McCall insulted his religion, constit...

McCall insulted his religion, constituents

There are 26 comments on the The Morning Call story from Aug 1, 2009, titled McCall insulted his religion, constituents. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Recently, Pennsylvania House Speaker Keith McCall of Carbon County was instrumental in banning the name of Jesus from a prayer that was to begin one of the House's daily sessions.

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Holi New Tripoli

Emmaus, PA

#1 Aug 1, 2009
With all due respect Mr.Steinmetz, you best grab Webster's and check the definition of "denigrate".

While I do not profess any exuberance for any elected official, Mr. McCalls actions were within the letter of the law, and that's the name of the game, isn't it?

I do not feel that your religion, or espousal thereof, has provided you the peace and contentment which one seeks through the spiritual avenues of life. Why should these actions offend you, or Jesus, for that matter.

“Cool Logic - Burning Passion”

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#2 Aug 1, 2009
Beware "the devout Catholic" proclamation by anyone. It has a wide range of meanings...
Holy Jim Thorpe Batman

Fogelsville, PA

#3 Aug 1, 2009
Jesus loves you Mr Steinmetx, everyone else thinks you're a a---ole.
Now, how do I send my political donation to McCall?
cynical

Glenolden, PA

#4 Aug 1, 2009
Religion has been insulting decent society since it's inception.

You're entitled to your ignorance, you aren't entitled to impose it on others.
Liberal Terminator

Catawissa, PA

#5 Aug 1, 2009
Richard,

Thanks for the information on Keith McCall banning mention of Jesus in prayer in the state house.

This is an arrow in the heart of free speech and freedom of religion. The fact is the reason the framers of the constitution put the Amendments to the constitution in there is precisely to allow mention of God and even Jesus in the halls of Congress and elswhere.

If Keith McCall is running away from who he is, then maybe it's high time voters ran away from him at the polls.

I was not aware of this attack on our bill of rights by Keith McCall. But he certainly is going to hear from me. Thanks to your letter.

For Cross, Gun & Free Enterprise.

liberalismisasin.com
Liberal Terminator

Catawissa, PA

#6 Aug 1, 2009
Holy Jim Thorpe Batman wrote:
Jesus loves you Mr Steinmetx, everyone else thinks you're a a---ole.
Now, how do I send my political donation to McCall?
Comrade,

Ah! you must be kidding. This has got to be Keith McCall masquerading as a leftwing poster.

See, you can't fool everyone except blind leftwing political assassins.

For Cross, Gun & Free Enterprise.

liberalismisasin.com

Since: Feb 08

United States

#7 Aug 1, 2009
Since when did it become the job of the Pennsylvania House to promote Jesus? That's the church's job. The government has other issues to deal with like roads, schools and library funding.
old nam vet

Stroudsburg, PA

#8 Aug 1, 2009
Keep yor belife of invisable people out of politics
hey yahomos

Bethlehem, PA

#9 Aug 1, 2009
the morning call s u c k s .. don't buy it, read it on-line its free ...
snowman bethlehem PA

United States

#10 Aug 1, 2009
What law is being broken if he mentions JESUS? The United States Constitution states that:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; Nowhere does it say you cannot mention religion. Let the arguments begin.
Liberal Terminator

Catawissa, PA

#11 Aug 1, 2009
Avis wrote:
Since when did it become the job of the Pennsylvania House to promote Jesus? That's the church's job. The government has other issues to deal with like roads, schools and library funding.
Comrade,

The same way you promote socialized HC. It's called the Bill of Rights. Freedom of Religion is included. Not freedom from religion which extremists like you peddle. Your phobia of religion and God makes you pshycotic.

For Cross, Gun & Free Enterprise.

liberalismisasin.com
bizarro world

Allentown, PA

#12 Aug 1, 2009
Liberal Terminator wrote:
Richard,
Thanks for the information on Keith McCall banning mention of Jesus in prayer in the state house.
This is an arrow in the heart of free speech and freedom of religion. The fact is the reason the framers of the constitution put the Amendments to the constitution in there is precisely to allow mention of God and even Jesus in the halls of Congress and elswhere.
If Keith McCall is running away from who he is, then maybe it's high time voters ran away from him at the polls.
I was not aware of this attack on our bill of rights by Keith McCall. But he certainly is going to hear from me. Thanks to your letter.
For Cross, Gun & Free Enterprise.
liberalismisasin.com
Dear Commissar Libby:

Here’s some information about the situation from the Mormon Times, which you will likely reject because it didn’t come from a right-wing extremist Catholic news source:

“Guest chaplains are sent a letter asking them to use "an interfaith, non-denominational prayer" and to refrain from expressing views on legislative, political or governmental issues. House officials say use of "God" or "Father" is permissible, but they do not want mentions of specific religious figures such as Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha.”

http://www.mormontimes.com/people_news/religi...

