Luther family got free huge house... son is armed robber ..

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Since: Jan 07

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#1 Mar 8, 2010
Luther's and their Freedom Hill's riding farm got a huge free makeover from "Extreme Makeovers" TV show.
Now son, Alex Luther, is an armed robber with pot in his room.

The family failed this kid somehow .. probably paying more attention to the horses and disabled riders than to their son.

The family failed this kid.
Dances with Wolves

Elkton, MD

#2 Mar 8, 2010
Strange story, but I agree. Somehow the family did fail this child and apparently missed something very serious in his character. Good thing nobody got killed considered that the son was armed.
Roger

New York, NY

#3 Mar 8, 2010
I am a close friend of the family and you are correct, somehow we failed Alex. We are praying for God's guidance to correct that. I ask for your prayer.
Anthony

Elkton, MD

#4 Mar 8, 2010
I know them well.. when you restrict everything in a childs life they just want to rebel. He had barely any freedoms and chose to express his desire for this in armed robbery. When you put church first instead of God himself and let them tell you how to raise your children, this is what happens. Their negligence is going to cost Alex the rest of his life. He was at my house months ago, never would've guessed in a million years. I had a baby outside of marriage and his asinine mother told my fiance's sister she dosn't need to end up like her older sister and make the stupid mistake she did. This isn't even her family, just imagine what the home life would be like.. I feel deeply sorry he's paying for this
Dances with Wolves

Baltimore, MD

#5 Mar 9, 2010
Anthony wrote:
I know them well.. when you restrict everything in a childs life they just want to rebel. He had barely any freedoms and chose to express his desire for this in armed robbery. When you put church first instead of God himself and let them tell you how to raise your children, this is what happens. Their negligence is going to cost Alex the rest of his life. He was at my house months ago, never would've guessed in a million years. I had a baby outside of marriage and his asinine mother told my fiance's sister she dosn't need to end up like her older sister and make the stupid mistake she did. This isn't even her family, just imagine what the home life would be like.. I feel deeply sorry he's paying for this
Good points. I read in the paper today that he was home schooled and wondered if he had any contact with mainstream children of the same age in order to learn social skills. It is scary to consider what must have gone through his head just prior to committing this crime. Everyone needs friends of their own age in which to vent and to work off confusion in life's lessons. Did he have any friends his own age?

You see, it's not so much about picking apart the dynamics of this family in order to understand what happened with this young man. It's more about finding out how this could happen so the rest of us parents don't make the same mistakes in our homes. Hopefully any questions we ask will be taken in that spirit and perhaps someone can share their own observations so that we can maybe shed light on this disaster.
Cecil Countian

United States

#6 Mar 9, 2010
Anthony...you are absolutely correct. Knew the family well at one point and decided that I didn't need to be judged by the mom. For someone who is a Christian she is extremely judgemental and has pushed a lot of people away from the program that she runs because of how she treats people. It's all for her and what she can get, what she can take from people. It is sad that her "control" of her child has sent him this way, but when you control everything and judge everything negatively in a childs life at some point that control back fires.
Also have to add that while I am sad for anyone loosing a family member, to see her "cry" on the show about the death of her husband was shocking. It was not the loving happy relationship she made it out to be.
uh-oh

Tyler, TX

#7 Mar 9, 2010
Anthony wrote:
I know them well.. when you restrict everything in a childs life they just want to rebel. He had barely any freedoms and chose to express his desire for this in armed robbery. When you put church first instead of God himself and let them tell you how to raise your children, this is what happens. Their negligence is going to cost Alex the rest of his life. He was at my house months ago, never would've guessed in a million years. I had a baby outside of marriage and his asinine mother told my fiance's sister she dosn't need to end up like her older sister and make the stupid mistake she did. This isn't even her family, just imagine what the home life would be like.. I feel deeply sorry he's paying for this
Like you Anthony, I once knew them very well. I actually babysat both ellie and alex at times. This is an unbelievable shock to me. I can't believe that he did this, but part of me can see why he did it. I recall one day when I was just playing with them at the farm, Renee was teaching, I suggested something to them about magic, just playing...make believe. Their mother completely exploded at me!!! Magic is not real! SHe is freakin nuts and is probaly to blame for his behavior. Just that one incident shows you how restricted the kids were. And don't even get me started on their father. It made me sick watching them on the TV show how Renee played up Carl. I mean, I'm really sorry that he passed and I'm sure that they all miss him, but he wan't that great of a guy. He was never around when I was 'involved' with them and when he was he was a slimey drunk perv(sorry if I hurt anyone with that, not intentional). I do not feel for Renee in the least bit. But for Alex....I just can't believe that it turned out like this for him.......
No Name

