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Since: Jun 07

Orangeburg, SC

#1 Dec 28, 2007
And we wonder what is wrong with our nation.......

Does the word ILLEGAL mean anything? This should not even be an issue since they should never be hired in the first place!

rwwllms

“If you can't be a good example”

Since: Mar 07

be a warning

#2 Dec 28, 2007
Its time for another Revolution. The Government just doesn't listen to the TRUE Americans any more. The ones who work hard all our lives just to have the Government take it all away and give to the illegals and welfare parsites. Unfair and Unequal taxation needs to stop. George Bush is no different than King George. It's past time for a change. We need to take the country back from the big corporations and the politicians who are nothing more than lackeys for the corporations. get rid of the idiot judges and bring back the Constitution.
Bart Simpson

Hopkins, SC

#4 Dec 28, 2007
rwwllms wrote:
Its time for another Revolution. The Government just doesn't listen to the TRUE Americans any more. The ones who work hard all our lives just to have the Government take it all away and give to the illegals and welfare parsites. Unfair and Unequal taxation needs to stop. George Bush is no different than King George. It's past time for a change. We need to take the country back from the big corporations and the politicians who are nothing more than lackeys for the corporations. get rid of the idiot judges and bring back the Constitution.
If they are working, how are they welfare parasites? If they are working, then they are paying taxes ( the taxes are being withheld just like anyone else) Whether they are illegal, or legal doesn't matter to people like you. You just hate anyone who is not a Redneck like yourself. You hate white people like myself, because I am not a southern bred redneck...I am a dignified, educated, hard-working YANKEE who kicked your all's azzes...you all are just jealous and mad because you can't have it your way...( laying back and watching the black man make you rich). If anyone is lazy it is the REDNECK!
guess who

Columbia, SC

#5 Dec 28, 2007
It doesn't even cross their stupid minds, when they hire illegals they are also breaking the law. They should pay if one of them is hurt on the job, But most of all, they should pay a fine, nothing less than $500.000.00 plus 6-months jail time.
Thomas Jefferson

Rochester, MN

#7 Dec 28, 2007
Constitutional law 101: non-residents should not receive the benefits of America's laws
customer

Irmo, SC

#8 Dec 28, 2007
well I have eaten at old an juan for the last time. Businesses who support illegals will not get a dime from me.
customer

Irmo, SC

#9 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
<quoted text>
If they are working, how are they welfare parasites? If they are working, then they are paying taxes ( the taxes are being withheld just like anyone else) Whether they are illegal, or legal doesn't matter to people like you. You just hate anyone who is not a Redneck like yourself. You hate white people like myself, because I am not a southern bred redneck...I am a dignified, educated, hard-working YANKEE who kicked your all's azzes...you all are just jealous and mad because you can't have it your way...( laying back and watching the black man make you rich). If anyone is lazy it is the REDNECK!
Illegals do NOT have taxes taken out idiot!!
Bart Simpson

Hopkins, SC

#10 Dec 28, 2007
customer wrote:
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Illegals do NOT have taxes taken out idiot!!
If they are on a payroll then they have taxes withheld...

I got this from www.tcf.org :

"Not that illegal workers pay no taxes. They all pay sales taxes and through rent, property taxes. Those whose jobs are “on the books,” using false Social Security numbers, also have income tax and payroll taxes withheld from every paycheck. Researchers estimate that 55%–60% of illegal immigrants are paid on the books. The proportion is higher in factories and service industries, lower in agriculture. Even the anti-immigration Center for Immigration Studies uses the figure 55% in its work. "

So yes, some actually do pay income taxes...as a matter of fact, since many do not file they don't even get their returns as they deserve.

Many illegals make less than $24,000 a year...another fact from www.tcf.org :

"Workers who earn so little pay very little income tax. We can be confident that a majority of illegal immigrants fall below the income threshold at which income taxes become significantly positive.(See John Maggs “The Vanishing Taxpayer,” National Journal, April 22, 2006)"

So, before you start running your mouth and calling me stupid, better do your homework...I always do, so you better be prepared when you debate with me...or you will look real stupid.
PRO MEXICAN

United States

#11 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
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If they are working, how are they welfare parasites? If they are working, then they are paying taxes ( the taxes are being withheld just like anyone else) Whether they are illegal, or legal doesn't matter to people like you. You just hate anyone who is not a Redneck like yourself. You hate white people like myself, because I am not a southern bred redneck...I am a dignified, educated, hard-working YANKEE who kicked your all's azzes...you all are just jealous and mad because you can't have it your way...( laying back and watching the black man make you rich). If anyone is lazy it is the REDNECK!
OH SHIP!SOMEONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS WHAT I WAS SAYING!!
SUNSHINE BEAR