And here’s a new word for you; perhaps it hasn’t turned up on your “Word-A-Day” calendar yet.

NONDENOMINATIONAL.

It means respecting no particular religion.

Would you be happy if the prayer invoked Buddha? How about Mohamed? Or Bahá'u'lláh, the founder of the Bahá'í faith? Those names all reflect the freedom of religion that you so righteously claim to love and defend.

Or do you believe in “freedom of religion” for YOUR particular religion only – you know, right-wing extremist Catholicism? I suspect that that’s the actual case.

Remember also, dear Libby, that McCall was adhering to previously established policy; he wasn’t some “maverick” acting on his own.

Perhaps you should wax wroth (two more new words, which you can look up yourself) over the government that established such a policy.

And I doubt that McCall is just shaking in his boots over the fact that you’ll deign (another big word) to write to him. Instead, I’m sure he’ll grant your rambling right-wing extremist missive (another new word) all the consideration it merits.

Now, I’m sure you’ll label me a left-wing nutjob extremist socialist communist Marxist anti-Catholic bigot. That’s okay. You do that to everybody, all the time, so I’m quite used to it.

But isn’t it time to learn some new nasty words? Your usual stuff has become quite tiresome.

By the way – the Bill of Rights does not mention “God” or Jesus” even once – so you’ve been caught in yet another lie.

Toodles!

Since: Apr 09

Pawleys Island, SC

#13 Aug 1, 2009
Liberal Terminator wrote:
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Comrade,
The same way you promote socialized HC. It's called the Bill of Rights. Freedom of Religion is included. Not freedom from religion which extremists like you peddle. Your phobia of religion and God makes you pshycotic.
For Cross, Gun & Free Enterprise.
liberalismisasin.com
Herr Jerry:

I've started an email campaign (read SPAM) to all members of the Pa. House of Reps requesting a prayer praising Allah.
You shouldn't have any problem with that, right?

Since: Feb 08

Allentown, PA

#14 Aug 1, 2009
CSS 44 wrote:
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Herr Jerry:
I've started an email campaign (read SPAM) to all members of the Pa. House of Reps requesting a prayer praising Allah.
You shouldn't have any problem with that, right?
If the PA state house is going to endorse a religion I think they should branch out from the monotheistic faiths. Personally, I'd like to see a prayer offered to Zeus or perhaps Athena, the goddess of wisdom.

Since: Apr 09

Pawleys Island, SC

#15 Aug 1, 2009
Avis wrote:
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If the PA state house is going to endorse a religion I think they should branch out from the monotheistic faiths. Personally, I'd like to see a prayer offered to Zeus or perhaps Athena, the goddess of wisdom.
No argument here, but I didn't want to confuse Jerry too much more than he already is.
rookie prez

Sunbury, PA

#16 Aug 2, 2009
wow...some CATHOLIC!
Liberal Terminator

Catawissa, PA

#17 Aug 2, 2009
Comrade all,

Bizzaro, CSS44, Avis, et all.

The fact is you are running away from the fact that Christians, the major religion, has rights to freedom of religion. Prayer is not necessarity a religious propoposition. Because leftwing fanatics and anti-christians like yourselves disagree does not make your anti-christian views legitimate. Christians have rights to hear prayers and they should not be suppressed by the Gestapo agents of the left who want to silence christian prayer.

Christian prayer is a legitimate form of prayer and is held by the majority of Americans. Yes, other religions are growing, but they are not the majority. And even if they were the majority, our constitution says that they should not be suppress, just like minority religions are not suppress now.

When all you liberal and anti-christian fanatics congregate and there is on person of faith in among you, do you attack him for being a Christian? So, this is the same respect you should have for him even if he decides to pray for whatever reason. Maybe he is praying because he knows with you guys around, he better because it may be his last chance. At least it seems so from your hate for prayer and people of real faith.

For Cross, Gun & Free enterprise.

liberalismisasin.com

Since: Feb 08

Kintnersville, PA

#18 Aug 2, 2009
Liberal Terminator wrote:
Comrade all,
Bizzaro, CSS44, Avis, et all.
The fact is you are running away from the fact that Christians, the major religion, has rights to freedom of religion.
What about the Jews, Jerry? They don't have freedom of religion? Or the Muslims, the Buddists, the Hindus or the Mormons?

What about the Atheists, Jerry, do they have any rights in this country? If they have to sit through your Catholic prayers shouldn't you have to sit through their speeches about how people should keep their invisible friends to themselves - it would only be fair.
Freedom fighter

Bethlehem, PA

#19 Aug 2, 2009
May all priests and miniters burn in HELL.
Freedom fighter

Bethlehem, PA

#20 Aug 2, 2009
Correction-- May all Ministers and priests b-u-r-n in h-e-l-l

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