District projects 17 percent tax hike

District projects 17 percent tax hike

There are 22 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jan 4, 2008, titled District projects 17 percent tax hike. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

A preliminary Panther Valley School District budget projects a property tax increase of 8 mills for residents in Carbon and Schuylkill counties for the 2008-09 school year -- about a 17 percent hike for each.

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OMG

Whitehall, PA

#1 Jan 4, 2008
Close down the schools; everybody who has a child gets a job
and time off to home school.
Let the Games Begin

Stroudsburg, PA

#2 Jan 4, 2008
So we announce a 17% increase and pare it down to just 10% by the adoption time ... and the folks will all say, "It could have been worse; look at the swell job we just did." Here's a suggested change for this year: make the cuts - get back to basic education.
carelessfills

Carmel, IN

#3 Jan 4, 2008
"Angst also questioned why the district employs a coach for the girls junior varsity basketball team when it hasn't competed since mid-December, due to a lack of players.

School Director Anthony DeMarco said that a lump sum is allocated for coaching staff salaries in each year's budget, so the district isn't paying more money to continue to employ the coach. Instead, the amount is just divided differently between the number of coaches."

What? This can't be true. Or is it?? hmmmmmmmmmm Either Panther Valley are all nutz, or DeMarco is himself for saying this, or the MC misquoted DeMarco.

Since: Mar 07

Allentown PA

#4 Jan 4, 2008
Another example of government unable t live within their means.

Since: Jul 07

United States

#5 Jan 4, 2008
Let the Games Begin wrote:
So we announce a 17% increase and pare it down to just 10% by the adoption time ... and the folks will all say, "It could have been worse; look at the swell job we just did." Here's a suggested change for this year: make the cuts - get back to basic education.
I think you hit the nail on the head! The district learned that from Rendell
Beavis

United States

#6 Jan 4, 2008
Why don't they do with less??

They teach kids a bunch of garbage and then expect the citizens to pay for it. Does your daughter know how to put a condom on a banana and does your son know 911 happened because we deserve it? Thank your public school.
Mauch Chunker

Fogelsville, PA

#7 Jan 4, 2008
Mickey is on a roll. One think the MCALL forgot to mention
"Tom Shober and R. Mickey Angst worked on developing the budget w/ the Business Manager in the back room of the Sokol Club in Nesquehoning all weekend, and they still can't get the figures to match up?!?! We're only in the red a few million, no biggie, we'll just raise taxes."

Maybe we'll be lucky enough to hear him this weekend on "Air your stupidity"
Go Mickey

United States

#8 Jan 4, 2008
Mauch Chunker wrote:
Mickey is on a roll. One think the MCALL forgot to mention
"Tom Shober and R. Mickey Angst worked on developing the budget w/ the Business Manager in the back room of the Sokol Club in Nesquehoning all weekend, and they still can't get the figures to match up?!?! We're only in the red a few million, no biggie, we'll just raise taxes."
Maybe we'll be lucky enough to hear him this weekend on "Air your stupidity"
Poor Mickey....he's left with one dirty job to clean up. Somebody's got to do it. GO MICKEY! Keep people from having to give up their homes! You are our saviour!
Fed Up with School Taxes

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#9 Jan 4, 2008
When is this insanity going to be stopped?

Wake up Harrisburg.

Take responsibility citizens. VOTE.
If they don't do as promised, vote them out until the elected representative does what he/ she was put in office to do.
Home ownership no longer exists in the Commonwealth of PA. You might not have a mortgage, but the school districts are your landlord.If I own something, then I own it. It cannot be taken away from me. Not the case in this state. Don't pay your tributr to the school boards, you are on the street.
Fed Up with School Taxes

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#10 Jan 4, 2008
*tribute
Fed Up with School Taxes

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#11 Jan 4, 2008
Fix it now!

1. Fund schools with a sales or income tax that the school boards cannot impact.
2. Fund ongoing operations on a per student basis. Monies coming from the state.
3. School boards have no taxing, eminent domain powers.
4. Any infrastructure/ building projects must be vetted/ approved by the voters/ taxpayers.
5. Any spending that does not directly impact academics needs to be approved by taxpayers. This includes such items as free breakfast, daycare, etc.
Agent

United States

#12 Jan 4, 2008
Fed Up with School Taxes wrote:
Fix it now!
1. Fund schools with a sales or income tax that the school boards cannot impact.
2. Fund ongoing operations on a per student basis. Monies coming from the state.
3. School boards have no taxing, eminent domain powers.
4. Any infrastructure/ building projects must be vetted/ approved by the voters/ taxpayers.
5. Any spending that does not directly impact academics needs to be approved by taxpayers. This includes such items as free breakfast, daycare, etc.
Sports and clubs too? Why not make parents responsible for everything? Education is what we are supposed to be paying for, not responsible for any extras right?
Come On

Whitehall, PA

#13 Jan 4, 2008
Put your name on the line rally some people and either change the laws or withholder your taxes. See if you can
get a majority of People to support this. It's time for a revolution.

