Panther Valley

Panther Valley

There are 36 comments on the The Morning Call story from May 23, 2008, titled Panther Valley. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Panther Valley School Board gave preliminary approval of a proposed $20.9 million proposed budget Thursday with a 6.95-mill increase for Carbon County residents and a 2.34-mill increase for those in Schuylkill ...

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Broken System

Scranton, PA

#1 May 23, 2008
What exactly did Dumbo Ear accomplish? He showed us his still can babble on, trying to be the great self embellishing showman, multiple times he had to be shown, where they were on the agenda and what they were voting on. He tried to blame a former board member for overspending, on a previous school year's budget, when in fact it is the business manager, who caused the issue, by not properly performing his job and left over some of these issues. The board creates the budget and approves payments on it, it is up to the business manager to report the proper balances. I'm sure Dumbo Ears would have kept everything in line, this coming from a guy would couldn't figure out how much the pool was costing, when he was supplied with the check ledger and all the budget statements. If you really want it to be a team of 9 members, why weren't any of the 6 yes votes invited to the redhead's house, for the pre-meeting yesterday, or were you and Billy just there, because his wife is such a great cook and you did want to eat the lunch left overs at the meeting? If you truly want it to be a team of 9, join the other 6 instead of grandstanding in your self centered little world.

PS I thought you got the meeting moved back to later times, what happened, a meeting before 5?
One who knows

United States

#2 May 23, 2008
Broken System wrote:
What exactly did Dumbo Ear accomplish? He showed us his still can babble on, trying to be the great self embellishing showman, multiple times he had to be shown, where they were on the agenda and what they were voting on. He tried to blame a former board member for overspending, on a previous school year's budget, when in fact it is the business manager, who caused the issue, by not properly performing his job and left over some of these issues. The board creates the budget and approves payments on it, it is up to the business manager to report the proper balances. I'm sure Dumbo Ears would have kept everything in line, this coming from a guy would couldn't figure out how much the pool was costing, when he was supplied with the check ledger and all the budget statements. If you really want it to be a team of 9 members, why weren't any of the 6 yes votes invited to the redhead's house, for the pre-meeting yesterday, or were you and Billy just there, because his wife is such a great cook and you did want to eat the lunch left overs at the meeting? If you truly want it to be a team of 9, join the other 6 instead of grandstanding in your self centered little world.
PS I thought you got the meeting moved back to later times, what happened, a meeting before 5?
The middle school started this issue. We are in debt over that mess.
broke in pv

Stroudsburg, PA

#3 May 23, 2008
why are two secretaries making more than teachers?? anyone ask that question. why does it take two to do the work of one former secretary?
why do we need five paid football coaches? why are we providing food for educare, bha, etc and our kids are paying a small fortune for lunches that have small portions. i'm glad they voted no.
Taxpayer

East Stroudsburg, PA

#4 May 23, 2008
Hit me again ... harder.
comment

East Stroudsburg, PA

#5 May 23, 2008
People like "broke in PV" who make comments like this just magnifies the stupity and ignorance of those who post on the site. They have no idea how a school district is run, yet they seem to have all the answers. Get a life.
Broken System

Scranton, PA

#6 May 23, 2008
One who knows wrote:
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The middle school started this issue. We are in debt over that mess.
If you truly believe that, you don't have a clue.
Mickey Angst

Stroudsburg, PA

#7 May 23, 2008
This is only my second week as a blogger and frankly I'm disappointed this week. There are far fewer comments and they don't have nearly the sting as last week's blogs. These elephant ears of mine did pick up some info that needs repeating for those withhearing worse than mine. It was the business managerwhosaid one of our major problems comes from the 05-06 budget which was a joke with expenditures more than a million ov er budget. He also said middle school building expenses ran high and costs must go up to run it. My comment on over staffing ran far beyond office help but what do you do when you hire assistants to do the work of an incompetent? How do you correct this? Do you give $4000 raises at this time?

ith to meals I enjoy them but it inaccurate to say they are all leftovers, they are not. Yes we have a staffing problem and I do not have the solution. What do you do when you hire an incompetent, then hire a second person to actually do the incompetents work. My comment on reducing staff went far beyond office workers. Condidering recent problems, are $4000 raises justified.
The Facts

