Deputies net $25K in drugs on I-295

May 9, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Hopewell News

When Deputies Sean Godwin and Ron Frashure of the Hopewell Sheriff's office caught an out-of-state rental car traveling 13 miles per hour above the posted 70 mph speed limit on I-295,they may have anticipated writing a ticket or two.

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Looks like the deputes on 295 might have stopped these drugs from getting into your kids hands
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May 9, 2011
 
How do you figure. They had no intention of stopping in Hopewell.

Not the job of a Sheriff department and for sure not any justification for them being up on 295.

The truth is that we are putting our Sheriff Deputties in harms way and their training does not warrant them getting shot to death.

Only a matter of time and we will have a Deputy shot to death on 295. Then the money raising will look insignificant compared to the life lost!
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May 10, 2011
 
INTERESTED wrote:
How do you figure. They had no intention of stopping in Hopewell.
Not the job of a Sheriff department and for sure not any justification for them being up on 295.
The truth is that we are putting our Sheriff Deputties in harms way and their training does not warrant them getting shot to death.
Only a matter of time and we will have a Deputy shot to death on 295. Then the money raising will look insignificant compared to the life lost!
Very well said.

The Deputies radio traffic is only monitored by their office during business hours. Most of the time during the lunch breaks and off hours they are not even checking, through NCIC/VCIN. plates or DLs. They only check if they "feel" something is not right. Stopping the wrong vehicle without proper backup is going to lead to major problems for the city. Granted, the Deputies are all certified law enforcement officers, but we have to ask, are they getting all the thorough training they would receive with a Police Agency?
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Who's got the key(s) to the evidence room this time???
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Well it seems that everyone in this city seems to think taht they can do the Sheriffs job better than he can, well let me remind all of you dumbass who hasnt figured it out yet he did run unapposed..

And I'm sure those deputies were in the city of Hopewell, or they would not have stopped the car at all, and in making that stop they may have even saved your life by slowing that car down and arresting those drug dealers.

Does anyones training warrant being shot to death?

Maybe not today or tomorrow but rest assured the drugs are getting here from somewhere. "Not the job of the sheriff office". It AMAZES me everyone knows the "job of the sheriff office". State code requires that the sheriff uphold the laws of the commonwealth.(LOOK IT UP). Do you think after 10,000 or more tickets someone would have at least put fourth the effort to challenge this if the Sheriff was in the wrong.(GET OVER IT). Sheriff deputys have always had authoritys and jurisdiction. Heaven forbib that a Sheriffs Deputy gets shot in 295 the sad part is if it happened people like you would lesson the sacrafic by the officer or officers with the little petty stuff like it all being about the money and stupid little crap like that. Have you ever taken a moment and thought that out of all the vehicles running 80, 90, or 100+ mph on 295, if only one slows down after being stopped and written a ticket, then mission accomplished. I know that all the 295 deputies are very well trained, and 90% of them are from other police departments around the city with 200 combined years of service in law enforcement. I would put up any one Sheriffs deputy to any Police officer, and I'm sure they would match him step-for-step.
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Hoss, you are an unknowing nut.

The deputies on 295 are not even made to keep their certifications current. Judge Nye does not care. Their radar guns are not kept current. In the beginning, they were rent a cops from Defense General Supply.

The car they stppped had already passed Hopewell and was on 295 not in the real city, only in the 1.5 mile interstate part of the city. You tell me who owns the interstate? Not Hopewell!

We have a police department that by law must do the criminial aspects of the law and the powers of the police and Sheriff's department was voted on by the citizens to be split. Sheriff's department does not do criminal work in cities and areas where the citizens voted on splitting the powers.

If they have overlapping powers, then why should we not just collapse the Police department.

It is only about the money and when one of my friends get killed in the line of duty up on 295, then their blood will be on city council!

I do not like drugs anywhere, but I am tired of all the litttle poor youths being put in jail just because they want to get high, while the big boys are protected by the judges.

