Political standoff between Apache tribe and allegedly recalled tribal officials

Sep 12, 2008 Full story: KSWO 439

Anadarko_The doors of the Apache Tribal Building in Anadarko are boarded up. The tribal chair and vice chair - who say the recall was not legal - took over the building by force on Tuesday morning, after hiring ...

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ha ha ha

Madill, OK

#1 Sep 21, 2008
Im one of the security officers that took back the building for the apache tribe those fake people sitting across the street from the building in their lawn chairs are only hurting their tribe with all this drama yet the lawn chair warriors who hate the chairman so much will still come and get free clothing vouchers from him and then talk bad about him. Also if we had takin hostages i would like to know why the BIA wasnt able to find them when they searched the building. The only thing the lawn chair warriors are good at is LYING and TRYING to sound like they are good people yet every time we step outside they threaten to hurt us and call us very obscene names and curse at people conducting buisness in this building. If anyone wants the real side of the story feel free to come talk to us we are STILL in the building.
apache tribal member

Anadarko, OK

#2 Sep 23, 2008
it is easy to say alot about the clothing vouchers, what it is a $150 dollar oh wow compared to what the chairman and vice-chairmanperson is making, what $5000 dollars a month, not to mention the F.B.I knows where all the banks are...and how much is there..weather they be in state or out of state...and they know who is getting in it and how much they are getting, and are watching their every move, i wouldnt worry about them lawn chair warriors,lol they better starting worrying about the F.B.I on what they know and how much they know, in due time they will get a rude awaking. if the chairman and vice-chairmanperson cared so much about the whole tribe and not just their close family and friends as the whole town of anadarko can easly see then they ought to give all the tribal members the same thing they are making off the tribe monthly $5000 dollars to all the tribal members and i bet that will end everything, who knows the whole tribe might want both of them to stay chairman and vice-chairmanperson, thats if the F.B.I dont get them first. in due time the truth will come out and you talk about people getting mad as hell, just wait and see what is coming
ANADARKO

Anadarko, OK

#3 Sep 24, 2008
i want to respond to Barney Fife the security officer and about the apache tribe chairman and vic-chairmanperson or better known as (Richard A.dick Wilson) and his goons ok listen barney, richard dick wilson was a corrupt tribal leader who embezzled funds to empoly guardians of the Oglala and their is more to that, but just like the chairman and vice-chair are doing and their better as known as mr.dick wilson and mrs.dick wilson and what are they doing they are useing the apache tribal funds to employ guadians over the apache tribe buildings goons and this is were you come in barney fife the security officer and all the other andy taylors or goons not to mentioned one of them goons was a known felony or rapists under mr. and mrs. Dick Wilson AKA the apache tribe chairman and vice-chairperson. listen barney fife don't be stupid the chairman was never held hostage, when they put a lock on the doors they didnt know he was in there, but he had all the time in the world to leave but he chose to stay in and hide and act like a coward he is and he knew what he was doing he wanted to stay there so he can tell everybody he was held hostage and try to turn the story around, but it didnt work, the only ones who believes that is his goons (you) and the rest of all the barney fifes. the whole town of anadarko knows and see what is really going on there at the apache tribe, mr. and mrs dick wilson at the apache tribe is only helping their close family and friends, it is true if the mr. and mrs. dick wilson chairman and vice-chairmanperson they need to pay the (ALL) apache tribal people the same amount they are making monthly ($5000 dollars) instead they give them $150 dollars vouchers once every 6 months oh wow. listen goon barney fife the security officer you just know what they want you to know, you dont know the whole facts about what is really going on there, stop getting false facts and start listing to the true facts, but then again your just a paid goon so your just going to follow the money and not the apache peoples hearts and needs, so go head and believe mr. and mrs. dick wilson the apache tribe chairman and vice-chairmanperson your just a goon and once a goon always a goon. later barney fife
boone

Anadarko, OK

#4 Sep 24, 2008
hey dont forget the other mrs.dick wilson the one that works at the Bureau of Indian Affairs (Betty Tip) she also dont really care about the apache tribe people needs, someone said she getting paid off also by mr. and mrs.dick wilson the apache tribe chairman and vice-chairmanperson weather she is or is not she still another mrs. dick wilson who is following the money and not the apache peoples needs. if she cared so much she should tell the chairman and vice-chairmanperson to give all the apache tribe $5000 dollars a month also, like they are making a month, but they just want to give the apache tribe members a $150 dollars vouchers every 6 months like someone said WOW! the tribal leaders years ago chose to get $150 dollars a month they wanted to put their people first thats how much they cared. now we got greedy money hungry leaders who dont care who they got to fired who they got to step on to keep their empire money flow coming in every month, it is true thats all they help is there close family and friends and everybody knows in anadarko that is nothing new. we need good great leaders who will not let (MONEY,POWER,AUTHORITY,POSITIO N)make them big headed and greedy for more power. like the apache chairman and vice-chairmanperson is doing now. we need a big change.
dodge

