Hudson sweepstakes parlor raided

Hudson sweepstakes parlor raided

There are 31 comments on the Lenoir News-Topic story from Mar 26, 2013, titled Hudson sweepstakes parlor raided. In it, Lenoir News-Topic reports that:

A search warrant was served on the 321 Sweepstakes parlor at 3012 Hickory Boulevard in Hudson after an investigation revealed that Internet sweepstakes machines operating in the business violated a state ban on most video sweepstakes machines.

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curious

Spencer, NC

#1 Mar 26, 2013
Deciding if charges will be filed?? How does that work?? They seize equipment, take the cash but not sure of the charges?? You would think arrest would have been required before they could seize anything.. Is that not like the tail wagging the dog?? Completely backwards process. Just curious.
Rick Grimes

Sevierville, TN

#2 Mar 26, 2013
This was nothing but a ploy by Jones after he found out Lance Wilson was going to run for Sheriff. He knew about the business for weeks and for some reason left it open but closed other businesses. So no charges are going to be filed because they left it open on purpose.
dont be intimidated

Greer, SC

#3 Mar 26, 2013
Of course, he read the Topix comments and thought he had better do something. It's not going to help. He is gone after election, THANK GOD ! THIS COUNTY IS T I R E D of him. TIRED, TIRED, TIRED, TIRED. GO AWAY JONES!!!!
wowwww

Rock Hill, SC

#4 Mar 26, 2013
Rick Grimes wrote:
This was nothing but a ploy by Jones after he found out Lance Wilson was going to run for Sheriff. He knew about the business for weeks and for some reason left it open but closed other businesses. So no charges are going to be filed because they left it open on purpose.
I noticed were CCSD was just a supporting agency to HPD. I thought the law said it was the sheriffs job to enforce sweepstakes laws in the county?? Including cities within the county. I'm not a lawyer but seems to me if they don't file charges then they get their games and money back because no charges equals no crime which means no seizure of property is legal
no surprise

Lenoir, NC

#5 Mar 26, 2013
It is very much the Sheriffs job as all gaming and gaming laws fall under the Sheriff plus all law enforcement in a county is under the Sheriff. The Sheriff was wanting some big production made out of it for PR and get ready for many more big raids and drug busts to be made over the next year as he pretends to do his job.

As far as them seizing stuff without charges well what's new. They are currently being sued for illegally seizing someones firearms and refusing to give them back when no charges we're filed then. They seize money from suspected drug dealers all the time and don't charge. Its called a shake down.
RayRay

Forest City, NC

#6 Mar 26, 2013
no surprise wrote:
It is very much the Sheriffs job as all gaming and gaming laws fall under the Sheriff plus all law enforcement in a county is under the Sheriff. The Sheriff was wanting some big production made out of it for PR and get ready for many more big raids and drug busts to be made over the next year as he pretends to do his job.
As far as them seizing stuff without charges well what's new. They are currently being sued for illegally seizing someones firearms and refusing to give them back when no charges we're filed then. They seize money from suspected drug dealers all the time and don't charge. Its called a shake down.
your comments about all law enforcement in the county being under the Sheriff is incorrect. In municipalities where there is a PD (ex. Lenoir, Hudson, Granite) the Sheriff has no jurisdiction other than serving papers/summons. Just setting the record straight.
Barney Stinson

Sevierville, TN

#7 Mar 26, 2013
But the Sheriff is over all gaming in the county. Call over to Catawba County and ask Sheriff Huffman. He closed them ALL down, didn't matter where.
wowwww

Rock Hill, SC

#8 Mar 26, 2013
RayRay wrote:
<quoted text>your comments about all law enforcement in the county being under the Sheriff is incorrect. In municipalities where there is a PD (ex. Lenoir, Hudson, Granite) the Sheriff has no jurisdiction other than serving papers/summons. Just setting the record straight.
So technically if I find a small town somewhere that the police chief will say he thinks it's ok, then I could open a brothel, bootleg bar, sweepstakes or any other illicit business and according to your response then the sheriff of that county could not bother me?? I doubt it works like that.. If city PD's don't enforce laws then it's the counties job to do so
wrong

Lenoir, NC

#9 Mar 26, 2013
RayRay wrote:
<quoted text>your comments about all law enforcement in the county being under the Sheriff is incorrect. In municipalities where there is a PD (ex. Lenoir, Hudson, Granite) the Sheriff has no jurisdiction other than serving papers/summons. Just setting the record straight.
You sir are wrong, not trying to pick a fight but the fact is that the Sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer in the land and his deputies act with the same power. All municipalities fall inside the county and therefore under the jurisdiction of the Sheriff. A Deputy can and will do anything and more than a local cop can even in that local cops own jurisdiction. The city of Lenoir, Hudson, Granite and all other towns are the jurisdiction of the Sheriff. Local officers have limited power compared to a Deputy. Just setting the facts straight.
wrong

Lenoir, NC

#10 Mar 26, 2013
The Chief of a local PD has less authority than the lowest ranking Deputy because that Deputy carries the power of the Sheriff. A Deputy is acting as a representative of the Sheriff which is an elected official that's why it is so important that the Sheriff be picky in hiring Deputies, everything they do is basically the same as the Sheriff doing it.

The state of NC says that all a Sheriff is responsible for by statute is court house security and operating a jail unless the county and the Sheriff decide to be the counties police force in which they are then the ultimate law enforcement power in that county in all jurisdictions. Caldwell County is set up that was as is most counties in the south in general, goes back to Jim Crow days after the Civil War. It was a way for the old Confederacy and Southern Democrats to retain power from the Federal Government since they were being occupied. The only person that can fire a Sheriff is oddly enough the county coroner but only if that coroner is an elected one, we dont elect ours here.

