Chilton county's, justice system is not,fair.

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Kathy

AOL

#1 Aug 25, 2008
Chilton county acts like the laws of the U.S,does not apply to them.Ya'll have your own court system.What I would like to know is what happened to incent untill proven guilty in a court of law.THATS MY OPPENION.
seen it first hand

Lincoln, AL

#2 Aug 26, 2008
Chilton County certainly has it's own justice system. I was even told by a circuit judge that he made the rules in his courtroom and did not need anyone telling him what to do. That same judge who punished people for infidelity,etc. was at the time having an affair. It is common knowledge and is a crying shame that someone of this character sits on a bench. Several lawyers from B'ham have said they have never seen anything like it. The whole system is a joke.
MKeyes

United States

#3 Aug 27, 2008
If a person feels that they were treated unfairly by a judge or by a lawyer,you have the right to complain to the Alabama State Bar.Their phone number is in the book. Chilton county is a growing county with growing pains.The legal system has yet to catch up to the growth.I am not making excuses for any one but there are days that the system does not have time to be as polite or as kind as we wish.There are time that the Judge can seem to be short tempered or just down right rude. You have to remember that they have seen and heard just about every excuse for anything some one has done or not done. Judges do not like any one coming into their court trying to "work the system." Now,that being said,I agree that it seems that it is not always fair in our eyes,but,justice will prevail.It is not a perfect system but it is the only system we have.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#4 Aug 28, 2008
I agree that is is not a perfect system and with most of what you said. Complaining to the bar is of no avail as I have tried it. I also work in a public service position and am not afforded the luxury of making the rules as I go along. If a judge or lawmaker does not possess the character and fortitude to follow the law precedence, then they should not be in that position of authority. I truly believed in this system until I experienced it firsthand. They are charged with the responsibility of doing what is right and just and not what their demeanor feels like on any given day. To waste people's money and time doing something they(the judge) ordered and then completely ignoring the results of forensic specialists is a gross miscarriage of justice in my opinion. I only hope soon the people of this county will awaken from their apathetic state and search out the details of those in elected positions and demand change and reform by voting them out of office.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#5 Aug 28, 2008
Another interesting snit is a lawyer who just make partner with a B'ham law firm who happens to be a Chilton Countian is another prime example of this fine county. He trains cops now, but they failed to mention in his executive bio that he has been fired from every law enforcement dept he worked for due to misconduct mostly for using excessive violence. The Bar licensed him after these incidences. I have come to agree with the sterotype lawyers have. Finding a honest and good one requires a lot of research and tenacity.
Kathy

AOL

#6 Sep 1, 2008
I feel sorry,for anyone who might be incent,and goes to jail in chilton county.i have seen a man i know is incent,have his life runned buy the system of chilton county.he has not even been to court yet but the,DA.,of chilton county has said,along with the sheriff,that he's going to pay for what happened.They have no fisical evedince,and no witness.Yet they have my brother charged with two counts of murder,and grand arson.I'am talking about a 28yr. old guy with a little baby,had is own house and a good job,and never been in any trouble,intill last Aug.and chilton county's fine sheriff dep. came and picked him up from our county and arrested him for something that happened 4 yrs.ago.I KNOW MY BROTHER HE IS A GOOD PERSON AND NEVER DID THIS.SO to the high and mighty DA. and sherrif,has said they finally got somebody for this crime and there going to see he prosacuted to the fullest they need to look long and hard at the evidence they do not have.before they ruin the life of a good hardworking,father,son,and brother.hey get pissed pleope,but think about if they can do this to my brother,they could do it to ya'll.


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MKeyes

United States

#7 Sep 2, 2008
While I do not know your brother,and I do not know anything about his legal problems,I do know that there must be some valid reason the DA and the Sheriff are holding him.Two counts of murder and one count of arson is about as serious as it gets.Has he had any kind of hearing where the evidence has been brought forth? The DA and the judge must have felt the proof the sheriff has are enough to prosecute. I don't think you are telling all there is to tell.
Kathy

AOL

#8 Sep 4, 2008
Yes,as a matter of fact we went to court yesterday.I have a file his att.gave us with the states evidence.So yes i'am telling to truth.Why is it so hard to believe that the courts and,DA.and sheriff do what looks good on there behalf.Please this is a incent person.so untill you know and have seen and heard,what I have do don't jugde.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#9 Sep 4, 2008
I don't know about all of this. In Jemison, a known 2 time felon was looked upon as an upstanding member of the city according to the governing of the city. It was commonly known that he was selling drugs and ripping people off, just read some of the contents about the fine law in this area. People could not get their property when he was arrested because the Jemison police would not allow it. It took Feds to take him down.
Kathy

AOL

#10 Sep 4, 2008
I personaly do not care what anyone believes.I have seen just how screwed up chilton county's whole system is.I wish more people would look at the sheriff's dep.and court system in chilton county.I'am not just saying all of this because of my brother who by the way is out on bond now for 8 months working,taking care of his daughter and doing very well.I have been in other countys and seen there court systems and they do not do things the way chilton county does.I have freinds in lawinforcement,and in other court systems that say this whole thing is BS.So I do know what I'am talking about.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#11 Sep 5, 2008
I agree wholeheartedly. My attorneys from Birmingham told me the same thing that they have never seen anything like it before and that nothing like what I experienced would ever have happened in Jefferson County. These judges are very territorial and anyone who dares get an out of town judge are just screwed and it is practically an automatic court loss if you do not use a local attorney. First, there are no "good" lawyers locally, only ones who are better "connected" with the court system. It is a disgrace to the entire justice system. I know of one young man who was convicted of rape on little to no evidence and his life ruined by these guys and is now in prison. I am appalled at the justice system this county has and as for you, I pray that justice will prevail. Good Luck
KATHY

