Pennsylvania's presidential vote mean...

Pennsylvania's presidential vote means little Tuesday, a lot in November

There are 13 comments on the PhillyBurbs.com story from Apr 21, 2012, titled Pennsylvania's presidential vote means little Tuesday, a lot in November. In it, PhillyBurbs.com reports that:

On Saturday night, Barbara Gallagher had fellow Democrats in her Quakertown home making calls to Upper Bucks residents on behalf of President Barack Obama.

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Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#1 Apr 23, 2012
Suppose Ron Paul were to take Pa. by a wide mark Tuesday, Would it still not mean much? Only because the sheep are being led to Romney's camp is Pa's vote a moot point.
"They spent theirs and now they want mine"
Regards, Terri
GOP Sheep

United States

#2 Apr 23, 2012
Wouldn't that be great! However Speaker Limbaugh has already issued the order that this is not the time for a 3rd party candidate, Paul's only hope. That's how much power Paul has and the fear he strikes into the rightwing establishment.
KeepGitmoOpen

Bryn Mawr, PA

#3 Apr 23, 2012
GOP Sheep wrote:
Wouldn't that be great! However Speaker Limbaugh has already issued the order that this is not the time for a 3rd party candidate, Paul's only hope. That's how much power Paul has and the fear he strikes into the rightwing establishment.
lol sure...
NotoorangeBOT

Newtown Square, PA

#4 Apr 23, 2012
GOP Sheep wrote:
Wouldn't that be great! However Speaker Limbaugh has already issued the order that this is not the time for a 3rd party candidate, Paul's only hope. That's how much power Paul has and the fear he strikes into the rightwing establishment.
Running Paul as a third party candidate will split the vote and guarantee a win for the Obungler. You can take that to the bank.

Just look at what happened in the 92 election with Ross Perot...
GOP Sheep

United States

#5 Apr 23, 2012
So, once again, the Constitutionalists are told it's not their time. To be manipulated exposes their lack of seriousness.
Nope

Newtown Square, PA

#6 Apr 23, 2012
GOP Sheep wrote:
So, once again, the Constitutionalists are told it's not their time. To be manipulated exposes their lack of seriousness.
You need to be pragmatic. If Paul runs as a third party, he will guarantee an Obama win. zhe will never get enough votes, and you know that.

You have two choices:

1. Vote your conscience and let Obama run unfettered for four more years, or...

2. Take the pragmatic approach and vote for Romney.

It's your choice if you can live with Obama..
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#7 Apr 23, 2012
NotoorangeBOT wrote:
<quoted text>Running Paul as a third party candidate will split the vote and guarantee a win for the Obungler. You can take that to the bank.
Just look at what happened in the 92 election with Ross Perot...
Voting for Ron Paul in the general election is like:

1. Cutting your nose off to spite your face,
2. Falling on your own sword,
3. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
4. Not seeing the forest for the trees,
5. Pissing in the wind,
and 6, and most telling of all, turning the country over to Obama for another four years.

What the Ron Paul holdouts fail to recognize is there is a time to make an against-the-wall stance and a time to make progress toward a goal. Romney may not be perfect, but he's a step in the right direction. The alternative will be a disaster for the country.
A protest vote that elects the opposition isn't much of a protest.
In fact, it's a vote that ensures the exact OPPOSITE of what Ron Paul stands for. Another four years of out-of-control government.

As for voting your conscience, the bravest guy in the cemetary is still DEAD. There will be another election in 2016 and Romney will be judged by his performance. For now, we have to get rid of Obama and the progressive big-government Liberals who are bankrupting the country.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#8 Apr 23, 2012
The progressive, big government liberals of which party?
"They spent theirs and now they want mine!"
Regards, Terri
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Voting for Ron Paul in the general election is like:
1. Cutting your nose off to spite your face,
2. Falling on your own sword,
3. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
4. Not seeing the forest for the trees,
5. Pissing in the wind,
and 6, and most telling of all, turning the country over to Obama for another four years.
What the Ron Paul holdouts fail to recognize is there is a time to make an against-the-wall stance and a time to make progress toward a goal. Romney may not be perfect, but he's a step in the right direction. The alternative will be a disaster for the country.
A protest vote that elects the opposition isn't much of a protest.
In fact, it's a vote that ensures the exact OPPOSITE of what Ron Paul stands for. Another four years of out-of-control government.
As for voting your conscience, the bravest guy in the cemetary is still DEAD. There will be another election in 2016 and Romney will be judged by his performance. For now, we have to get rid of Obama and the progressive big-government Liberals who are bankrupting the country.
Nope

Newtown Square, PA

#10 Apr 23, 2012
TerryE wrote:
The progressive, big government liberals of which party?
"They spent theirs and now they want mine!"
Regards, Terri
<quoted text>
You are wasting your vote.

Do you really think Ron Paul stands a snowball's chance in hell of winning the presidency?

He doesn't have the base or enough independents to win. You can't change the math.

IM is correct in saying that although Romney isn't perfect, he is definitely a step in the right direction, unless you can stomach another four years of Obama.

Put you ideology aside and seriously consider the pragmatic point of view.
Nope

Newtown Square, PA

#11 Apr 23, 2012
GOP Sheep wrote:
So, once again, the Constitutionalists are told it's not their time. To be manipulated exposes their lack of seriousness.
You don't have enough voters to pull it off, and all the wishing in the world won't change that.

I regretted voting for Perot because we ended up handing the election over to Billy boy.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#12 Apr 23, 2012
The advantage of a representative Democracy is that when 'they' don't do right. They can be fired and their policies stopped.
No Deeming allowed.
PA needs to protect itself from the economies of CA & NY.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#13 Apr 23, 2012
TerryE wrote:
<quoted text>The progressive, big government liberals of which party?
"They spent theirs and now they want mine!"
Regards, Terri
Nobody's getting a blank check this time, Terri. Every Republican Senator and Representative will be under the microscope and expected to tackle the big problems. If they don't, they won't last long. Even if Paul was elected, he'd have Congress to deal with. Is success guaranteed? No, but the alternative is 4 more years of Obama - we already know where that leads.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#14 Apr 24, 2012
The message should be made clear to the current Congress and the next. Duplicity counts and accountability will be considered from the Top Down.
The WH has said that things will change.
Good for him.

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