The more you know!!!!
wowwww

Rock Hill, SC

#11 Mar 26, 2013
wrong wrote:
The Chief of a local PD has less authority than the lowest ranking Deputy because that Deputy carries the power of the Sheriff. A Deputy is acting as a representative of the Sheriff which is an elected official that's why it is so important that the Sheriff be picky in hiring Deputies, everything they do is basically the same as the Sheriff doing it.

The state of NC says that all a Sheriff is responsible for by statute is court house security and operating a jail unless the county and the Sheriff decide to be the counties police force in which they are then the ultimate law enforcement power in that county in all jurisdictions. Caldwell County is set up that was as is most counties in the south in general, goes back to Jim Crow days after the Civil War. It was a way for the old Confederacy and Southern Democrats to retain power from the Federal Government since they were being occupied. The only person that can fire a Sheriff is oddly enough the county coroner but only if that coroner is an elected one, we dont elect ours here.

The more you know!!!!
I think I recall as well that deputies work at the leisure of the sheriff as an extension of his authority, which is why deputies can be fired without cause and why it is possible for a newly to be elected sheriff clean house without violating employment laws. Basically deputies can be replaced at anytime based on the sheriffs opinion without recourse. So if the sheriffs allow inept staff to remain they are no one to blame but the sheriff himself. Correct me if I am wrong
wrong

Lenoir, NC

#12 Mar 26, 2013
wowwww wrote:
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I think I recall as well that deputies work at the leisure of the sheriff as an extension of his authority, which is why deputies can be fired without cause and why it is possible for a newly to be elected sheriff clean house without violating employment laws. Basically deputies can be replaced at anytime based on the sheriffs opinion without recourse. So if the sheriffs allow inept staff to remain they are no one to blame but the sheriff himself. Correct me if I am wrong
You are correct sir. They work at will and can be fired for any reason or no reason by the Sheriff. No reason at all to have inept idiots as Deputies when they can be fired so easily unlike regular police officers. In a perfect world they should be the best of the best with the amount of power they posses and the fact that they are basically the LEO of the people so to speak but in practice they end of being just people the Sheriff likes or friends of friends, a Sheriff can deputize someone with no BLET experience and they can be Deputies for an entire year before they have to take the test.

No reason at all that a new Sheriff cant clean house other than the cost but in this case it would be well worth it to completely clean house from top to bottom.
good god

Winston Salem, NC

#13 Mar 27, 2013
the sheriff has no power nor jurisdiction over Hudson, lenoir or granite falls. period.

you are reading from statutes that apply when county policing is involved and Caldwell does not have that.
Itneedstostop

Denver, NC

#14 Mar 27, 2013
Not correct! The Sheriff presides over all sweepstakes. Catawba and Burke Co SOs are not county police. It is the responsibility if the sheriff. He took it upon himself to delegate to city agencies. Hudson did not enforce and you see what happened. The sheriff finally showed up last friday night. The sheriff has operating an statutory authority over all agencies to include local and state agencies.
beg to differ

United States

#15 Mar 27, 2013
good god wrote:
the sheriff has no power nor jurisdiction over Hudson, lenoir or granite falls. period.
you are reading from statutes that apply when county policing is involved and Caldwell does not have that.
Where are you getting these ideas. Wrong is correct and I've been in Law Enforcement for 22 years many of those as a Deputy in other counties. The Sheriff and his Deputies have more power than anyone in those towns. Like they said, not even the Chief of those towns have that kind of power. Are those towns in Caldwell County? Then they fall under the Sheriff.
good god

Winston Salem, NC

#16 Mar 27, 2013
Itneedstostop wrote:
Not correct! The Sheriff presides over all sweepstakes. Catawba and Burke Co SOs are not county police. It is the responsibility if the sheriff. He took it upon himself to delegate to city agencies. Hudson did not enforce and you see what happened. The sheriff finally showed up last friday night. The sheriff has operating an statutory authority over all agencies to include local and state agencies.
the reason the ccso raided it is Bc the building is not in the town limits of Hudson. this I know for fact.
Really

Hickory, NC

#17 Mar 27, 2013
What does it matter....It was!
good god

Winston Salem, NC

#18 Mar 27, 2013
The sheriff has duties in all three branches of law enforcement: Policing, Courts/Criminal Justice and Corrections/Jail. The Office of the Sheriff is the primary law enforcement agency for the unincorporated areas of North Carolina's counties. The Sheriff, as the County's chief law enforcement officer, has jurisdiction anywhere in the County, including municipalities, where the Sheriff's Office provides assistance and support to local law enforcement agencies.

simply put the Sheriff has jurisdiction but his authority does not supersede the police in those towns.
curious

Rock Hill, SC

#19 Mar 27, 2013
good god wrote:
<quoted text>the reason the ccso raided it is Bc the building is not in the town limits of Hudson. this I know for fact.
Wrong. 321 sweeps is in Hudson town limits , the other place in the old foothills hunting building is in the county and not in town limits.. Secondly Hudson PD was the enforcing agency of the raid with assistance from county, lenoir and granite. Hudson is the actual agency filing charges.
good god

Winston Salem, NC

#20 Mar 27, 2013
beg to differ wrote:
<quoted text>Where are you getting these ideas. Wrong is correct and I've been in Law Enforcement for 22 years many of those as a Deputy in other counties. The Sheriff and his Deputies have more power than anyone in those towns. Like they said, not even the Chief of those towns have that kind of power. Are those towns in Caldwell County? Then they fall under the Sheriff.
um no they fall under the supervision of a town manager and city council they do not answer to the sheriff at all. they are funded only by the taxpayers of the city they work in

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