Three vie in Clare sheriff's primary

Three vie in Clare sheriff's primary

There are 93 comments on the Morning Sun story from Jun 24, 2008, titled Three vie in Clare sheriff's primary. In it, Morning Sun reports that:

Clare County sheriff hopefuls include a former deputy who cites tumultuous life experience as key to his ability to lead, a deputy who cites strong family ties and a love of the area and a relative newcomer who ...

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Jack

Mount Pleasant, MI

#41 Oct 23, 2008
Kudos to John!
John

Harrison, MI

#42 Oct 24, 2008
Bill needs to actually become a command officer and realize what is done on a daily basis. Its easy to sit on the side line and complain, but I guess your good at that. Do you know how many people call a command officer each day. Then they have to baby sit deputies that decide they cant do their jobs correctly or just do things on duty to benifit their campaigns. If deputies actually worked with the people like humans, the command staff would be able to get out more.
Wilson is one of those problems. He doesnt do his job. He doesnt arrest anyone, stop crimes, or write tickets, all he does on duty is campaign. Guess this is a "Working SHeriff". He is too scared of his own shadow to do anything else. I guess if he wins, it wont be to hard to beat him in four years.
Paula

Mount Pleasant, MI

#43 Oct 24, 2008
If Wilson is such a bad Deputy, then why do they keep him around. I haven't heard any of this in public, only on this page.
John

Harrison, MI

#44 Oct 24, 2008
Wilson cant clean up anything in the dept. He cant just go in a fire the current LT's and Sgts. Even if he demotes them down to deputy, he still has to pay them at LT's and Sgts wages, which would cost the county even more to have to pay double wages. Unions protect them from losing their jobs with a new sheriff.

You probably dont hear this cause you are on Wilsons side. People seem to be turning a blind eye to anything that isnt good. Also, you would have to FOIA his personell record to find out the truth of wilson.

I was reading the county forums asking a candidate and wilson's 12 hour shift was shot down. He never answered the reasons to stay on a 10 hour shift? He seems to stray away from making to many educational responses to questions. Maybe the lack of experience, education, or the know how?
John

Harrison, MI

#45 Oct 24, 2008
Also if wilson was fired now for his past year and a half of screw-ups and not doing his job, what do you think his supporters would say? Claim it was political, and how poor John lost his job. Be pretty dumb move politically to do this. Sympathy vote
Paula

Mount Pleasant, MI

#46 Oct 25, 2008
John, you seem to know an aweful lot about Wilson. You must be real close to the Department, or work there. Sounds to me that you have something against him personally. I will not respond anymore.
John

Harrison, MI

#47 Oct 25, 2008
I have nothing against him personally, just do not feel is he ready to lead a department. It drives me nuts that people have bought into what he is saying. Seems like anytime the truth is shown people run away and give up. His supporters sound good until facts are presented, then the game seems to change.

Forgive me for making an educated decision when I vote. Researching both sides and deciding who is best fit for the job is something everyone should do before voting.
BILL

Saginaw, MI

#48 Oct 25, 2008
YES YOU SHOULD RESEARCH THE FACTS, AND THE FACTS ARE GREGORY HAS NO LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE. REFERENCE THE COMMAND STAFF, UNLESS GOYT TAKES ALL THEIR PERSONEL FILES WITH HIM, MOST OF THE COMMAND STAFF HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE MENTALLY UNFIT TO WORK IN A JOB WITH A GUN. THUS GIVING A REASON TO LET THEM GO. IF THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH HAVE THE DEPT. PSYCHOLOGIST REEXAMINE THEM. I KNOW FOR A FACT TWO OF THE COMMAND OFFICER WOULD BE DETERMINED UNFIT.
Brad

Mount Pleasant, MI

#49 Oct 25, 2008
Let's get the facts right.There will never be any change made to the sheriff dept until you get the whole command staff OUT! Wilson is one of them and will be forever in the pocket of the old sheriff and if he wins he will have to repay that fact.The two Lt do nothing but kiss ass of who ever is sheriff and have never worked hard a day in law enforcement. As far as Wilson he has been picked to be the next sheriff for a long time but this was not to happen until Goyt left the office. Gregory is a dog trainer and nothing more and any one can train a dog to do what he does it's just a game and most hunters that train dogs do the same thing. Anyone who knows what it takes to change the sheriff's office would have voted for someone who does not owe anyone and is outspoken and not afraid to have made the changes that needed to be done. Anyone that gets that sheriff's office can get rid of the command staff at anytime due to the fact that they all have done enough things to fire them all, from moving money to taking things from the sheriff dept to medical & mental problems to chasing women. Most of the command staff are prozac babies and could not work there without taking it. Most of them would not have thier job if they worked any other place, they would and should have been fired. Its funny how one of the command officer runs around with a handicap sticker and puts it in the windshield of a patrol vehicle. One of the Sgt. playing a game inside the dept with another deputy gets shot in the leg, files a federal lawsuit against the dept. cost millions in medical bills and gets demoted then promoted after a sexual harrassment claim!! What's up with that!
HDC