AOL

#12 Sep 5, 2008
Thank you so much,seen it first hand.But, I now people in high places,and Ive already talked to the FBI,about all of this ,and thats all I can say.But every dog has its day.
KATHY

AOL

#13 Sep 14, 2008
What is jail.Jail is a place where you write letters and can't think of anything to say.A place where you wait for letters that come less and less often...A place where you lost respect for the law ,because you see it raw,naked,twisted,bent,ingored ,and blown out of porportion to suit the people who enforce it...A place where it is proven that absolute power corrupts absolutetly.A place where you wait for a visit that doesn't happen and although you know the real reason,you have to accept the lies.A place where you learn that nobody needs you, you are a person forgotten,and the world goes on without you.A place where you discover that all of the talents and abilities you have are worthless,A place where you recieve your divorce papers and you learn the meaning of the words "TIL DEATH DO US PART",for to the outside world you are a dead person.A place that doesn't exist in the minds of friends,for they cannot put it on a envelope,nor can they find it in a car.A place that exists only in a time warp,for you are only remembered in past tense.and that's pobbably appropreate,for you can see no future. A place where days blend into weeks, months merge into years, and eons pass without feeling the touch of a human hand unless it is raised in anger. A place where a kind word and an affectionate touch are only dim memories. A place where basic humanity is ignored, discarded and eventually forgotten. A place where women are stripped of their cloths as well as their dignity, and hearded like the beasts society believes them to be. A place where you go to bed early, even when you're not tired, you walk in circles even though you have nowhere to go. and you pull the covers over your head, even though you're not cold. A place where escape is possible, but only through reading, dreaming, or just plain going mad. Can a woman survive and resume a useful life? If she can overcome the degradation that is heeped upon her,society will continue to remind her that she is tainted.does she deseverve what she got?Of course!A smug society can be assured that it has done the right and proper thing.Untill,,,circumstances,e rror,accidents or mistakes in the judical system flips the table and finf themselves in the cell next door!!!
whatajoke

Hollins, AL

#14 Sep 18, 2008
Chilton County needs to be a state of its own. I am so glad I got away from that place when I did. Have the balls to get out there and get the real criminals and leave the ones alone that are trying to do right by their families. I will never live in CHILTON COUNTY again not because of the people but because of the way the county is runned and who runs it. I have made 2 trips to that county in the past 5 years and was pulled over 3 times while there at which one time they searched my car because my eyes were red, HELL YEAH they were red red from crying because I had gotten a phone call that my grandmother was dying but he would not believe me. It pissed them off that they did not find anything so they kept me there on the side of the road for another hour asking me what i did with the drugs that was not in the car. I do not do drugs. By the time I got to the hospital my grandmother had passed. I have nothing for the sorry low life bastards. Karma is a bitch.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#15 Sep 19, 2008
Another satisfied citizen I see. I am sorry for your loss. It is such a shame that things like this happen in this county. It seems as though they target innocent people and those they need to be searching and harassing go untouched. It is all about who you are, who you know and how much money you have in this county and in the cities in this county as well. If you have EVER made a mistake, you better look out because they are going after you from now on. It disgusts me. There is no justice in the justice system in this county. It definitely is a joke.
georgia now

Sylvania, GA

#16 Sep 26, 2008
chilton county,lol is soooooooo far behind in times!they have always had a screwed up justice system,but if u got money u can pay your way outta anything!!!!alot of uneducated idiots running the county.use to live there and glad i moved away!!!!!!!!!!
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#17 Sep 29, 2008
AMEN
KATHY

AOL

#18 Sep 30, 2008
Thanks for all the info,but i would like to know is why nothing has ever been done to change things.i'am working on it but its hard i'am not from chilton county.
seen it first hand

Pell City, AL

#19 Oct 3, 2008
I wish I could answer that question completely. I am not from Chilton County either. The people at that courthouse are like a click. The judges eat lunch with the attorneys who try cases before them. The judges make up the rules as they go along and God help anyone who tries to bring in an outsider because it is an automatic loss. It is truly surreal if you have not witnessed it. I have contacted the bar to no avail. If you have any suggestions as to how to do anything, I would welcome them. I have campaigned against these judges, but they have been in power for so long that people just don't know the truth and continue to vote for them again. They do not follow the law or precedence, they rule by what they want and who knows them. There is one new lawyer from Chilton county who has been fired from every police force in the county I believe, fired from his sales job for stealing (prior to law school) and had to flee his office in the middle of the night and now he is teaching a class at the police academy. There is no accountability in this place. These type of judges need to be removed from office though along with their support staff. They have become too powerful and do not follow the law. I empathize with you. Good Luck and please keep it posted.
KATHY

AOL

#20 Oct 6, 2008
I would like to know this persons name. If you would tell me.

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