Priest barred from performing mass at SC jail

May 24, 2012 Full story: The Island Packet 12

A Catholic priest has been barred from performing mass for Charleston County jail inmates for refusing to use grape juice instead of wine in the sacrament.

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Santobello

North Charleston, SC

#1 May 24, 2012
I knew the Monsignor a few years ago and he seemed like a decent chap. I wonder what the jail's policy is toward other religion's wine usage?
fairness

Charleston, SC

#2 Jun 2, 2012
alcohol is contraband in prison regardless of religion. To give the catholic church permission to bring alcohol into a prison would not only be favoritism, Every inmate would convert just so they can have a taste of wine. If he refuses to do mass in jail then it is not needed.

“Boot to the Head”

Since: Jul 08

Mogadore, OH

#3 Jun 2, 2012
fairness wrote:
alcohol is contraband in prison regardless of religion. To give the catholic church permission to bring alcohol into a prison would not only be favoritism, Every inmate would convert just so they can have a taste of wine. If he refuses to do mass in jail then it is not needed.
You are missing the point. The priest only needs a visible quantity (less than a shot worth) for Mass. Only the priest need consume it. Mass is invalid without it and it has been allowed in the past.

So it is not what the priest refuses to do but rather what cannot be done without at least a tiny quantity of wine.
m0lestedbypriest

Charleston, SC

#4 Jun 4, 2012
Cathoholic wrote:
<quoted text>
You are missing the point. The priest only needs a visible quantity (less than a shot worth) for Mass. Only the priest need consume it. Mass is invalid without it and it has been allowed in the past.
So it is not what the priest refuses to do but rather what cannot be done without at least a tiny quantity of wine.
alcohol is contraband in prison any visible quantity is not allowed.
If the crooks want to have mass with wine they should not have gotten convicted of a crime that put them in prison. The priest can consume the wine before he enters the prison boundary if it is that important.

“Boot to the Head”

Since: Jul 08

Mogadore, OH

#5 Jun 5, 2012
m0lestedbypriest wrote:
<quoted text>
alcohol is contraband in prison any visible quantity is not allowed.
If the crooks want to have mass with wine they should not have gotten convicted of a crime that put them in prison. The priest can consume the wine before he enters the prison boundary if it is that important.
It is not possible to do it that way. The bread and wine must be consecrated together.

It is not the end of the world either way.

However, to a Catholic the Liturgy of the Mass is the most important prayer. These men, a small percentage of them certainly innocent, may be seeking to rehabilitate their lives before reentering society. From a Catholic point of view grace is given in the reception of communion and the prayers of the Mass (among other things).

I believe it is a good thing for these men (or women) to participate in Mass. I am sure exceptions can be made. I've seen it done in max security prisons for more dangerous things.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#6 Jun 5, 2012
2:24 pm, Tuesday, June 5, 2012:
RE: Priest barred from performing mass at SC jail
..... I am reminded that Jesus never celebrated a mass, nor even attended one. Those who claim that they are following Jesus should not follow any practices and teachings that were invented after Jesus had been crucified.

“Boot to the Head”

Since: Jul 08

Mogadore, OH

#7 Jun 6, 2012
QUITTNER wrote:
2:24 pm, Tuesday, June 5, 2012:
...Those who claim that they are following Jesus should not follow any practices and teachings that were invented after Jesus had been crucified.
As in the Trinity, which books are in the Bible and all those other "inventions"?
paul shykora arts

Calgary, Canada

#8 Jun 6, 2012
..juice..wine..eh...
paul shykora arts

Calgary, Canada

#10 Jun 6, 2012
...I's ''knew'' the REAL Oral Roberts...real..
problem solved

Charleston, SC

#11 Jun 8, 2012
The problem is now solved, they found a new priest to do mass that wont try to violate the law by bringing alcohol into a prison.

That wasn't so hard they just removed the whiny little asshat from performing mass.
Pax et Bonum

Uniontown, OH

#12 Jun 8, 2012
QUITTNER wrote:
2:24 pm, Tuesday, June 5, 2012:
RE: Priest barred from performing mass at SC jail
..... I am reminded that Jesus never celebrated a mass, nor even attended one. Those who claim that they are following Jesus should not follow any practices and teachings that were invented after Jesus had been crucified.
So we should rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem and go back to sacrificing animals?
jenky

Charleston, SC

#14 Jun 9, 2012
They can always ferment human fecal waste and make jenkem. Christianity is just made up shyt anyway. and how many of the priests are in there for fondling kids anyways?

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