Write tickets, put all the little guys in jail but never clean up the city! That is what we have here in Hopewell!

Remember, when the Sheriff sold city council on this fund raising scheme, they said in Suffolk, VA. that 85% of the people sent in their fines and never came to court.

Cheap money! Shows our city has no character!
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Hoss,

You are correct that the Sheriff by Code has the authority and the responsibility to uphold all Laws of the Commonwealth and can give those powers to his Deputies. I have no problem with the Deputies that run radar on 295, as long as they are certified police officer's. If any of those deputies, 10% by your statement, only have a Courtroom Security/ Jailer/ Civil Process Certification then they do not have all the training they need to conduct traffic stops.

If they are certified law enforcement officers then they do have the training. I do however question if their radar certifications are current or if they are even radar certified. Do they calibrate the radar units daily and keep a record of the radar machine certification with the court as is required by Code.

I have no doubt that many of these deputies training can stack up to police officers training, but I can assure you that their officer safety skills are lacking. Not calling in your traffic stop and running information through VCIN/NCIC seriously lacks public safety let alone officer safety.

When you (yes you, it is obvious you are one of them running radar) are running radar for the sole purpose of revenue and not public safety, then that is a problem. Interested is correct in the fact that it is a matter of time before you or one of your deputy buddies are found dead on the Interstate, due to the lack of your officer safety. You should have learned officer safety in the police academy. I guess over the 200+ years of you and your buddies experience you all forgot about officer safety. I do know some of them that run radar on 295 and happen to know that they were taught better then that, but then again a couple of them left law enforcement to become fire fighters. They just like to keep the LE certification current and play cop know and then.

Since you like the code so much look up what the primary job of a city Sheriff is, then tell someone that they do not know the Sheriff's job. I know what the main function of a city sheriff is and as I said before, you are correct that he/she shall uphold all the laws of the Commonwealth, given them the authority to run radar on 295.

I will say that if the deputy had not smelled marijuana when he approached the vehicle he would have stroked the driver a summons or two and let him on his way, because his main function on 295 is to run radar/write tickets, not catch drug dealers.

Kudos to the deputy for getting the drug dealers and drugs off the street.

How many wanted, missing or endangered persons, stolen vehicles, etc. etc. have been written a ticket and then let go, all because they couldn't be bothered to run the information through VCIN/NCIC? We may never know.
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FOREST GUMP WELL I WILL SAY THIS. I DO THINK THEY ARE ALL CERTIFIED. AS FAR AS GETTING SLACK IN THEIR JOB PERFORMANCE,WELL I CANT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT,EXCEPT ITS NOT ALL OF THEM IM SURE
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THIS IS FOR ALL YOU OTHER SO CALLED PEPS OF HOPEWELL,WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAT WORRY ABOUT THE SHERIFFS OFFICE IS DOING OR NOT DOING,ONE SURE THING ABOUT HOPEWELL IS THAT IT IS SLAMMED FULL OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING AND WANT EVERYBODY TO BELIEVE THAT THEY KNOW EVERYTHING,BUT WHEN IT COME DOWN TO IT.THEY DON"T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING,AND ARE PROBLEY EX EMPLOYEES OR SPOUSES OF EX EMPLOYEES WHOS SERVICES WERE NO LONGER NEEDED BY THE NOW LOVED SHERIFF IN OFFICE...GET OVER IT...CANT WE ALL GET ALONG
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OK Hoss, AKA Greg, you sure do think allot of yourself. Maybe I for one do happen to know a little more about LE then the average bear. Beloved Sheriff of Hopewell??? Only in your own mind. I may not know Jack shit as you say but probably know the Code of Virginia as amended in 1956 than you do. That is pretty sad considering that you are the Sheriff.

Give them hell Greg. Keep up the good work. Thank you for informing me that all of your deputy's running radar on 295 are certified. What about the other certifications that I mentioned? Radar calibration?

If I am an ex employee or spouse of an ex employee ( Who never worked for you by the way) I would think that after such a long time that person would have been over it several years ago, besides they just might be better of now then before.