The New World Order does it; so can we!
Fed Up with School Taxes wrote:
When is this insanity going to be stopped?
Wake up Harrisburg.
Take responsibility citizens. VOTE.
If they don't do as promised, vote them out until the elected representative does what he/ she was put in office to do.
Home ownership no longer exists in the Commonwealth of PA. You might not have a mortgage, but the school districts are your landlord.If I own something, then I own it. It cannot be taken away from me. Not the case in this state. Don't pay your tributr to the school boards, you are on the street.
Fed Up With Tightwads

Allentown, PA

#14 Jan 4, 2008
Fed Up with School Taxes wrote:
Fix it now!
1. Fund schools with a sales or income tax that the school boards cannot impact.
2. Fund ongoing operations on a per student basis. Monies coming from the state.
3. School boards have no taxing, eminent domain powers.
4. Any infrastructure/ building projects must be vetted/ approved by the voters/ taxpayers.
5. Any spending that does not directly impact academics needs to be approved by taxpayers. This includes such items as free breakfast, daycare, etc.
1. State money means state control. You won't have ANY say locally then. That said, income tax is fairer.

2. As long as you include funding special education students at a rate equal to their cost too.

3. You have more say with the local school board than you will ever have with the state government. Emminent domain is necessary in some areas to get new space for schools, but you don't want any more built, right?

4. Eventually these delaying tactics make everything get so bad that a judge makes you fix the problems at far greater cost than if you paid for them when they were needed. The school board was elected to make these decisions after hearing ALL of the facts. The only reason people advocate these referenda is they believe they can stop all new building and that will keep their taxes down. If the buildings are needed, they are needed, no matter if that is popular or not.

5. Ah, the old "I only should be paying for reading, writing and arithmetic" argument. Schools have always been for more than just academics, but in this case, the examples you cite are federal or state government programs and mandates that local school boards don't have much say in whether or not they must be implemented.

Bottom line, you don't want to pay, and you don't care whether the amount you have to pay is 'fair' for what the schools have to do.

There is a name for that.
Charolette

AOL

#15 Jan 4, 2008
amazing
Fed Up

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#16 Jan 4, 2008
Fed Up With Tightwads wrote:
<quoted text>
1. State money means state control. You won't have ANY say locally then. That said, income tax is fairer.
2. As long as you include funding special education students at a rate equal to their cost too.
3. You have more say with the local school board than you will ever have with the state government. Emminent domain is necessary in some areas to get new space for schools, but you don't want any more built, right?
4. Eventually these delaying tactics make everything get so bad that a judge makes you fix the problems at far greater cost than if you paid for them when they were needed. The school board was elected to make these decisions after hearing ALL of the facts. The only reason people advocate these referenda is they believe they can stop all new building and that will keep their taxes down. If the buildings are needed, they are needed, no matter if that is popular or not.
5. Ah, the old "I only should be paying for reading, writing and arithmetic" argument. Schools have always been for more than just academics, but in this case, the examples you cite are federal or state government programs and mandates that local school boards don't have much say in whether or not they must be implemented.
Bottom line, you don't want to pay, and you don't care whether the amount you have to pay is 'fair' for what the schools have to do.
There is a name for that.
Sounds like you have a vested interest in things remaining as they are.
I believe most taxpayers in this state would not agree with your opinion.
Roadkill

United States

#17 Jan 4, 2008
The line item increases listed in the article don't begin to approach the amount of the proposed increase. What is all the extra, extra money for?
Swim out

United States

#18 Jan 4, 2008
I wonder if they are including the extra liability insurance in that 51,000 a year to run the pool
WOW

Northampton, PA

#19 Jan 4, 2008
Wait until the taxes are raised for A-Town after everyone got a raise
Coaldale Dick

Stroudsburg, PA

#20 Jan 4, 2008
Looks like it's time for Rep. Argall to have another meeting in Coaldale to make more empty promises on property taxe fairness. That should keep us happy for a while. Promise them anything, give them nothing.

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