Pursuing death penalty may carry heavy price for Austin County

Oct 4, 2009 Read more: Houston Chronicle 38

Less than an hour's drive from downtown Houston, rural Austin County prides itself on bucolic charm.

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Viceroy IV

Collierville, TN

#1 Jan 18, 2010
I wonder if the doc was abusing his staff for some reason?

"Noel Galvan Cerna, 21, who worked as a ranch hand for Dr. Jorge Mario Gonzalez, 56 at the doctor's 30-acre spread in Bellville, was among the four indicted for capital murder."

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#2 Jan 18, 2010
It is a shame that with a stroke of the pen our govt. can give hundreds of millions of dollars away to other countries and little communities like this can not afford to protect themselves.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#3 Jan 18, 2010
Digger4 wrote:
It is a shame that with a stroke of the pen our govt. can give hundreds of millions of dollars away to other countries and little communities like this can not afford to protect themselves.
I think it's a shame that you don't have a grip on reality.

1) The federal government is well within its authority to use its money to assist foreign countries in need.

2) What does the death penalty have anything to with protecting anyone? None. In fact, if a life of incarceration is less expensive than pursing the death penalty, then the local government is just as guilty as the federal government is at badly managing its money.

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#4 Jan 18, 2010
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's a shame that you don't have a grip on reality.
1) The federal government is well within its authority to use its money to assist foreign countries in need.
2) What does the death penalty have anything to with protecting anyone? None. In fact, if a life of incarceration is less expensive than pursing the death penalty, then the local government is just as guilty as the federal government is at badly managing its money.
It is, why don't you post some stats. A dose of reality wouldn't hurt an anti american like you.
Dont kill in my name

AOL

#5 Jan 18, 2010
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's a shame that you don't have a grip on reality.
1) The federal government is well within its authority to use its money to assist foreign countries in need.
2) What does the death penalty have anything to with protecting anyone? None. In fact, if a life of incarceration is less expensive than pursing the death penalty, then the local government is just as guilty as the federal government is at badly managing its money.
Richard.....Digger4 (a.k.a. Nautilus1, he can't decide) has not had a grip on reality in a very long time. He uses Topix to spread his hate hoping to 'recruit' people over to his pro death penalty side.

Now he's going to ask you to post stats. If you let him, he will have you running all over the internet just to appease his demands.
He did that recently with another poster, and when he found that he couldn't get anywhere with that poster because the poster had an excellent argument, he said "Well we will agree to disagree and move back to the topic of the thread".

Since I know him all too well, and I KNOW when he reads this he will balk, I am posting a link here for you to check out if you wish. It will take you right to the correct page of the thread named "Is the Death Penalty on Death Row in the U.S.?"

I quoted from his post # 811 on that page, but by all means, if you have the time, read from the top of the page. The other poster is "koz" and it starts getting interesting at about post # 803.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/death-penalty...

Have a good day

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#6 Jan 18, 2010
Digger4 wrote:
<quoted text> It is, why don't you post some stats. A dose of reality wouldn't hurt an anti american like you.
Our resident troll AKA "Dont" is at it again. Spewing her stupidity and garbage. I know "What else is new?" LOL

Maybe "Richard" will read some of her post and see exactly who is the total flake and who to believe on anything.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#7 Jan 18, 2010
Dont kill in my name wrote:
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Richard.....Digger4 (a.k.a. Nautilus1, he can't decide) has not had a grip on reality in a very long time. He uses Topix to spread his hate hoping to 'recruit' people over to his pro death penalty side.
Now he's going to ask you to post stats. If you let him, he will have you running all over the internet just to appease his demands.
He did that recently with another poster, and when he found that he couldn't get anywhere with that poster because the poster had an excellent argument, he said "Well we will agree to disagree and move back to the topic of the thread".
Since I know him all too well, and I KNOW when he reads this he will balk, I am posting a link here for you to check out if you wish. It will take you right to the correct page of the thread named "Is the Death Penalty on Death Row in the U.S.?"
I quoted from his post # 811 on that page, but by all means, if you have the time, read from the top of the page. The other poster is "koz" and it starts getting interesting at about post # 803.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/death-penalty...
Have a good day
Yes, Richard Please go to that thread and read thru it. Only start with #1 --That will more than give you an idea about who to believe and who not to believe. She is a flake! The only 2 consistent things about her is that she is against the death penalty and she lies and distorts almost anything. Even when she does not need to do so! Good Luck.

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#8 Jan 19, 2010
Bwahahaha!

Improper use of the much maligned correct Muahahaha. Often used with much gusto in place of actual intelligence.

2. Bwahahaha!

A term used by a twat in usenet. Meant to mean "ha ha". Proponents generally ignorant of fact that no-one starts laughing with a "b".