I for one have plenty to do than to worry about what you Greg or your ticket writing cadre are doing. You could do something about your deputies slack job performance, you are the Sheriff for Christ's sake, get them straight. Or is it just that you do not know any better because you have never been to a police academy?

I do not claim to know everything, after all I am not stuck up a Circuit Court Judges ass as some people are.

Besides maybe the next time you see me face to face you will have the balls to look at me.

It is amazing what you can catch with a little bait.
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Hoss writes:

Maybe not today or tomorrow but rest assured the drugs are getting here from somewhere. "Not the job of the sheriff office". It AMAZES me everyone knows the "job of the sheriff office". State code requires that the sheriff uphold the laws of the commonwealth.

Code requires the same of the Judges, but it does not seem that they care about the code?

Obama is also required to up-hold the Constitution...it does not seem to bother him at all!

The Constitution has become a sick joke in our society!

If you really believe that is your job, then run radar all over town!

Make some drug busts!

Arrest corrupt cops!

You are not doing your job if you are letting the police do it for you.

You know very well that the powers were split when the city had to vote on allowing a police department to be formed.

You are in the business of raising money so you can buy more cars and toys.

If safety was the goal, you would not have unmarked cars up on 295.

More visibility would be great, but you are only inteested in fund raising for the Judges!

Admit it you are making Hopewell a speed trap only because of the greed of those in authority.
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Everybody needs to Hoss ridding....YEE...HAW
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There is no more of a chance of these deputies being shot on 295 doing a traffic stop then there is a Hopewell officer doing a traffic stop on cedar level rd. Location doesn't matter. Traffic stops are the most dangerous part of any officers jobs. I know at least 4 of the deputies doing traffic stops are former police officers from other jurisdiction. All of them have been through the police academy and passed it. The ones that haven't or are not able to are the ones that work at the court house or serve warrants. They are not certified therefor they are not able to perform traffic stops. They calabriate there radars every day. ALl this involves is hitting 2 metal pieces together and checking if the mph on the metal things is the same reading that the radar reads. I do belive they have a ride along program. I think some of you should sign up to ride. Then you can actualy see how they perform there job and not just go by hear say. Hell im sure they wouldnt mind hearing some suggestions on how to do there job better. Being that you all seem to be experts on this field.
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let the party begin
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OK Idiot, what about the certificate of accuracy? When is it done and how long is it good for. Is it readily available in court? Does it just pertain to the radar device? Do the tinning forks need to be calibrated? Just asking since I am an idiot and do not know anything.

Yes, the deputies on 295 have the same chance of being shot as an officer on Cedar Level. One major difference is that the officer on Cedar Level calls his traffic stop in to dispatch with a description of the vehicle stopped and tag number of the vehicle and number of occupants. They do this for their safety and so that if something happens to them their fellow LE officers will have information to start looking for that vehicle.

The deputies on 295 do not always do this. Not only is the vehicle information good in case that something happens to the officer/deputy on a traffic stop, but just maybe that vehicle is stolen or is wanted in connection to some other crime.

I am looking more at the officer safety aspect of what they are doing, not the fact that they are running radar on 295. It just seems to me that no one cares about the deputies safety as long as the money keeps rolling in. The emphases is on writing tickets not safety.

Maybe since no one else cares about their safety (including them) then I shouldn't either. I would just hate to see one of them seriously hurt when it may have been avoidable. As you yourself stated, traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things a Law Enforcement Officer can do. Outside of vehicle accidents and responding to domestic violence calls, traffic stops kill more officer's then other law enforcement functions. So maybe they should put a little more emphases on their safety then they do.

But yet YOU think I am the idiot. Oh buy the the "two pieces of metal" or the "metal things" are called Tunning Forks, yet I am the idiot.
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Ive listened to the scanner and heard the deputies call in a plate before to get no response from dispatch.
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Is it when they radio into the Sheriff's Office or into HPD? Are they on the Sheriff's frequency or the PD's? I've heard them call in on the Sheriff's frequency (after hours) trying to call the PD.