Anadarko, OK

#5 Sep 24, 2008
(The apache tribe) how come they just dont let the BIA take over i mean the (Right people) at the BIA take over all the apache business, because after you get thses crooks out then you got to worry about who is getting in next, because we all know you got alot of crooks who have stolen from the apache tribe before and was got on tape, and are still stealing. look at whats happen to the indian land funds who has got their greedy hands on that now and some of the people didnt know about that they didnt even agree with what they are getting out of it, some of them people just said we are getting this much money without asking the people who the money really belongs too, so i think the BIA should get smart and honest people not (betty t) but trustworthy people to take over all of the apache tribes affairs and they need to do it soon. as far as the indian land funds go's the people should all get together and make the BIA get it back from them other crooks from what i heard some of the people are already getting lawyers to make the BIA pay them back and if thats the case the BIA is going to have to go after the people or them crooks who they gave it too.
ApAcHe

Anadarko, OK

#6 Sep 25, 2008
One thing I can't stand is for someone to run their mouths when they don't know the truth about something, or when they just believe what their families tell them to. They need to be their own person & think for themselves everyone knows that Alonzo & Mary are doing wrong & stealing from the tribe but the only ones that don't care are the ones that are benifiting from them being in office. Alonzo & Mary are suppose to help every tribal member not just the ones they want to help or their family or the people that are what I would call on their side. Alot of people believe in what Carmella is trying to get done & I am one of those people. She has worked her butt off fighting for the people & it will pay off soon we will all get the results when been wanting & praying for. Another thing all those white sercurity gaurds need to go on somewhere else nobody needs you, your not Apache tribal members. About the clothing vouchers they are not giving out by Alonzo the money for the vouchers is from the casino not ALONZO. Every enrolled tribal member is allowed to get one it doesn't matter whether your on their side or not.
ApAcHe

Anadarko, OK

#7 Sep 25, 2008
One thing I can't stand is for someone to run their mouths when they don't know the truth about something, or when they just believe what their families tell them to. They need to be their own person & think for themselves everyone knows that Alonzo & Mary are doing wrong & stealing from the tribe but the only ones that don't care are the ones that are benifiting from them being in office. Alonzo & Mary are suppose to help every tribal member not just the ones they want to help or their family or the people that are what I would call on their side. Alot of people believe in what the lawn chair warriors are trying to get done & I am one of those people. She has worked her butt off fighting for the people & it will pay off soon we will all get the results when been wanting & praying for. Another thing all those white sercurity gaurds need to go on somewhere else nobody needs you, your not Apache tribal members. About the clothing vouchers they are not giving out by Alonzo the money for the vouchers is from the casino not ALONZO. Every enrolled tribal member is allowed to get one it doesn't matter whether your on their side or not.
ApAcHe

Anadarko, OK

#8 Sep 25, 2008
One thing I can't stand is for someone to run their mouths when they don't know the truth about something, or when they just believe what their families tell them to. They need to be their own person & think for themselves everyone knows that Alonzo & Mary are doing wrong & stealing from the tribe but the only ones that don't care are the ones that are benifiting from them being in office. Alonzo & Mary are suppose to help every tribal member not just the ones they want to help or their family or the people that are what I would call on their side. Alot of people believe in what the lawn chair warriors are trying to get done & I am one of those people. She has worked her butt off fighting for the people & it will pay off soon we will all get the results when been wanting & praying for. Another thing all those white sercurity gaurds need to go on somewhere else nobody needs you, your not Apache tribal members. About the clothing vouchers they are not giving out by Alonzo the money for the vouchers is from the casino not ALONZO. Every enrolled tribal member is allowed to get one it doesn't matter whether your on their side or not.
out of state apache

Enid, OK

#9 Sep 25, 2008
every one knows that alonzo & mary think that they are the tribe they think they are the only two apache members and they don't care about anybody else but themselves nobody else matters it's bad that when you are put in office and it just goes to your head it's sad that any person needs to feel that they need that much control as for helping the people on getting any kind of help we don't unless your family we never know what's going on because they don't keep the people informed at all the least we could get is a news letter so we know to because they do get monies for each & everyone of us but they can never help because they are always out of funds hmm makes you just wonder why? we all know where it went in to some pretty deep pockets of some people i don't need to mention no names but they know who they are how many elders and young children have gone to bed hungry or with no utilities because the cost of all that has gone up and they can't make it on what they get so they turn to the tribe and are all told we don't have it but you know the ones in there don't have to worry about that do they? the elders & and the little ones are the ones we should be helping first because without the elders none of us would be here as for the little ones they are our future they should be looked after as far as the lawn chair warriors i am 100% behind them they are going to make a lot of good changes for our apache members not just their family like what it is now so go LAWN CHAIR WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!! FROM A APACHE MEMBER ON THE RIGHT SIDE!!!!!!!!!!
Apache man