United States

#13 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
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If they are on a payroll then they have taxes withheld...
I got this from www.tcf.org :
"Not that illegal workers pay no taxes. They all pay sales taxes and through rent, property taxes. Those whose jobs are “on the books,” using false Social Security numbers, also have income tax and payroll taxes withheld from every paycheck. Researchers estimate that 55%–60% of illegal immigrants are paid on the books. The proportion is higher in factories and service industries, lower in agriculture. Even the anti-immigration Center for Immigration Studies uses the figure 55% in its work. "
So yes, some actually do pay income taxes...as a matter of fact, since many do not file they don't even get their returns as they deserve.
Many illegals make less than $24,000 a year...another fact from www.tcf.org :
"Workers who earn so little pay very little income tax. We can be confident that a majority of illegal immigrants fall below the income threshold at which income taxes become significantly positive.(See John Maggs “The Vanishing Taxpayer,” National Journal, April 22, 2006)"
So, before you start running your mouth and calling me stupid, better do your homework...I always do, so you better be prepared when you debate with me...or you will look real stupid.
STARTING PAY FOR A TEACHER IN SC IS 21,000 MOST POLICE OFFICERS ONLY MAKE 24,000 SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?GO ASK THE GOVERMENT WHERE ALL THE MONEY GOES THAT IS WITHHELD ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.THEY CANT GET ANY OF IT BACK SO WHERE IS IT .SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE THE ONE LOOSING OUT.AIN"T THAT ENOUGH PUNISHMENT
Proud SC Citizen

Cheraw, SC

#15 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
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If they are working, how are they welfare parasites? If they are working, then they are paying taxes ( the taxes are being withheld just like anyone else) Whether they are illegal, or legal doesn't matter to people like you. You just hate anyone who is not a Redneck like yourself. You hate white people like myself, because I am not a southern bred redneck...I am a dignified, educated, hard-working YANKEE who kicked your all's azzes...you all are just jealous and mad because you can't have it your way...( laying back and watching the black man make you rich). If anyone is lazy it is the REDNECK!
I think the poster meant 2 different type people. No offense but there are plenty of yankee rednecks around the nation, also.
Peace

Columbia, SC

#16 Dec 28, 2007
English Major wrote:
Please check your spelling and grammer.
Why? Will you have a bad day if we don't? That important to you, huh?. ok GRAMMAR Feel better?

Have a blessed day hon.

“Soft Touch Hard Cover”

Since: Dec 07

Jersey

#17 Dec 28, 2007
customer wrote:
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Illegals do NOT have taxes taken out idiot!!
Yes ,they do Customer Idiot. How many illegals do you know?

Listen everyonw who cares please listen. This entire situation is not out of hand because of the migrant worker it's because the employers take advantage of a person who is trying to make money here in the land of opportunity.

This is the "new slavery" it's not a joke and it's getting worse and worse. We have the Supreme Court ruling that the employers should be held liable for an employee. That's it. That's the law and it's final.

Don't hire illegal workers thinking you can take advantage of them. Because you will be held accountable if something happens to them.

They do pay taxes.
Peace

Columbia, SC

#18 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
Are they breaking the law by using false ss #'s? Well yes, but how many Americans ( probably many white) are guilty of identity theft? At least the illegals are using false identification to WORK and not STEAL! Wrong is wrong, and if they are caught should be penalized. But my point is, anyone of Mexican descent is automatically labeled as an "illegal" and that is what is wrong. This is one of the most racist, prejudiced, bigoted countries in the free world but yet we conveniently forget we were once immigrants in this country and literally stole this land from the Native Americans. Why are we so opposed to "others" coming here trying to live out the "American Dream" when our ancestors set the stage centuries ago. I think most of the prejudices and racial feelings are about "fear". Many on this forum claim their jobs are being stolen. Well, fight for your jobs! Get a good education, learn how to write a good resume', learn interviewing skills, and learn some work ethics. I will tell you from my observations, Mexicans are NOT afraid to work, that is for sure. You might have some who live off of welfare, but look around...how many whites are doing the same thing?
We seriously need to learn to be more tolerant of those from different races!
Bart, no offense, but all that is all well and good but the simple fact remains that it is simply about illegals who simply just can't be allowed to come in here willy nilly and simply bypass the whole process of becoming a CITIZEN legally. It's really not that hard. Illegal is illegal no matter what dress you put on it.
Bart Simpson

Hopkins, SC

#19 Dec 28, 2007
MaxAcceleration wrote:
And we wonder what is wrong with our nation.......
Does the word ILLEGAL mean anything? This should not even be an issue since they should never be hired in the first place!
I agree with you to a certain degree....they probably shouldn't be hired until proper paperwork is sufficiently filed...however businesses ARE hiring them...they must fill a void from an otherwise LEGAL pool of applicants. What does that tell you? So many want to complain about Mexicans working here, but many of these jobs they are "stealing" from the white americans are inferior in pay and are otherwise vacancies. We either need to quit complaining or take these jobs ourselves. Most white americans have realized there are either higher paying jobs, or government assistance pays just as much and you don't have to work. So my thing is, why complain? They are doing the work we don't even want.