United States

#8 May 24, 2008
First of all I completely agree with broke in P.V. The two secretaries do all of the work formerly done by one. In a disrtict the size of P.V. the need for two at the salary they are being paid is ridiculous. They do not even have a bachelors degree and currently make more than teachers working in the district 6, 7, 8 years with a masters degree. That's a fact!!!! They also make more than other secretaries in the district who have been here twice as long and do twice the work they do. Talk about wasting money!!
Jakie

Mohnton, PA

#9 May 24, 2008
The work formrlry done by ONE secretary was split between the two remaining secretaries in ADDITION to the work they were already doing and therefore eliminating one FULLTIME secretary. I don't know if that makes a differance in the way most people feel' but at least get the facts right.
Broken System

Scranton, PA

#10 May 27, 2008
Mickey Angst wrote:
This is only my second week as a blogger and frankly I'm disappointed this week. There are far fewer comments and they don't have nearly the sting as last week's blogs. These elephant ears of mine did pick up some info that needs repeating for those withhearing worse than mine. It was the business managerwhosaid one of our major problems comes from the 05-06 budget which was a joke with expenditures more than a million ov er budget. He also said middle school building expenses ran high and costs must go up to run it. My comment on over staffing ran far beyond office help but what do you do when you hire assistants to do the work of an incompetent? How do you correct this? Do you give $4000 raises at this time?
ith to meals I enjoy them but it inaccurate to say they are all leftovers, they are not. Yes we have a staffing problem and I do not have the solution. What do you do when you hire an incompetent, then hire a second person to actually do the incompetents work. My comment on reducing staff went far beyond office workers. Condidering recent problems, are $4000 raises justified.
Is this coming from a guy who gave up a teaching career and had to have his brother giving him a job at a hole in the wall radio station? If this poster truly had a valid teaching certificate for all those years, you would have thought, he's be teaching, since it seems like he thinks its an overpaid profession. He doesn't like the fact that previously the board eliminated a job and split the work between the two remaining workings. With a cost saving of over $30K per year, even after, the raises, were given. I guess he thinks one of a board member's relation should have gotten a job. There is another office type position opening, due to retirement, lets see how this one is handled?
nesqy

Allentown, PA

#11 May 27, 2008
PV is just a mess . You folks are going to bury your own towns. You have done nothing , I mean Nothing to improve PV area. So much nepotism. that is all there is in PV. You will leave nothing for your children to raise thier children in. you are slowly wiping out your tax base , the eldrly. and replace them with what SLUM LORDS. The new school is nice. Stop the in fighting .And start working to fix this busdget , so you can stop rasiing out Millage . I think you should display and or send copies to every single taxpayer in PV !! So the in fighting would stop and every single tax payer will KNOW where thier TAX money is going !way too much is not know about the School budget. Why is that a every day tax payer can NOT get a copy of the School budget.. free??? that is the real question OF the 21st century
PV resident

Lehighton, PA

#12 May 27, 2008
broke in pv wrote:
why are two secretaries making more than teachers?? anyone ask that question. why does it take two to do the work of one former secretary?
why do we need five paid football coaches? why are we providing food for educare, bha, etc and our kids are paying a small fortune for lunches that have small portions. i'm glad they voted no.
The lunches provided to BHA and Educare are paid to Panther Valley by the students at BHA and Educare. Get your facts right.
How Stupid Are You

Colver, PA

#13 May 27, 2008
nesqy wrote:
PV is just a mess . You folks are going to bury your own towns. You have done nothing , I mean Nothing to improve PV area. So much nepotism. that is all there is in PV. You will leave nothing for your children to raise thier children in. you are slowly wiping out your tax base , the eldrly. and replace them with what SLUM LORDS. The new school is nice. Stop the in fighting .And start working to fix this busdget , so you can stop rasiing out Millage . I think you should display and or send copies to every single taxpayer in PV !! So the in fighting would stop and every single tax payer will KNOW where thier TAX money is going !way too much is not know about the School budget. Why is that a every day tax payer can NOT get a copy of the School budget.. free??? that is the real question OF the 21st century
You complain about how high the taxes are and you want to waste even more money printing and sending thousands of copies of a budget, that nobody will read. If anybody is interested in how the school spends their money, they should attend some board meetings, even if its just to see Dumbo Ears, who can not hear, put on a show. Maybe you'll get to see him be ask to leave, I heard it happened again. Since it seems like Mickey is Mark's idiol, will this be Mark in the future? Will he have ear implants, so he can hear around corners? Stay tuned, for more developing updates LOL
taxpayer