Blanchard, OK

#10 Sep 25, 2008
I know for a fact that these so called security chumps don't know what they are up against. I mean they see lots of women out front but what they don't see is the Apache men that back these women. Their flack jackets and bb guns will not be enough if we take our property back like it was taken from us. They better start praying the court takes them out and not us.
apache tribal worker

Anadarko, OK

#11 Sep 25, 2008
look the BIAs not going to do anything about what the chairman and the vice-chairmanperson is doing to their apache people they are ripping off the tribe they are just helping their family and friends, you are going to have to take the apache building by force there is alot of diffrent tribes who are ready to help you protester get this done, not only that i heard AIM is ready to come help you take it by force, alonzo & mary or like someone calls them (mr.and mrs.dick wilson)went outside the tribe they went and got white security officer or their goons remember you have more rights then they do stop letting them think they own the apache buiding cause they dont, call on the other tribes to help they dont like what they done to their indian people and they are ready to help you take it by force, and if turns out to be a riot or someone gets killed it is the BIAs fault they had all the time to do something and they are not doing anything about it, someone said AIM is ready to come and help you take it by force they are waiting on the protester to call them, it is the last resort but it has to be done, make that call and get something done about it. the BIAs is following the money they dont care about the apache tribe people needs, alest they can do is step in and take over all the apache tribes affairs and stop these crooks, i know they better do something fast because something is fixing to happen down their real soon.
Apache Woman

Anadarko, OK

#12 Sep 26, 2008
It is evident that you don't know what you are talking about. It is also obvious that you don't know Alonzo & Mary & you don't have any right to make comments about our tribe & our people that are fighting to get rid of the corruption that is going on thru Alonzo & Mary. We have a constitution that is our law & we must go by just like the United States has a constitution that we can't go against it is the same with our constitution.
Lawn Chair Warriors

United States

#13 Sep 26, 2008
We want to thank all of our supporters out there and would like to hear from more of you about this situation. We would however like to say that we want to handle this situation without any violence. We have filed charges on able security as of sept. 25 and we should be in court within 10 days to get this problem resolved. Keep making your posts and showing your support and we will keep you informed.
apache tribal member

Anadarko, OK

#14 Sep 26, 2008
im going to tell you right now nothing is going to happen, the BIA the BIA courts aint going to do nothing they are just prolonging things but nothing is going to happen to these people the apache tribal leaders they are going to keep on ripping off the tribe and im not saying to have violence im saying take it over by force the same WAY they did, and if violence does break out it is not your fault it is their fault and the BIAs fault for not doing anything. so dont say i told you so, when nothing gets done, and about the apache tribe constitution is Alonzo & Mary going by it, no they are not and the BIA is not neither and who has got the upper hand they do and the BIA dont care if Alonzo & Mary is ripping off our tribe they dont care if just help their family and friends only, dont say i told you so when nothing gets done, you need to take it over by force the same way they did.
ndn

Anadarko, OK

#15 Sep 26, 2008
to all the lawn chair warriors i want to say keep up the good work, and always remember just because some of us dont go and sit and protest does not mean we are not backing you up, so you need to tell people to be nice and friendly to the people who dont sit and protest stop making bad remards behind their backs just because they dont sit and protest with you, remember you going to need votes someday and thats whats going to really count the most, so when you hear people making remarks about that tell them to hush their mouths, their is alot of people backing you protester up even if we dont go and sit and protest with you, some of us even work in and at the apache tribe and know alot of things about the corruption going on here and when the time is right we are going to go singing on the mountain tops for everybody to know. so be nice you never know who is really backing you up.
Lawn Chair Warriors

United States

#16 Sep 27, 2008
Effective September 29, Betty Tipiconnie has been re-assigned for 120 days.
wow

Anadarko, OK

#17 Sep 27, 2008
and what are they going to do about MR.D.Komardley
he is been misusing tribal funds also trying to keep his son and some of his family members out of jail and paying his son for 80 hours of work when his son dont go to work for weeks at a time, sometimes months at a time, and also they pay people to go to golf Tournaments they even paid someone $8000 dollars to go to a softball tournament and these people are their close family and friends, and yet they want to make a big deal about some of the apache people getting help with a $150 dollars every 6 months, there is alot of our apache people who needs real help with their bills some dont got gas some dont got lights and they ask the apache tribe for help and most of the time they turn them down, but yet they got all this money to send their love ones and friends to go play ball some where. something got to be done, the BIA aint doing a dam thing about it, thats all their good for (BIA bossing indians around) thats what it really stands for.
Apache Member