I have heard the Police dispatchers try to call them on the radio and get no response. Did that mean no one was listening or that they were not on the same frequency?

I have even heard dispatch try to give them returns after they have asked for them and get no response from them. I have heard it both ways.

The point is the deputies do not call in every stop they make. They only call in if they feel like it.
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HOSS wrote:
Well it seems that everyone in this city seems to think taht they can do the Sheriffs job better than he can, well let me remind all of you dumbass who hasnt figured it out yet he did run unapposed..
And I'm sure those deputies were in the city of Hopewell, or they would not have stopped the car at all, and in making that stop they may have even saved your life by slowing that car down and arresting those drug dealers.
Does anyones training warrant being shot to death?
Maybe not today or tomorrow but rest assured the drugs are getting here from somewhere. "Not the job of the sheriff office". It AMAZES me everyone knows the "job of the sheriff office". State code requires that the sheriff uphold the laws of the commonwealth.(LOOK IT UP). Do you think after 10,000 or more tickets someone would have at least put fourth the effort to challenge this if the Sheriff was in the wrong.(GET OVER IT). Sheriff deputys have always had authoritys and jurisdiction. Heaven forbib that a Sheriffs Deputy gets shot in 295 the sad part is if it happened people like you would lesson the sacrafic by the officer or officers with the little petty stuff like it all being about the money and stupid little crap like that. Have you ever taken a moment and thought that out of all the vehicles running 80, 90, or 100+ mph on 295, if only one slows down after being stopped and written a ticket, then mission accomplished. I know that all the 295 deputies are very well trained, and 90% of them are from other police departments around the city with 200 combined years of service in law enforcement. I would put up any one Sheriffs deputy to any Police officer, and I'm sure they would match him step-for-step.
About like the deputy serving the warrant? Dude didn't want it and mr. deputy got the pee whupped out of him....good ole dopewell police department had to straighten that out. Sheriff -1 hpd 1
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If you think that the officers have just as much chance of getting shot in Hopewell than up on 295, you are the idiot.

You tell me who has a greater chance of getting shot, a local officer who writes 10 to 20 traffic stop tickets from using radar a month or the one on 295 who write 250 to 300 tickets a month. Hello!

A regular police officer has to be certified ever so often to write radar tickets by the local police policy regulations and the radar guns themselves have to checked ever so often.

None of this applies since the Sheriff's department doesn't have any written policy and the crooked judges do not care nor do they enforce the law that requires these certifications.
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Forest Gump wrote:
OK Hoss, AKA Greg, you sure do think allot of yourself. Maybe I for one do happen to know a little more about LE then the average bear. Beloved Sheriff of Hopewell??? Only in your own mind. I may not know Jack shit as you say but probably know the Code of Virginia as amended in 1956 than you do. That is pretty sad considering that you are the Sheriff.
Give them hell Greg. Keep up the good work. Thank you for informing me that all of your deputy's running radar on 295 are certified. What about the other certifications that I mentioned? Radar calibration?
If I am an ex employee or spouse of an ex employee ( Who never worked for you by the way) I would think that after such a long time that person would have been over it several years ago, besides they just might be better of now then before.
I for one have plenty to do than to worry about what you Greg or your ticket writing cadre are doing. You could do something about your deputies slack job performance, you are the Sheriff for Christ's sake, get them straight. Or is it just that you do not know any better because you have never been to a police academy?
I do not claim to know everything, after all I am not stuck up a Circuit Court Judges ass as some people are.
Besides maybe the next time you see me face to face you will have the balls to look at me.
It is amazing what you can catch with a little bait.
Forest, if Hoss is the Sheriff of Hopewell, as you claim, the people of Hopewell should be ashamed that they have a somewhat illiterate person representing them. I would hope that when he does official communication that he has somebody with a better grasp of the English language to write his letters. This person, called Hoss, has the English language skill of a tenth grade student.

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