Jr. Pro Basketball

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Parent of a Player

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Jan 2, 2010
 

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I have watched Jr. Pro basketball for 3 years in Ashland City, Tennessee. It's unreasonable why the same players who get to participate in football are the same players who get to participate in basketball, and baseball. You can sign your child up and pay to have him play, but unless your someone who hangs out with the in crowd I can guarantee that your child will be the one on the bench. The Ashland City Wildcats have succeeded in one thing. They know how to deter the love of the game for a child. They just never let them in the game. I discovered if you as a parent are not the coach of the team, a good friend of the coach or the commissioner your child is considered second rate and might play 30 seconds a game, but that is all they feel he/she is worthy of participating. Youth sports is about teamwork and being a part of that team. A child will never be a part of the team if the coaches and commissioners never allow that child to play, therefore killing the love of the game. The youth of today need to be a part of a team to feel equal and accepted as one of the gang. That is not how it goes down and I have watched from the bleachers for 3 years now. If you say anything they just pass it off as you being one of those parents. Well guess what I am one of those parents. I see kids in the game throwing tantrums, calling other players names, with total disregard for sportsmanship. When the coach does decide to put your child in for that brief moment of time usually less than 30 seconds embrace it because it comes around only once in awhile. My thing is I can't understand why the School District who is allowing the teams to use the school gyms, do nothing. If school sports are to boost a child's morale why have coaches who do nothing but crush it. Our children learn from our behavior if an adult treats children like they aren't good enough, then no wonder their children act just like them.
bluefan89

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Feb 8, 2010
 
I know what you mean...I am in Middle TN., but it is still bad here. However on the Jr. pro every 4 min. a complete line up has to change so every child plays like a half of basketball (4- 8 min. quarters).

Youth baseball is horrible here...got to be a coach's suck up to be in the good ole boys club.

I think it is unavoidable and is everywhere from small town USA to the big city.
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My son played for Kingston Springs in the Cheatham Junior Pro league for 3 years also. The coaches are unpaid volunteers and give much of their time to developing young players. Our coach was not a commissioner, council member or anything else. Just a nice guy who stepped forward to try and teach the kids. Parents were rude and unforgiving while he did his best to work with the kids and give each a chance. The people who run the leagues are also dedicated and spent a ridiculous amount of time to making it as good as it can be for the kids. The schools do NOTHING to help with the league. NOTHING. They only reap the benefits with donations that are raised in concessions and gate. In fact, in Kingston Springs, the league put in a new gym floor for the school. Was the district going to pay for that? I think not.

It is a competitive league. That message is sent loud and clear at signups. If you want to play recreation ball, then this is not the league for you. Take your child to play at WSNL or one of the many very well-run church leagues. My son is one of those kids who did always start for his team - not because he knew the coach or had any family on the board, but because he worked hard to develop his skills and wanted to excel. Life isn't a box a chocolates and everything is not fair and equal. These kids want to compete and win. They are old enough to understand winning and losing. Teaching them that everything is equal in life is nothing but a disservice and will soon turn to disappointment when they find out that everything won't be a "participation trophy" and they actually have to work hard to succeed.

This league also has other benefits. It is a unique league that allows kids who will play together in middle and high school to begin building chemistry as well as develop fundamentally together. This allows them to compete with much bigger schools.

In summary, don't let Parent of a Player give Cheatham County Jr. Pro League a bad name.
JrProtimes 2

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I think somewhere in the middle is about right.
I'm on my second Kingston Springs Cardinal player. The first one had a great experience and had fun playing for what he considered his school team. He started and played a lot. In his 3 years the Cardinals were 33-3 losing only to Pleasant View. When they played the weaker teams in their age group, the starters hardly played. His coach used those games to get the rest of the team good playing time. I'd say the regular season minutes averaged out such that 8-10 guys had similar minutes and the other 2 or 3 didn't have quite as much. Everybody contributed for the team and on the stat sheet.
That Jr. Pro success translated to middle school where the same group of guys plus Pegram won the TMSSAA mid state sectional tournament for their division. They lost 1 game as 7th graders and maybe 3 in the 8th grade. There's one kid from Kingston Springs that played 4 years of high school basketball and none from Pegram.
The morale of this story is that the basketball world outside of Cheatham County and the 2 middle school districts our kids compete in is not as big a deal as we'd like to think it is when our kids are in 4th, 5th and 6th grade. Coaches first and parents secondly, need to keep that in perspective. It's competitive to a point, yes, but there are bigger basketball dogs around the corner. Believe me. Players should have fun, learn about competitiveness, sportsmanship and being a good teammate. Parents should sit in the stands and cheer on all of the players and respect the decisions of the coach. The coach has tough enough time trying to work his volunteer schedule around his family and what he does for a living most of the time to try to put a premature end to some Jr. Pro phenom's college chances.
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Good comments "Another View"...I coached Jr. Pro at West Cheatham for several years and wanted the kids to gain a life lesson from their experience in our program. We won more than we lost and the kids learned life lessons in the meantime. I had my favorite players, the ones who cared to learn in practice, take what they learned home and improve their games there, and worked hard on the florr during the games as well as practice. My players earned their playing time, not by their names but by their efforts.
Donald Gayle

