State Attorneys General Defy Public Support for Gay Marriage

Jul 28, 2014 Full story: Switched 115

As marriage equality continues to spread from one state in another, a small group of powerful government lawyers is doing everything they can to hold it back.

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DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#1 Jul 28, 2014
If you want to see a wonderful example of the political double talk, mental gymnastics and posturing about why it's a duty to defend an unjust law I suggest Pam Bondi's press release. Ms. Bondi is FL State AG.

"It is my duty to protect Florida from the “harm” of a federal injunction overriding the will of Florida voters."

Hmm sort of like the harm Florida voters had to suffer through when blacks were given the right to vote and marry white folks.

Attorney General Bondi’s Statement on Same-Sex Marriage Lawsuit"

http://www.myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/new...

“Defending the wishes of the voters who enacted Florida's marriage amendment necessarily requires me to make good faith legal arguments. In presenting those arguments, my office understands and respects that there are many who profoundly disagree with the voters' decision. But anything less than the best defense of our voters' policy preferences would disenfranchise the electorate, undermine the judicial process, and cast aside the professional responsibility that guides me every day as Attorney General.

The subject of same sex marriage is understandably a matter of intense personal concern and sensitivity for Floridians on all sides of the debate. While defending this constitutional amendment, we have remained respectful and showed consideration for those with differing viewpoints—acknowledging in the introduction that this issue is one with ‘good people on all sides.’

“Therefore, I take exception to those who have sought to manipulate our brief, trying to make it something it is not. The brief does not argue for or against same sex marriage as a matter of policy, wisdom, or fairness.....It is my duty to protect Florida from the “harm” of a federal injunction overriding the will of Florida voters.....‘This case is not about which policy choice is better or worse."

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First Pam says it's not about policy. Then she says it's about policy choices.

If it's not about policy, Pam then can you explain how it can be about policy choices?

I also hope Pam brushes up on SCOTUS rulings on voting away civil rights of minorities.

For example:
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943 (SCOTUS Majority Opinion)
"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”

Come election time remember if your State AG has been wasting YOUR taxpayer money on a losing case.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#2 Jul 28, 2014
In all honesty, the State AG isn't being paid to be an LGBT advocate-they're supposed to enforce the laws on the books.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#3 Jul 28, 2014
DNF wrote:
1. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”
2. Come election time remember if your State AG has been wasting YOUR taxpayer money on a losing case.
1. Unless you are a baker, photographer or florist.
2. Seems the AG and the people are on the same page.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#4 Jul 28, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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1. Unless you are a baker, photographer or florist.
2. Seems the AG and the people are on the same page.
Yup protect florist and bakers and give them special exemptions to the laws every other business owner has to obey?

Just what is it about the Civil Rights Act that bugs you so much?

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination because of race, color, religion, or national origin in certain places of public accommodation, such as hotels, restaurants, and places of entertainment. The Department of Justice can bring a lawsuit under Title II when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination in violation of Title II. The Department can obtain injunctive, but not monetary, relief in such cases. Individuals can also file suit to enforce their rights under Title II and other federal and state statutes may also provide remedies for discrimination in places of public accommodation.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#5 Jul 28, 2014
"It is my duty to protect Florida from the “harm” of a federal injunction overriding the will of Florida voters."
Pam Bondi

sort of like when the Federal Govt said blacks can go to white schools

Or that Blacks could marry whites and not have to move to the back of the bus.

Stuff like that Dan and Wonderboy?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#6 Jul 28, 2014
she sounds as crazy as Michelle Bachmann and as clueless as Sarah Palin.

What's in the Tea you guys are drinking?

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7 Jul 28, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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1. Unless you are a baker, photographer or florist.
2. Seems the AG and the people are on the same page.
Or a Tea Party Candidate in Mississippi right wonderboy?
Dan

United States

#10 Jul 28, 2014
DNF wrote:
"It is my duty to protect Florida from the “harm” of a federal injunction overriding the will of Florida voters."
Pam Bondi
sort of like when the Federal Govt said blacks can go to white schools
Or that Blacks could marry whites and not have to move to the back of the bus.
Stuff like that Dan and Wonderboy?
The State AG isn't an advocacy position. They are the chief law enforcement agent of their state and their job is to enforce state law on the books.