“Soft Touch Hard Cover”

Since: Dec 07

Jersey

#20 Dec 28, 2007
Bart Simpson wrote:
Are they breaking the law by using false ss #'s? Well yes, but how many Americans ( probably many white) are guilty of identity theft? At least the illegals are using false identification to WORK and not STEAL! Wrong is wrong, and if they are caught should be penalized. But my point is, anyone of Mexican descent is automatically labeled as an "illegal" and that is what is wrong. This is one of the most racist, prejudiced, bigoted countries in the free world but yet we conveniently forget we were once immigrants in this country and literally stole this land from the Native Americans. Why are we so opposed to "others" coming here trying to live out the "American Dream" when our ancestors set the stage centuries ago. I think most of the prejudices and racial feelings are about "fear". Many on this forum claim their jobs are being stolen. Well, fight for your jobs! Get a good education, learn how to write a good resume', learn interviewing skills, and learn some work ethics. I will tell you from my observations, Mexicans are NOT afraid to work, that is for sure. You might have some who live off of welfare, but look around...how many whites are doing the same thing?
We seriously need to learn to be more tolerant of those from different races!
Takeit from someone who knows about illegals working. And it's not just mexicans. It's Canadians, and the most I've seen is the people from India. They come here on visa's and continue working when they expire, employers look the other way because they are being "contracted" by employment agencies. Meanwhile, they are receiving a LOAD of benefits from the government. When you speak to people that work for "collection agencies" they will tell you that there are more people in collections that come from India, Middle East, and that region than any other origin. So, this isn't just a mexican issue.

“Soft Touch Hard Cover”

Since: Dec 07

Jersey

#21 Dec 28, 2007
Peace wrote:
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Bart, no offense, but all that is all well and good but the simple fact remains that it is simply about illegals who simply just can't be allowed to come in here willy nilly and simply bypass the whole process of becoming a CITIZEN legally. It's really not that hard. Illegal is illegal no matter what dress you put on it.
Peace it is hard to become legal. You need money to pay for fees and you need an address. If it was that easy then everyone would be legally working.
truth hurts

Summerville, SC

#22 Dec 28, 2007
it would slow the flow of illegals to this country if US companies and small businesses did not hire them. I cant blame anyone for wanting a better life for yourself, but come legally. the true problem is not the illegals it is the greedy corporations that hire undocumented workers and pay them below minimum wage to boost their profit line. Do not spend your money at any business whose greed is their priority

“Soft Touch Hard Cover”

Since: Dec 07

Jersey

#23 Dec 28, 2007
OH and let's not forget the State employees that work for the system that makes them legal. Um......I could go on and on about them. A person that comes from Mexico to work on a farm has a vocabulary of about 1,000 words. An American that graduated college has a vocab of about 500,000 words and there is a requirement that they know English to become legal. So.... they do a lot of shady things to eliminate them from being able to get those papers.

Let's not forget the shady legals that take advantage of their own. Not just mexicans... how about the Russian women that come here trusting some russian pimp and end up being slaves in an entirely different matter.

OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE !!!!

It's way out of our grasp. This is why we have the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the worker. That's AMERICA and God Bless us.
Sunshine

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Dec 28, 2007
.Bottom line is, this shouldn't even be an issue at all. If we didn’t have so many illegal immigrants, we wouldn’t have these problems to begin with. As I stated in a recent post, I have NO problem with the ones that are here legally. The ones who can speak our language,(English) the ones who have a green card and are here legally, the ones who pay taxes and the ones who adapt to the American ways. I don’t see one thing wrong with the people that fall into this category being here in America. I don’t deem it necessary for me to have to Press one for English.

If you choose to hire someone of a different orientation, make sure they have the proper documents supporting there presence here in the US. If you don’t follow proper procedures, you should suffer the same consequences they have to. If you are going to hire them with full knowledge that they are here illegally, you should have to pay for their medical treatment. Nothing makes you more Holier than thou.

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