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Jul 14, 2011
 
I understand how you feel ,i was one of the kids. You pay all the money and spend a lot of time , getting your kids back and forth just to be disapointed.The coach has one thing on his mind [WIN,WIN,WIN].He wo'nt get his money next yr. if he does'nt win. If i become a coach every child will have equal playing time, but understand when kids get into Highschool it becomes different, decause Collage scouts are looking. This does'nt portain to te lower schools. I will not allow a kid to play longer than another,because it is about learning and how to play with what we have. I was MVP for my school in 1982 and no one gave me anything , because i'm not the coaches son , and i did'nt belong to any group. I just worked harder for myself, because i knew that is what it would take for me to make me and my parents happy.Thats all that matters. I would like to help anyone that feels like you do .LETS TALK ca'nt hert [djames02@hotmail.com], I have always wanted to be a coach or have a Basketball camp to help people that feelthis way.
notsurprised

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Oct 7, 2011
 
Well, after reading these comments I know where my child WILL NOT play. As a coach of another sport. I think it is rude and sets a bad example to play favorites. Every kid deserves the same respect, time, and attention to learn the sport. For those of you that say its about winning, disgust me. Glad my child will be no where around you.
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Aug 30, 2012
 
notsurprised wrote:
Well, after reading these comments I know where my child WILL NOT play. As a coach of another sport. I think it is rude and sets a bad example to play favorites. Every kid deserves the same respect, time, and attention to learn the sport. For those of you that say its about winning, disgust me. Glad my child will be no where around you.
I think that's the right choice. There are rec leagues where minutes are dispersed equally no matter the talent and no matter the results. Those are great for some kids. Jr. Pro is for developing talent and rewarding the ones that work the hardest with the most minutes. They have tryouts. Every kid that tries out doesn't make it. Some that make it one year and don't improve don't make it the next. My experience has been that the coaches kids are typically better because their parents work with them on improving. If you don't have a goal in your yard or it's not being used, your kid isn't a gym rat working on his shot all of the time and then you expect equal playing time when the season gets here, you're delusional. You are not going to improve your free throws by sitting on the sofa playing the video version and you shouldn't be surprised that the kids shooting a couple hundred shots a day are the ones playing.
Now, it doesn't necessarily translate to high school superstar and college recruit. It is over emphasized by some parents in that regard. Youth sports develops character and work ethic and teamwork. The great thing about a competitive league is if you don't like your playing time, you can work hard and improve your situation. That incentive is not there in a socialized equal minutes no matter what type atmosphere.
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Feb 4, 2014
 
Another View wrote:
My son played for Kingston Springs in the Cheatham Junior Pro league for 3 years also. The coaches are unpaid volunteers and give much of their time to developing young players. Our coach was not a commissioner, council member or anything else. Just a nice guy who stepped forward to try and teach the kids. Parents were rude and unforgiving while he did his best to work with the kids and give each a chance. The people who run the leagues are also dedicated and spent a ridiculous amount of time to making it as good as it can be for the kids. The schools do NOTHING to help with the league. NOTHING. They only reap the benefits with donations that are raised in concessions and gate. In fact, in Kingston Springs, the league put in a new gym floor for the school. Was the district going to pay for that? I think not.
It is a competitive league. That message is sent loud and clear at signups. If you want to play recreation ball, then this is not the league for you. Take your child to play at WSNL or one of the many very well-run church leagues. My son is one of those kids who did always start for his team - not because he knew the coach or had any family on the board, but because he worked hard to develop his skills and wanted to excel. Life isn't a box a chocolates and everything is not fair and equal. These kids want to compete and win. They are old enough to understand winning and losing. Teaching them that everything is equal in life is nothing but a disservice and will soon turn to disappointment when they find out that everything won't be a "participation trophy" and they actually have to work hard to succeed.
This league also has other benefits. It is a unique league that allows kids who will play together in middle and high school to begin building chemistry as well as develop fundamentally together. This allows them to compete with much bigger schools.
In summary, don't let Parent of a Player give Cheatham County Jr. Pro League a bad name.
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