United States

#50 Oct 26, 2008
Ha ha ha! Just came across these posting and got a good chuckle reading them.
Kelly: You might want to make up your mind BEFORE you speak. Or try re-reading what you already posted.
Quote: "it really doesnt matter if it is wilson or goyt at this point as long as it wasnt the other two idiots. gregory has sex with everyone,"
"and actually I do like mr gregory as a person he just shouldnt be sheriff, altough my family does support him"
First you call him an idiot and say he has sex with everyone and then you say how you like him.
Glad your not my "friend"!
Time for a change.....time for some real integrity!
GO GREGORY! YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE!!
John

Harrison, MI

#52 Oct 27, 2008
Ok BRAD...Your refering to Lt Miller and his handicap sticker. Being that he just had his knees totally replaced and is confined to walking aids for a couple months, I hope you can find it in your heart to allow someone who struggles to walk to use a handicap sticker. Another command officer is Lt. McClellan. Lets see...twenty some odd years as an officer. Working on call as lead det. for 12 years. You never get called out to investigations, lost persons, or anything as det. Sgt Williams just got back from Iraq. Oh yeah sure he hasnt had a hard days work in his life, tell him that serving his country isnt a hards day of work...dare ya... Mike Coon never sued the dept. for his accident that occured at work. The county cant fire people who occur a disability on the job. He was placed on MEdical leave. Who takes care of pay when hurt at work...hmm Workmans Comp? Pretty sure the feds would jump all over that one. But i guess that you get that with training and an education. Coon was given the det. job after an interview with three troopers, mac, an FBI agent, and a det from Bay County. Try to fire someone because of a problem, without trying to get them help for it first.
Lets see who's side is the former Administrator who stole money from inmates, and hazed juveniles and lives in Clare...hmm not goyt or gregory....
The man who was fired for sexual misconduct on the internet at dispatch..on wilsons side...the man who was fired from the Dog Catcher for misconduct....wilsons side....former hospital admin who was "let go" for taking kick backs...on wilsons side...person fired for misconduct 4 years ago from CCSD...going to be Wilsons undersheriff....Cant see this going bad for Clare county.
Wilson was a command officer for 5 years....all he had to do was maintain a schedule..he lies saying he did the grants for the MDT's...oh oh...facts...something democrats dont like.....the undersheriff wrote the grant...all wilson did was pick up a Dell add and find prices on computers when the dept already secured the grant.Lie #1. At the first debate at Mid Mich. College in June he stated "I have never been arrested". Lie #2. Stated at a debate at Lk. George "Was in charge of the budget as a SGT." Lie #3 Sgts arent in charge of any budget. Said "Never testified or helped a friend recieve a lesser sentence." at MMCC debate..Lie #4 Claimed he "never tipped off McFarlands"...fOIA the case record..lie #5....etc....

Oh..isnt Wilson on Prozac or another behavior modifying medication? You have a problem with staff being on it...but when its the power of the building...its ok?
Brad

Mount Pleasant, MI

#53 Oct 27, 2008
Ok John, yes I can see the sticker for a short time but for the last 3 years?? Cant see him running down the bad guys anytime soon! McClellan is nothing but a total screw up! That seems to have time for lots of activities besides work. OH and are you so sure about Coon????? Here is the case number 2:95-cv-71989, filed 2-24-1995,Plaintiff is Coon, Defendant is CCSD, Howard Haskin and Roy Heron. This is filed at the federal court in Bay City in case you care to check out facts before you blab your mouth. His leg didnt seemed to bother him when he stripped naked at a bachelorette party either! I do not know who you are talking about as far as administrator. You are correct about the dispatcher and dog catcher. I do not who you are talking about on the undersheriff or hosp administrator either.You can say all day people lie about this and that, there's always two sides. I don't know what Wilson is on and don't care. Unless you have seen the rx how would you know? And I am not a democrat just for the record.
John

Harrison, MI

#54 Oct 28, 2008
Ask the people in Lk of the Pines what they think of coon...thats right he solved their arson cases. Check how many home robberys he solved...the latest raping/kidnapping of a little girl...Coon caught the guy. You know why coon went after haskin...cause he tried to fire him after he was hurt at work. There isnt two sides to a lie. All those # lies are what he said and are proven lies.. He later told different stories because he was scared people knew his lies. How many cases has McClellan solved? Coon has to pass the same physical fitness test as Wilson does in order to be a work. Why are you attacking Coon, since he is all for wilson. Since he will be promoted to MCCLELLAN's job.
It was perfectly legal for coon to "Stip" if that is what he did. He wasnt on duty. Hmm..sued Howard haskin. Imagine...One of the heads of wilsons campaign involved in a lawsuit. Do some research on the "Clare 5" hazing incident to find out who was the former administrator that put 5 teens in lockup with the general inmate population under Haskin's watch. He also took money from inmates. Or just ask some in Clare to help you.