United States

#18 Sep 29, 2008
How does Mary sleep at night knowing that she goes back on her word and knowing shes only helping her family. Her neice that sits in enrollment with no kinda education or G.E.D. How many times does it take to pass the dang thing? Valda sits in that office playing office with our blood quantums.Then who wants a colored woman in your social service office? That is the one office you go and think there is going to be some comfort and you walk into the office thinking you've entered the wrong office. What was wrong with the last Social Service Worker?(NOTHING)Mary wanted to put her family in there. Also,the ICW Director was fired for standing up for her mother. Who wouldnt stand up for her own mother? I no if Mary got in my mother's face I'd done the same. After all said and done they were denied unemployment. That goes to show she has no heart. So Mary go to the tax office and get that PRAY off of your tag and change it to PREY. As for Alonzo we all no that just because you change your drinking location doesnt mean your still not a drunk. Maybe Alonzo should stop by the casino and pick Mary up after she performs and go drinking together. Last thing my prayers go out to the Lawn Chair Warriors. Keep up the good work your doing it for the right cause.
Frustrated Tribal Member

United States

#19 Sep 29, 2008
I give the Lawn Chair Warriors all the praise they are the only ones standing up for our rights. Where are Marquita, Ron and Richard and why are they not in the building conducting business? They are the majority of the committee. Why are they acting like they are scared of Alonzo “the drunk” and Mary “the superstar (in her own mind when she’s had one to many).” Oh, and by the way, what the hell is up with Mary's license plate? I think the only PRAYing she does is to the “porcelain toilet gods” after she drinks her fill of the alcohol she gets for free at the casino. But seriously, legally they can’t keep the members of the committee out but yet they still take no action. I understand they want to do things the right way, but if all of the damage isn’t stopped soon, our tribe will be so far in debt and in so much trouble that we may never get it back anyway. If they stay in control it will only be Mary and Alonzo's family and friends being serviced. If the quorum stand up and take a stand then nobody will get serviced because Mary and Alonzo will tell all the employees to go home. At least it would be fair with no one getting help.
Now let’s talk about all our money going to those damn white barney fifes to protect Mary Rivera. I thought she got her ass beat in the casino, not in the administration building. Don’t her protection need to be over there. I don't remember Richard, Ron, or Marquita beating her ass in that bathroom. I know Richard, Ron and Marquita are very intimidating but they haven’t really done anything to need armed protection. Although they did hold a CONSTITUTIONALLY CALLED meeting (I bet Mary and Alonzo couldn’t spell that without Betsy Browns help) on the side of AOA. That was a very violent meeting as I recall.(I sure was scared.)
I agree with apache tribal member, the BIA is not going to do anything. Brunner and Deerinwater don’t care about our tribal people. If they did it would have never went this far. I say the Lawn Chair Warriors need to protest at the Regional Office and call out channel 7. I say call AIM get them down here. Obviously doing this peacefully is only working in their favor.
We always hear we have to wait on more paper work well while we peacefully wait on your paper work our tribal dollars are being spent. We hear,“that’s ok they’re just digging themselves in deeper”, well guess what, by the time you get them into court to pay it all back they wont have a dime so we still lost. Why hasn’t an injunction been put on them to stop this election? Why give them more rope to hang themselves? I think they have enough. Stop it now if you can if you can. If you can’t, then please be honest and quit saying more paperwork. All we are asking is that you three show and stand up for the tribe like you said you were going to do when you got elected. Quit acting like you are afraid of “The Drunk and The Superstar”. You already have them running scared. They don’t act near as cocky as they did. You have them hurt and it is time to finish them off. Stop hiding behind the Lawn Chair Warriors. They are the true hero’s here. You three should take notes and if you are truly for the tribe, then stand up and show it by getting your asses back in that building.
tribal land funds

Anadarko, OK

#20 Sep 29, 2008
now i know some people are going to be in trouble for the indian tribal land funds and there is indian land funds theres about 4 or 5 people maybe more who is involed with that and we pretty much know who they are but let me also point some things out to you, why is the F.B.I watching tina and bobby jay what are they doing, someone said tina gos to texas to put money in the bank for bobby jay now i dont know if this is a part of that money that is from the indian land funds or if they are getting it from the apache tribe tax office, but someone needs to check into that also

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