Supervisors will dig into pot-growing ordinance

On Tuesday, Butte County supervisors will get their first look at a proposed marijuana cultivation ordinance that would apply to the unincorporated areas of the county. Full Story
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Jean

United States

#1 Feb 21, 2011
This is AWESOME! I know we can't stop them all together but at least this will curtail their operations!
Seriously

Dixon, CA

#3 Feb 21, 2011
So basically the county is in direct voilation of the 215 compasionate care act wanting to charge sick people to grow their own medicine.
True there is a lot of abuse by growers but there are also many valid patients just trying to survive who can't afford to come up with that kind of money in one fee just to grow their own meds. Then there is what happens if some pants die, do you get to replace them?
Sounds more like Butte County just wants to make money off medical marijuana cultivation without getting dirty. Typical way the government works.

Since: Jul 10

Chico, CA

#5 Feb 21, 2011
Not sure the ER got it right - but 1 plant per patient? Get real. The growing season happens once a year, and one plant isn't going to supply an individual for a years time. That's why reasonable folks who have a clue about the issue base limits on the amount of cultivated/cured/processed herb you can possess at one time.

Are the folks who initiated this even familiar with HS 11362.77, which sets a minimum statewide guideline of 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants AND up to 8 ounces of processed cannabis flowers (buds). Physician's note exempts larger amounts. Cities and counties empowered to set guidelines that are greater than those amounts, BUT NOT LESS.

Strangely, Butte County WAS very aware of this when they set forth the county guidelines: http://www.buttecounty.net/da/215.htm

Now they are trying to be more restricting? Based on what exactly?

On a side note:$44 for a zip tie that any moron could remove it asinine (not to metion that they would restrict plant growth if one actually zipped them tight). Should I register my tomato plants too? Funny how quickly greed rears it's ugly head when supervisors get involved. What happened to the "compassionate" part?
my rights please

Paradise, CA

#6 Feb 21, 2011
Who's the idiot that came up with this? I can't believe another person on earth would think this is a good idea! Some people are gonna lose their positions when this is thrown out. And please take Helen Horbets and Jack Handcock with you.
Cannabis Cured My Cancer

Chico, CA

#7 Feb 21, 2011
http://phoenixtears.ca/video-library/

Cannabis Cured My Cancer and it can cure yours too. It can cure your family member too! The time is now for the madness to end.

Let us cure ourselves!!! Cannabis cures cancer. Don't take away our ability to cure ourselves. Don't fine us for growing our medicine.

Stop Running FROM the Cure!

http://phoenixtears.ca/video-library/
Cannabis Cured My Cancer

Chico, CA

#9 Feb 21, 2011
Watch the videos. They are full of facts. Sticking your head in the sand will not make the fact ,that cannabis cures cancer, go a away.

Google CBD and Cancer

Google Cannabinoids and Cancer

Google THC and Cancer

Google Dr Robert Melamede and Cancer.

Trying to ridicule me will not make the facts go away.

The genie is out of the bottle and you can't put her back.
Outlaw liberal thought

United States

#10 Feb 21, 2011
Cannabis Cured My Cancer wrote:
Watch the videos. They are full of facts. Sticking your head in the sand will not make the fact ,that cannabis cures cancer, go a away.
Google CBD and Cancer
Google Cannabinoids and Cancer
Google THC and Cancer
Google Dr Robert Melamede and Cancer.
Trying to ridicule me will not make the facts go away.
The genie is out of the bottle and you can't put her back.
I will not "go away". The fried brain cells in your head are making you think illogically. Even in your "high" state, you can not make me "go away". Come back to reality. A video made by wacked-out people without FACTS does not make it true. Pot will cause cancer, not cure it. Please go to rehabe and come back to reality.
Cannabis Cured My Cancer

Chico, CA

#11 Feb 21, 2011
You are having trouble reading long sentences. I did not tell you to go away.

Google CBD and Cancer

Google Cannabinoids and Cancer

Google THC and Cancer

Google Dr Robert Melamede and Cancer.
Cannabis Cured My Cancer

Chico, CA

#12 Feb 21, 2011
Google Professor Dr. Raphael Mechoulam, Cancer and Cannabis

Google Dr Robert Melamede, Cancer and Cannabis.