Sorry you don't care for that, but it's actually correct.
Belle Sexton

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Jul 28, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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1. Unless you are a baker, photographer or florist.
2. Seems the AG and the people are on the same page.
That is, IF the citizens who voted against the law AND who are primarily impacted by it aren't "people".

"We the People" does NOT mean "We the Majority".
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#12 Jul 28, 2014
DNF wrote:
Just what is it about the Civil Rights Act that bugs you so much?
The same things that bug you about the 1st amendment and the Declaration of Independence. I'm for freedom and choice, for free speech and the free exercise of one's religion.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#13 Jul 28, 2014
DNF wrote:
"It is my duty to protect Florida from the “harm” of a federal injunction overriding the will of Florida voters."
Pam Bondi
sort of like when the Federal Govt said blacks can go to white schools
Or that Blacks could marry whites and not have to move to the back of the bus.
Stuff like that Dan and Wonderboy?
You're off topic. An AG that's doing her job has nothing to do with any of the above.
Too bad the DOJ didn't follow that example.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#14 Jul 28, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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The same things that bug you about the 1st amendment and the Declaration of Independence. I'm for freedom and choice, for free speech and the free exercise of one's religion.
You do realize, don't you, that freedom of religion and forcing others to abide by your beliefs are mutually exclusive?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#15 Jul 28, 2014
Polls continually show that the majority of the people WANT to allow SSM. Why do teabaggers always assume they are "the people"?
Dave wrote:
Even though I know that all is lost and our country has fallen into the hands of homosexual and liberal Nazis, I'm glad to see a few brave, strong, decent people in America with the guts to stand and fight for decency, morality, real marriage and real families!
Thank you Attorney Generals who are fighting for the people of America!

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#16 Jul 28, 2014
The DOI isn't a ruling document. Nobody is keeping you from your religion, but you don't get to push your religion onto others.
Wondering wrote:
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The same things that bug you about the 1st amendment and the Declaration of Independence. I'm for freedom and choice, for free speech and the free exercise of one's religion.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#17 Jul 28, 2014
Dave wrote:
Even though I know that all is lost and our country has fallen into the hands of homosexual and liberal Nazis, I'm glad to see a few brave, strong, decent people in America with the guts to stand and fight for decency, morality, real marriage and real families!
Thank you Attorney Generals who are fighting for the people of America!
Translation....."thank you for supporting my anti-gay agenda." How does gay marriage and equality harm you or anyone else?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#18 Jul 28, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Polls continually show that the majority of the people WANT to allow SSM. Why do teabaggers always assume they are "the people"?
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I hear that a lot-about the majority of people supporting SSM.

Where does that majority disappear to when the issue hits the ballot? Do they all go on vacation?

“Married 6/17/08”

Since: Feb 07

Porterville, CA

#19 Jul 28, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Deleted as "Troll Trash"
In a State with nondiscrimination laws which cover the LGBT folks, if you are a business open to the public you better serve ALL of the people or be prepared to pay the price.

“Married 6/17/08”

Since: Feb 07

Porterville, CA

#20 Jul 28, 2014
Dan wrote:
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The State AG isn't an advocacy position. They are the chief law enforcement agent of their state and their job is to enforce state law on the books.
Sorry you don't care for that, but it's actually correct.
The State AG isn't an advocacy position. They are the chief law enforcement agent of their state and their job is to enforce CONSTITUTIONAL laws, both State and Federal, on the books.

There I fixed that for you to make it a little more accurate. Your welcome.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#21 Jul 28, 2014
jcofe wrote:
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The State AG isn't an advocacy position. They are the chief law enforcement agent of their state and their job is to enforce CONSTITUTIONAL laws, both State and Federal, on the books.
There I fixed that for you to make it a little more accurate. Your welcome.
State laws. primarily.

We have a US AG who's primary responsibility is to federal laws.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#22 Jul 28, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
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You do realize, don't you, that freedom of religion and forcing others to abide by your beliefs are mutually exclusive?
Our Wondering seems to think that Freedom of Religion means that YOU are free to follow HIS religion.(he's not all that bright, you know....)

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