Stroudsburg, PA

#14 May 27, 2008
broke in pv wrote:
why are two secretaries making more than teachers?? anyone ask that question. why does it take two to do the work of one former secretary?
why do we need five paid football coaches? why are we providing food for educare, bha, etc and our kids are paying a small fortune for lunches that have small portions. i'm glad they voted no.
I have to agree with broke in PV. There is absolutely no reason that a secretary should be making more than a teacher. If the justification for giving them these huge raises is that they are now taking on the responsibility of a former secretary, then that is pathetic. Obviously, they didn't need the extra secretary if two can handle what three were doing.
Try Again

Highland, NY

#15 May 27, 2008
taxpayer wrote:
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I have to agree with broke in PV. There is absolutely no reason that a secretary should be making more than a teacher. If the justification for giving them these huge raises is that they are now taking on the responsibility of a former secretary, then that is pathetic. Obviously, they didn't need the extra secretary if two can handle what three were doing.
Since neither of these positions are covered under the Teamster's contract, they aren't secretaries, so maybe you should get some of your fact straight, before you show how stupid you really are. Maybe they should get paid more then some of the teachers, we've seen the PV test scores. Plus they don't get the summers off.
nesqy

Allentown, PA

#16 May 28, 2008
Hey it be cheaper than the Mickey show.....hey heres a really CHeap way ... POST IT ONLINE! A real 21st century answer!So those who have to work for a liven and can't alawys make the meetings have a way to see were our HIGHEST MILLAGE in NORTH EASTERN PA , and perhaps the entire state is going to.JUst try asking for a copy, WE as taxpayer have a right. That right should not be ignore because we can't make the meetings_cause we Work ...get into the 21st century.. open up the info
How Stupid Are You

Owingsville, KY

#17 May 28, 2008
nesqy wrote:
Hey it be cheaper than the Mickey show.....hey heres a really CHeap way ... POST IT ONLINE! A real 21st century answer!So those who have to work for a liven and can't alawys make the meetings have a way to see were our HIGHEST MILLAGE in NORTH EASTERN PA , and perhaps the entire state is going to.JUst try asking for a copy, WE as taxpayer have a right. That right should not be ignore because we can't make the meetings_cause we Work ...get into the 21st century.. open up the info
You didn't pay attention in school, did you? You can’t type, or spell, your grammar stinks and I don't think you made a single comprehendible sentence in your whole paragraph. I can tell you didn't ask for a copy, since I had no problem getting one. Don’t use the work excuse, since the meetings are in the evenings and the business office is open during the day, so you can’t be working both. There are at least 12 school districts in a 60 mile radius with a higher millage then PV, 3 of them with in 40 miles, so if you’re going to try to make a statement, find out the facts first, who do you think you are Dumbo Ears? By the way, they have to let the public see the budget, not give everybody a copy. Why don’t you call them ask, if they can post the budget on the schools web site? OH, I forgot, you’re too busy posting your stupidity.

PS By the way the business office was open, when you made this post, instead of spouting off your lies, why didn’t you stop by and request a copy of the budget?
Suggestion

East Stroudsburg, PA

#18 May 28, 2008
For the angry fellow above: Valium ... prn.
Reality

Owingsville, KY

#19 May 28, 2008
Suggestion wrote:
For the angry fellow above: Valium ... prn.
What are you some kind of druggie?
Are all people with Lehighton ISP locations as stupid as you? I guess getting stuck with Pro Log as your ISP does that to you.
The Facts

United States

#20 May 28, 2008
Try Again wrote:
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Since neither of these positions are covered under the Teamster's contract, they aren't secretaries, so maybe you should get some of your fact straight, before you show how stupid you really are. Maybe they should get paid more then some of the teachers, we've seen the PV test scores. Plus they don't get the summers off.
Alright according to the PV website they are a human resources specialist/payroll clerk and an executive assistant. They do not even have a bachelors degree and make more money than MOST not some of the teachers in the district. They were given a raise to 40,000 a year and that was roughly 3 years ago, they are probably in the mid 40's by now, if not more. The STARTING salary for a teacher with a MASTERS degree this year is 33,695. Maybe one reason test scores are low in the district is because PV has become a stepping stone where more teachers leave each year because of the low pay. The pay these two receive over a teacher really shows where the priorities are and were the money is spent in this district. Yes teacher's have the summer off which many spend working second and third jobs to make ends meet.

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