Google Manuel Guzmán, Cancer and Cannabis

Since: Jul 10

Chico, CA

#13 Feb 21, 2011
Outlaw liberal thought - your screen name says it all: outlaw thinking that YOU don't agree with.

It sounds like your mind is made up about everything, and no new thoughts can permeate your atrophic brain. You ridicule Cannabis Cured My Cancer's sources of information as being created by a bunch of wacked out people without facts, when in fact his sources are far more compelling than any you've listed to back up your stance (let me guess: Limbaugh? Beck?- yeah, those guys know everything about medical facts, NOT!). For the record: cannabis has higher concentrations of SOME carcinogens - not higher concentrations of carcinogens PERIOD. I bet your right wing talking heads failed to make that point clear.

Quit believing the hype and do some fact searching of your own. That means examining BOTH sides before having an educated opinion. Personally, my jury is undecided as to how effective it (or anything) is on reversing cancer - but to say that it's FAR worse for you than tobacco - you need to update your facts: http://norml.org/index.cfm... .

Obviously putting smoke into your lungs isn't healthy in any form, but there are ways of getting around that (eating, vaporizing, etc.), and the presence of carcinogens is found in much more than you think (would you believe peanut butter?), and every time you BBQ a steak you are introducing some to your meal. Should we outlaw fire because it creates carcinogens?

Since: Jul 10

Chico, CA

#14 Feb 21, 2011
Oh, and the side-effects/risks involved with marijuana are substantially lower than ANY of the drugs the big pharmaceutical companies have tried to force onto the American public in recent times.

The same guys that would outlaw organic herbs so that you have to buy their synthetic products, jack up prices in order to pay for the litigation brought against them due to said side effects. A perfect example of right-wing corporate mentality if ever there was one. China's been curing ailments with herbs for centuries without many of the "known side effects".

But let's continue to support the rich industrial drug cartels, rather than making do with home grown remedies, that will get our country out of debt...
citizen4change

Chico, CA

#15 Feb 21, 2011
If the county dictators pass this as it is,they may as well drive down to san deigo and put up a sign at the border,"WELCOME TO OUR NATIONAL PARKS" because every mexican national will be goin to work. The couty is setting its self up to be sued time and time again.To think 2 of butte counties top cops,cheif baloney and sheriff fife,thought closing collectives was going to make marijuana go away.These 2 theives stole my garden last spring causing me to stimulate the personal economy of my local weed dealer.And be careful what you wish for,your rose garden is next.
Spook

Yreka, CA

#16 Feb 21, 2011
There is no way that this ordinance will stand up. It isn't a zoning issue, and people have a right to engage in any legal conduct on their private property.

Just plant as you normally would and tell the Buttesters to go kick rocks. If and when they try to ticket you for it, then you not only have standing to sue, but can also get the ordinance tossed.
Seriously

Dixon, CA

#18 Feb 21, 2011
The reality is the so called NEW ORDINANCE they want to pass is illegal and contrary to what the bill was originally passed for. Let's stop the back and forth name calling as it's childish and pointless.

Bottom line whether you are for or against the use of medical marijuana it's the peoples choice to choose or not to use, period. Do you want me to dictate your drinking? Oh wait they tried that once before in history and we all know how well that worked right?

FYI. Medical marijuana brings in a LOT of cash to the local economy stimulating jobs, spending ect. You don't have to have a degree in economics to realize that do you?
215isacrock

Hayward, CA

#19 Feb 21, 2011
Seriously wrote:
So basically the county is in direct voilation of the 215 compasionate care act wanting to charge sick people to grow their own medicine.
True there is a lot of abuse by growers but there are also many valid patients just trying to survive who can't afford to come up with that kind of money in one fee just to grow their own meds. Then there is what happens if some pants die, do you get to replace them?
Sounds more like Butte County just wants to make money off medical marijuana cultivation without getting dirty. Typical way the government works.
Based on what I have seen first hand, about 98 percent of 215'ers are a joke. They are in their 20-30's, have nothing wrong with them, have no job because they make money selling marijuana, and will not have pot to piss in when they finally decide to grow up. So let me get this right, you want us to bow down to 2 percent of the people that really near their medicine? The majority of people are sick and tired of these pot heads and the violence they bring. And as far as people dying because they can not get their marijuana, the last time I checked marijuana did not cure a thing; it justs makes you feel like you don't give a crap about anything because you are high.
215isacrock