About wilsons drugs it is true, but if you dont want to believe it thats fine. Whats the perscription number on the officers you claim are on it?
Brad

Mount Pleasant, MI

#55 Oct 28, 2008
Isnt that what he's getting paid for? Not real hard to catch a guy after he takes her to his house and she goes home from there. And you said Coon didnt sue the dept. If that was the case why was he sueing Roy Heron also? And why was he playing with a gun in the first place? LMAO Physical fitness!!! You have to be kidding! Im not attacking Coon just stating the truth. People that have done less than strip off duty have been fired. Remember off duty conduct? McClellan has screwed up more cases than he has solved. As far as lawsuits a lot of the employees in there have filed them and it's their right when they feel there is wrong doing. Well why dont you tell me the rx# of Wilson's then? Haskin has tried to fire other people that have been injured actually doing their job, so must be something he likes to do.
John

Harrison, MI

#57 Oct 28, 2008
Coon didnt catch the guy at his home....he cought him in the city of farwell in a vehicle.

Behavior off duty can be used for grounds for dismissal if it violates the law. What is illegal about what coon was doing? Coon had to be tested by MCOLES in order to return to active duty or he would have been permanatly disabled and would be collecting disability.

Remember your the one who started the allegations of meds with other officers...so i stated the same about wilson.

Alot of employee's there have not filed suites. People that are let go always threaten, but then they realize that they screwed up and its dropped.

A Vote for Wilson will RE_ELECT HOWARD HASKIN!
*Guess the change he wants to make is back to corruption.
John 3-16

United States

#58 Oct 28, 2008
Howard Haskin? He's in his mid 70's, can't add or subtract, can hardly move one side of his body, and he is being re-elected with Wilson? Come on people, don't you think that Wilson can make his own decision, do you really believe he would put his family through 1 1/2 year of campaigning only to let someone else run the Department, get real. So far I have only seen about 6 different names on this forum, and all speak poorly of people excersizing their rights to run for an office. Everything here that is written is hearsay and would never stand up in court of law. Good Ole Boys, Mental Employees, Cover ups on cases. Where are the charges, where are the articles in the local newspapers, did I miss them? Some of you seem to hold information that would be very useful if it is true. Why are you not coming forward, or is the Good Ole Boy Club stopping you?? GET REAL PEOPLE, until the election started heating up, I have never heard any of the things stated in this forum on any candidate. If half of it was true, they would not be here running for Office. May GOD find forgivness for all of us for the way we talk about each other.........
Brad

Mount Pleasant, MI

#59 Oct 28, 2008
Ms. Dahlberg I can assure everyone I am NOT Shannon Shooter! I know of her that is all. You though, I do know two landlords you have rented from a few years back and screwed them over. Back to the subject. John I agree with you on some things, and some things that have been said are true. Point is we can sit here and yell at each other and won't change anything. It should be based solely on who is best for the job not all the other personal garbage, because we all have that. And I also wonder why a lot of the accusations about the candidates that are brought up in here, were not brought up at the Candidate meetings. I only attended one but have not heard of the things in here being asked.
John

Harrison, MI

#60 Oct 29, 2008
These issues were brought to wilsons attention at the forums. He just changed his answers from lies to partial truths. When only 40 people show up its quite sad.

John 3-16. The clare 5 was on 9 and 10 news. But got buried on someone else by haskin. The things that i have posted would stand up in court. But the people involved have to file the complaints. The only thing stated that wouldnt hold up in court is the mental shape of wilson..since there is that dr/patient priv.. You must not know howard haskin. the man will try to run things till he is cold in the ground. He is the reason Wilson's campaign is going. Haskin got mad at Goyt for not telling him info on an ongoing investigation, so he approached Wilson to run for sheriff. Howard is over at johns, calls him non stop...basically holds his hand through this process. Didnt you go to the business expo to see howard at Wilsons booth? At the fair to see howard showing john around the horse barns? Making john go with him to the URS trial? I would take all of what i said to court and put my hand on the bible with no problem
Jason

United States

#61 Oct 29, 2008
Wow John, you seem to know alot about things as soon as they occur at the Sheriff Department, must be real close to the current Sheriff. Maybe you should ask the Sheriff why he is really running, why he is forced to because of a financial problem his wife got them into at the CASINO! No, I can't proof it in a court of law but I know people that see her there on a regular basis at all hours of the night, on school nights, then go to school and teach our children. If you are going to open the door, open it on all candidates not just one!
John

Harrison, MI

#62 Oct 29, 2008
Wow...how low will you go to talk about wives.Are they running?.I guess i am above bringing peoples wives and families into the mix. Every one can say things about the candidates families, but they arent running!!! You must be close to Haskin since that is the lie he was telling people in clare to get votes for john. Lets see..financial problems....if you retire you get 85% of your salary. So is it worth 15% TO put up with the stuff you deal with as sheriff. Losing that percent would surely put a damper on his family.
Lets see....his wife teaches the children to read, write, count. You really want to drag her into this. She dedicates her life and time for any child at school and you want to bring her into it.
That statement about gambling was invented by the wilson campaign....because they got tired of hearing "How could you do this to Goyt",, "he gave you your job back"...."Put you on full time"

Jason is grasping at straws....When the truth is said people seem to invent things. Kind of like kids say "Nuh uh...you are" Good thing he says things he cant prove. Hmmm....."You know people" like Haskin?

Make sure you WRITE IN!!! Dont let wilson and Haskin win!!!!

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