Ruffs Dale, PA

#8 Mar 9, 2010
I do know that Alex had a lot of friends that where his age. I dont believe he had any issues with social skills. He had friends from many different areas of his life.
Dances with Wolves wrote:
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Good points. I read in the paper today that he was home schooled and wondered if he had any contact with mainstream children of the same age in order to learn social skills. It is scary to consider what must have gone through his head just prior to committing this crime. Everyone needs friends of their own age in which to vent and to work off confusion in life's lessons. Did he have any friends his own age?
You see, it's not so much about picking apart the dynamics of this family in order to understand what happened with this young man. It's more about finding out how this could happen so the rest of us parents don't make the same mistakes in our homes. Hopefully any questions we ask will be taken in that spirit and perhaps someone can share their own observations so that we can maybe shed light on this disaster.
Dont Worry About It

New Providence, PA

#9 Mar 9, 2010
No name. . . thank you so much. As a friend of his own age I am extremely offended by the posts suggesting he does not have social skills or interaction with other people his own age. It would take a disgusting person to pick apart a mother who is going through something such as this. . . this is a huge blame to place on someone. It's not our place to judge or blame whatsoever. Let's be real people.

Since: Jan 07

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#10 Mar 9, 2010
above .. truth hurts?
no name

Colora, MD

#11 Mar 9, 2010
No matter how you look at it, he is the ONLY one to blame. He chose to do this terrible thing and now HE will have to suffer the consequences! We need to STOP blaming other people for our own wrongs and start taking responsibility for the things we choose to do in our lives.
No Name

Ruffs Dale, PA

#12 Mar 9, 2010
Your welcome. I do know Alex and his family, I go to the same church as his family does. This took many people by a huge surprise, I knew Alex wasn't perfect by any means no one is, but I didnt expect this from him. Yes he is homeschooled but I believe he had a big social life with people his age. We have a good size youth group at our church and I know he was very involved with Boy Scouts. I do believe he had friends from other aspects of life as well. This is very sad, you are correct in the other posts, the only one to blame is him for his actions. He knew better and now he will need to face the huge consequences. But I do agree, somehow the people in his life must have "failed" him somehow. I've heard he's been going downhill for a few months now. Very sad situation for everyone involved. All we can do now, is pray that God will do a lot of work in his heart and bring justice to this situation.
Dont Worry About It wrote:
No name... thank you so much. As a friend of his own age I am extremely offended by the posts suggesting he does not have social skills or interaction with other people his own age. It would take a disgusting person to pick apart a mother who is going through something such as this... this is a huge blame to place on someone. It's not our place to judge or blame whatsoever. Let's be real people.
Being one

Rising Sun, MD

#13 Mar 9, 2010
Just read where they tried to get his bail reduced and the court won't have it. He's missing his scout meeting, and church teen meeting and some other air pilot type meeting....something about mom wants to send him to a military detention/school. Huh? He also doesn't see where he did wrong because he stated the gun wasn't loaded. Don't they get it?
Anthony

Elkton, MD

#14 Mar 9, 2010
Listen, if we dont pick appart the situation and figure out why this happened. It will happen again, to someone else possibly. I'm not blaming anyone but ALL interaction with the mother was negative, she picks apart anyone and everything. If she feels your not to par with how she feels and believes she will let you know. The latest I've heard from the situation is the church called all families with children and told them to confiscate all mp3 players/ ipods/ computers and such. They said the music caused alex to rob the store. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, they're blaming things that don't even make sense to feed their need for the control of the church members and their lives. You don't and should NOT take away more from the kids, its all going to happen again. Something else I was just reminded about, my fiances mother had a little girl with trisomy 13, they tried taking her to renee luther for riding lessons and these "free" lessons she boasted about were going to to cost a friend of the family over $100 a lesson. I'm not trying to go off on a tangent or even play the blame game and tear other people down, but it baffles me the extent people will go through to blame everyone else but the underlying problem itself. Obviously he was failed at home, the only freedom he had was church and he was failed and controlled there. Take note, the boy scouts he went to every week is also run by his church. I just dont believe he had any room to breath with everyone telling him how to act and move, the pressure built up inside him obviously exploded in him committing this crime. He never seemed like the type to do something like that. Something was obviously seriously wrong. Well, thats my input for the day..
No Name

Ruffs Dale, PA

#15 Mar 10, 2010
I go to Pleasant View and I can attest that families of children were NOT called and told to take such things. Families with children who were friends with Alex were called Friday evening and made them aware of what happen Friday afternoon.

"They said the music caused alex to rob the store. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, they're blaming things that don't even make sense to feed their need for the control of the church members and their lives." This is absolutely false.
Anthony wrote:
Listen, if we dont pick appart the situation and figure out why this happened. It will happen again, to someone else possibly. I'm not blaming anyone but ALL interaction with the mother was negative, she picks apart anyone and everything. If she feels your not to par with how she feels and believes she will let you know. The latest I've heard from the situation is the church called all families with children and told them to confiscate all mp3 players/ ipods/ computers and such. They said the music caused alex to rob the store. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, they're blaming things that don't even make sense to feed their need for the control of the church members and their lives. You don't and should NOT take away more from the kids, its all going to happen again. Something else I was just reminded about, my fiances mother had a little girl with trisomy 13, they tried taking her to renee luther for riding lessons and these "free" lessons she boasted about were going to to cost a friend of the family over $100 a lesson. I'm not trying to go off on a tangent or even play the blame game and tear other people down, but it baffles me the extent people will go through to blame everyone else but the underlying problem itself. Obviously he was failed at home, the only freedom he had was church and he was failed and controlled there. Take note, the boy scouts he went to every week is also run by his church. I just dont believe he had any room to breath with everyone telling him how to act and move, the pressure built up inside him obviously exploded in him committing this crime. He never seemed like the type to do something like that. Something was obviously seriously wrong. Well, thats my input for the day..
Dances with Wolves

