't keep the details of those arrest. I am in noway condoning Lisa's actions. She is very remorseful. I am merely saying that it's not up to anyone of us to make judgements against her. She is a fine principal and I for one wish her the very best. Just because you have never gotten behind the wheel of a car after drinking does not mean you haven't done other things that could have potentially caused someone else harm. Don't be so self righteous it's not becoming.
Katrina

AOL

#16 Aug 19, 2010
Why has no one faced the issue that alcoholism is an illness? Lisa did not make a MISTAKE. She has refused to confront her illness. She needs to be in a rehab center where she can be watched 24/7 through her withdrawal, and guided into a new view of herself and her illness. Like the Betty Ford Clinic. This is not something a person can do by themselves. You cannot WISH an illness away. You have to LEARN to manage it. Her wanting to "get on with it" is a complete denial that there is a problem in her life that forgiveness cannot erase. It is a lifelong illness---not one MISTAKE. An illness. Lisa needs to take the opportunity to work on herself and face her own issues, which do not include working at this time. She needs to rest and renew her life while she still has it. People who are pushing her to go on as usual are only hurting her! They are the enablers to her demise.
Friend

Clarksville, TN

#17 Aug 23, 2010
Katrina;
Do you know Lisa personally? You sure are making assumptions on her personal life. I know Lisa to be a wonderful, caring person who LOVES her job and her kids at the school.
Wait and see

Fisherville, KY

#18 Aug 23, 2010
I have no doubt that Lisa loves her job and is happy that she is able to keep it and that she cares about the kids in the school. I also have no doubt that her effectiveness has been compromised by her arrest. That's obvious by some of the postings here. If one believes that positive actions by Lisa have influenced her reputation, then it is safe to say that negative actions also influence.

The fact that some people support her staying in her current position will never change my belief that she should have been fired. I don't know if this was the first time she chose to drink to the point of intoxication or not. I don't know if it was the first time that she did so and then decided to drive her vehicle. I do know that I am thankful that she didn't kill anyone, including herself.

The principal of a school should be a good role model. I would have had more respect for her if she had resigned.
Judge

Cadiz, KY

#19 Aug 24, 2010
We all need to remember that it is only those without sin that can cast stones.....
just me

Elizabethtown, KY

#20 Aug 25, 2010
Judge wrote:
We all need to remember that it is only those without sin that can cast stones.....
AMEN....

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