Hayward, CA

#20 Feb 21, 2011
Dubguy wrote:
Not sure the ER got it right - but 1 plant per patient? Get real. The growing season happens once a year, and one plant isn't going to supply an individual for a years time. That's why reasonable folks who have a clue about the issue base limits on the amount of cultivated/cured/processed herb you can possess at one time.
Are the folks who initiated this even familiar with HS 11362.77, which sets a minimum statewide guideline of 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants AND up to 8 ounces of processed cannabis flowers (buds). Physician's note exempts larger amounts. Cities and counties empowered to set guidelines that are greater than those amounts, BUT NOT LESS.
Strangely, Butte County WAS very aware of this when they set forth the county guidelines: http://www.buttecounty.net/da/215.htm
Now they are trying to be more restricting? Based on what exactly?
On a side note:$44 for a zip tie that any moron could remove it asinine (not to metion that they would restrict plant growth if one actually zipped them tight). Should I register my tomato plants too? Funny how quickly greed rears it's ugly head when supervisors get involved. What happened to the "compassionate" part?
It's not greed by the county but a way of regulating something that has gone very bad. Blame the 20-30 year olds that have taken advantage of 215.
215isacrock

Hayward, CA

#22 Feb 21, 2011
Cannabis Cured My Cancer wrote:
Watch the videos. They are full of facts. Sticking your head in the sand will not make the fact ,that cannabis cures cancer, go a away.
Google CBD and Cancer
Google Cannabinoids and Cancer
Google THC and Cancer
Google Dr Robert Melamede and Cancer.
Trying to ridicule me will not make the facts go away.
The genie is out of the bottle and you can't put her back.
All written by pot heads with their BS marijuana agenda.
215isacrock

Hayward, CA

#23 Feb 21, 2011
Cannabis Cured My Cancer wrote:
Google Professor Dr. Raphael Mechoulam, Cancer and Cannabis
Google Dr Robert Melamede, Cancer and Cannabis.
Google Manuel Guzmán, Cancer and Cannabis
And i can give you hundreds of other doctors that will call BS on your pot head doctors.
New Outlook

Chico, CA

#24 Feb 21, 2011
http://www.projectcbd.org/

Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but does not make people feel “stoned.”

After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users. The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich Cannabis may make it an appealing treatment option for patients seeking anti-inflammatory, anti-pain, anti-anxiety and/or anti-spasm effects, without disconcerting euphoria or lethargy. Scientific and clinical studies indicate that CBD could be effective in easing symptoms of a wide range of difficult-to-control conditions, including: rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, PTSD, epilepsy, antibiotic-resistant infections and neurological disorders. CBD has demonstrated neuroprotective effects, and its anti-cancer potential is currently being explored at several academic research centers in the U.S. and around the world. The scientists whose research inspired us to evaluate the effects of CBD have also found that other plant compounds —notably terpenoids— exert significant effects, too. Project CBD is not about trading one monomolecular focus for another. It's about widening our perspective to learn how Cannabis actually affects us.

Since: Jan 09

Forest Ranch, CA

#27 Feb 21, 2011
So kids, lets look at one probable timeline:

1. Board waives first reading and passes ordinance tomorrow in front of chamber full of protesting citizens.

2. Citizen gets cited.

3. Nuisance abatement hearings all go the county's way.

4. Citizen files suit in Superior Court, wins.

5. County appeals to Appellate Court in hopes of breaking financial back of citizen.

6. Citizen wins at Appellate Court.

7. County appeals to Supreme Court in hopes of breaking financial back of citizen.

8. Citizen wins at Supreme Court.

9. County is forced by the Court to enact a less draconian, legal measure.

We can skip the nonsense of all these billable milliseconds of lawyer and court time by going directly from 1 to 9. The county needs to consider some citizen input. The ad-hoc committee that was assembled to craft this thang was all from the prohibition side of the room, with not one representative of the affected community.

I'd like to see the room full of citizens wishing to speak - both for and against the ordinance. If the meeting runs long enough, a continuance will be necessary, making tomorrow's meeting a de facto first reading.

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