Elkton, MD

#16 Mar 10, 2010
Anthony wrote:
Listen, if we dont pick appart the situation and figure out why this happened. It will happen again, to someone else possibly. I'm not blaming anyone but ALL interaction with the mother was negative, she picks apart anyone and everything. If she feels your not to par with how she feels and believes she will let you know. The latest I've heard from the situation is the church called all families with children and told them to confiscate all mp3 players/ ipods/ computers and such. They said the music caused alex to rob the store. Instead of getting to the root of the problem, they're blaming things that don't even make sense to feed their need for the control of the church members and their lives. You don't and should NOT take away more from the kids, its all going to happen again. Something else I was just reminded about, my fiances mother had a little girl with trisomy 13, they tried taking her to renee luther for riding lessons and these "free" lessons she boasted about were going to to cost a friend of the family over $100 a lesson. I'm not trying to go off on a tangent or even play the blame game and tear other people down, but it baffles me the extent people will go through to blame everyone else but the underlying problem itself. Obviously he was failed at home, the only freedom he had was church and he was failed and controlled there. Take note, the boy scouts he went to every week is also run by his church. I just dont believe he had any room to breath with everyone telling him how to act and move, the pressure built up inside him obviously exploded in him committing this crime. He never seemed like the type to do something like that. Something was obviously seriously wrong. Well, thats my input for the day..
Could the control you mentioned be comparable with the Amish? In other words, I've noticed that with the Amish, they are not allowed to associate with anyone who is not a part of their lifestyle for fear that they will leave the flock. While most of their children fall into their culture and lifestyle with no problems, there are some who will rebel and eventually leave. Is it possible that Alex was rebelling against the tight controls of their group?

Just like the rest of us, all I'm trying to do is make sense out of all this. Alex seems like basically a good kid from a nice family with good support from those around him. What snapped? What went wrong? That is the question that, once answered, may shed light on what went through his mind while planning and executing a robbery.
Dances with Wolves

Elkton, MD

#17 Mar 10, 2010
Dont Worry About It wrote:
No name... thank you so much. As a friend of his own age I am extremely offended by the posts suggesting he does not have social skills or interaction with other people his own age. It would take a disgusting person to pick apart a mother who is going through something such as this... this is a huge blame to place on someone. It's not our place to judge or blame whatsoever. Let's be real people.
It was me who asked the question in regards to his social skills. I meant no offense. I was merely asking the question because I did not know the answer, nothing more than that. You see, if the answer was that he did not interact with others his own age, then I could see perhaps why his mind lead to thoughts of a crime. However, since that is not the case as you explained, then his thought processes came from somewhere or something else.

No offenses intended. I'm just trying to understand what happened and asking questions which answers might help all of us understand better. It's all very puzzling.
Anthony

Elkton, MD

#18 Mar 10, 2010
Alex is a good kid, a little misled but overall a good kid, i hope he dosnt go away for awhile. and no name from north east, yes they did call about the ipods. I know two who have gotten their ipods taken away because the church called and suggested a thorough search of all music players. I think they sent him to counselling though, it dosnt look like hes going to jail, according to his facebook anyway
Dont Worry About It

New Providence, PA

#19 Mar 10, 2010
pretty sure this is a temp thing. not completely sure but he is going to counseling. I think there will be further stuff afterwards though.

Dances With Wolves, I'm sorry for misreading what you were saying as I didn't mean to accuse.

The whole situation is just super sad and I know there's something going on that's deeper than any of us has any entitlement to know. All we can do is pray for him and his family right now.
uh-oh

Tyler, TX

#20 Mar 10, 2010
Anthony wrote:
Alex is a good kid, a little misled but overall a good kid, i hope he dosnt go away for awhile. and no name from north east, yes they did call about the ipods. I know two who have gotten their ipods taken away because the church called and suggested a thorough search of all music players. I think they sent him to counselling though, it dosnt look like hes going to jail, according to his facebook anyway
What?!? I highly doubt that after commiting ARMED robbery twice that he is only going to recieve counseling.....He admitted to the police that he not only researched how to perform the act, but scoped the place out and had a plan....that's premeditated armed robbery! Big time no-no. As much as I can't believe Alex has done this and am thoroughly sorry for him and his troubles, wrong is wrong. He is old enough to know that, whatever his excuse for doing it may be. There's no way that he's only going to get counseling.......

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