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Students learn hard lesson in school budgets

There are 14 comments on the www.msnbc.msn.com story from Aug 12, 2008, titled Students learn hard lesson in school budgets. In it, www.msnbc.msn.com reports that:

In a survey of 546 local superintendents late last month by the American Association of School Administrators, 99 percent said rising costs and shrinking budgets were hurting their school systems.

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AmazedInNM

Farmington, NM

#1 Aug 12, 2008
At this rate, we will all be "home schooling" within a few years.
clone benson

Bryan, OH

#2 Aug 12, 2008
when i went to school,in 1960 and up,they been saying this for years, scummy boards of education,kill intelligence thats there motto
The Old Coach

Austin, TX

#3 Aug 12, 2008
Let's see, get rid of the superintendents 6 figure salaries, 5 figure perks not including their Lexus, Cadillac or Linclon town cars provided by the school districts and we could save a bundle for the kids!!
Federalist Papers

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Aug 12, 2008
Quit giving teachers increases. They are govt. employees and their has to be a top to it somewhere. Once you hit the max amount of pay then that is all she wrote.

“Yes We Did!”

Since: Jun 08

Stoughton

#5 Aug 12, 2008
In districts where the funding IS available, there are budget caps. Even where they could raise the money they aren't allowed to. The problem is it ultimately destroys the economy even more. If you don't have a properly educated populace and work force, how will they become productive members of society. How can America compete in the global marketplace with an undereducated work force? The answer is that we won't. Those with less education make less money, don't buy homes, and pay less in taxes, which adds to the budget deficit. It's a downward spiral. I'd suggest cutting sports first but unfortunately the money from home games is the only extra income some schools get. Our whole school system needs restructering and a new focus. Teachers should be getting paid much more across the board. Those that lay the foundation for our children, those that teach our children how to learn well, and to read should be held high on our shoulders. That responsible they hold shouldn't be minimalized.
Federalist Papers

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Aug 13, 2008
Truepatriot_Luke2236 wrote:
In districts where the funding IS available, there are budget caps. Even where they could raise the money they aren't allowed to. The problem is it ultimately destroys the economy even more. If you don't have a properly educated populace and work force, how will they become productive members of society. How can America compete in the global marketplace with an undereducated work force? The answer is that we won't. Those with less education make less money, don't buy homes, and pay less in taxes, which adds to the budget deficit. It's a downward spiral. I'd suggest cutting sports first but unfortunately the money from home games is the only extra income some schools get. Our whole school system needs restructering and a new focus. Teachers should be getting paid much more across the board. Those that lay the foundation for our children, those that teach our children how to learn well, and to read should be held high on our shoulders. That responsible they hold shouldn't be minimalized.
Something is wrong with your thought process. We spend more per child than any other country in the world. On top of that, teachers do not deserve more pay across the board. The fact is they are paid very well for working 9 months out of the year plus with their generous pensions.

“Yes We Did!”

Since: Jun 08

Stoughton

#7 Aug 13, 2008
Federalist Papers wrote:
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Something is wrong with your thought process. We spend more per child than any other country in the world. On top of that, teachers do not deserve more pay across the board. The fact is they are paid very well for working 9 months out of the year plus with their generous pensions.
You know, in a handful of states teachers make 17,000/year to start and are expected to pay for classroom materials out of pocket, which they may not have to pay taxes on, but that is little consolation. Pensions are granted if you are part of the teachers union, or happen to work at the same school for 40 years, which doesn't seem to happen much these days. We pay more per child in this country because, if you haven't noticed, our money isn't worth quite as much these days and the system is so unbalanced and chaotic that there is no way to save money without cutting teachers and programs. You must have hated your teachers to think that they didn't deserve everything they were paid and more. Without them you wouldn't have had enough education to get a job and earn the money to buy a computer and have the time to use it... did your teacher spank you??? Are you just angry about your childhood?
Federalist Papers

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Aug 13, 2008
Truepatriot_Luke2236 wrote:
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You know, in a handful of states teachers make 17,000/year to start and are expected to pay for classroom materials out of pocket, which they may not have to pay taxes on, but that is little consolation. Pensions are granted if you are part of the teachers union, or happen to work at the same school for 40 years, which doesn't seem to happen much these days. We pay more per child in this country because, if you haven't noticed, our money isn't worth quite as much these days and the system is so unbalanced and chaotic that there is no way to save money without cutting teachers and programs. You must have hated your teachers to think that they didn't deserve everything they were paid and more. Without them you wouldn't have had enough education to get a job and earn the money to buy a computer and have the time to use it... did your teacher spank you??? Are you just angry about your childhood?
Incorrect, all figures are adjusted for inflation. Also in the midwest the median wage for teachers is $45,791 a year. Way above your crazy figure of $17,000. Also just because you think teachers are paid well does not mean you did not like them. They are employees just like everyone else who works for the govt. The old teachers union trick is to make you feel bad for criticizing their pay. That dog will not hunt. Teachers are on the same level as any other person who does a job , no better or worse. Their pay should be based upon performance of their students , not the number of years you can hide out in the school to get tenure.
clone benson

Bryan, OH

#9 Aug 13, 2008
they been doing this for years,even when i went to school, kids are still not geting the education they need,but i did notice teacher salaries always went up,, but we came out dumber more than ever , go figure
Guess Who

Las Vegas, NV

#10 Aug 14, 2008
AmazedInNM wrote:
At this rate, we will all be "home schooling" within a few years.
With the cost of living rising the teachers are having a hard time with the wage also..The economy effects everything and homeschooling is an option...I know a family with 5 children who homeschooled all their children and they all score in the high 90's on testing....
Guess Who

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Aug 14, 2008
Home schooled children can learn at an individual pace rather that a herd pace...
Guess Who

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Aug 14, 2008
In Las Vegas Henderson the cost of living does not match the civil servants wage....
Guess Who

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Aug 14, 2008
They are sure building some pretty pricey schools...
Guess Who

Las Vegas, NV

#14 Aug 14, 2008
I think children are probably more concerned with their safty than learning the ABC's....

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