Considered by those with a slim grasp of the English language to be the last word in witty discussion.

No wonder the Scarecrow uses this in all her posts

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#9 Jan 19, 2010
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's a shame that you don't have a grip on reality.
1) The federal government is well within its authority to use its money to assist foreign countries in need.
2) What does the death penalty have anything to with protecting anyone? None. In fact, if a life of incarceration is less expensive than pursing the death penalty, then the local government is just as guilty as the federal government is at badly managing its money.
Protecting anyone???? Just to let you know there are/have been 389 inmates on death row or who have been executed who have PREVIOUS HOMICIDE CONVICTIONS. See how that does not fit in with your comment. AND there are 99 past and present inmates who were in prison -- escapes and murders and/or murders in prison.
Viceroy_Prime

Antigo, WI

#10 Jan 19, 2010
Bill----- wrote:
<quoted text>
AND there are 99 past and present inmates who were in prison -- escapes and murders and/or murders in prison.
Murders that occur in prison are a result of government negligence in failing to protect persons in their custody, incarcerated persons are owed a special duty of protection by government.

Murders that occur because an inmate escapes from custody are a direct result of government negligence and a violation of the public trust.

Government negligence is no excuse to give government the authority to murder people.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#11 Jan 19, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Murders that occur in prison are a result of government negligence in failing to protect persons in their custody, incarcerated persons are owed a special duty of protection by government.
Murders that occur because an inmate escapes from custody are a direct result of government negligence and a violation of the public trust.
Government negligence is no excuse to give government the authority to murder people.
Those are a totally incredible couple of statements. They have absolutely no standing in the real world and they make no more sense than saying that the government is responsible for every murder that occurs. In the real world you cannot lock up people 24/7 in isolation. You cannot watch every person in any prison 100% of the time to even protect people from themselves from their own stupid decisions.

Good luck when you decide to enter the real world.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#12 Jan 19, 2010
Digger4 wrote:
Bwahahaha!
Improper use of the much maligned correct Muahahaha. Often used with much gusto in place of actual intelligence.
2. Bwahahaha!
A term used by a twat in usenet. Meant to mean "ha ha". Proponents generally ignorant of fact that no-one starts laughing with a "b".
Considered by those with a slim grasp of the English language to be the last word in witty discussion.
No wonder the Scarecrow uses this in all her posts
Hey, did you notice that the two troll idiots are limited to only a icon post at a time. The bug haas been fixed so they cannot post them by the hundreds anymore. LOL

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#13 Jan 19, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Murders that occur in prison are a result of government negligence in failing to protect persons in their custody, incarcerated persons are owed a special duty of protection by government.
Murders that occur because an inmate escapes from custody are a direct result of government negligence and a violation of the public trust.
Government negligence is no excuse to give government the authority to murder people.
OMG, is it possible that there is a person with less intelligence than the Scarecrow. Did you just fly in from Norway?
Viceroy_Prime

Rhinelander, WI

#14 Jan 19, 2010
Bill----- wrote:
<quoted text>
Those are a totally incredible couple of statements. They have absolutely no standing in the real world and they make no more sense than saying that the government is responsible for every murder that occurs. In the real world you cannot lock up people 24/7 in isolation. You cannot watch every person in any prison 100% of the time to even protect people from themselves from their own stupid decisions.
Good luck when you decide to enter the real world.
Incarcerated persons are owed a special duty by government (Warren v. The District of Columbia), in addition, government is responsible for persons in their charge.

As for your reference to "all murders", you're totally off base. We're talking about murders commited by persons in custody of the authorities.

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#15 Jan 19, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Incarcerated persons are owed a special duty by government (Warren v. The District of Columbia), in addition, government is responsible for persons in their charge.
As for your reference to "all murders", you're totally off base. We're talking about murders commited by persons in custody of the authorities.
"

By a 4-3 decision the court decided that Warren was not entitled to remedy at the bar despite the demonstrable abuse and ineptitude on the part of the police. The court held that official police personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for a failure to provide adequate police protection."

You and the Scarecrow MUST be related.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#16 Jan 19, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Incarcerated persons are owed a special duty by government (Warren v. The District of Columbia), in addition, government is responsible for persons in their charge.
As for your reference to "all murders", you're totally off base. We're talking about murders commited by persons in custody of the authorities.
No amount of trying to justify your previous stupid statement is going to even come close to making any sense now.

You need to stick with a topic that you know something about and it certainly is not this one.
Your opinion is one thing, making statements of fact that are not true is entirely something else. You are putting yourself in bad company with a couple of others here who go on and on about with the IQ of a tick.-- sorry ticks. LOL
Viceroy_Prime

Houghton, MI

#17 Jan 25, 2010
Digger4 wrote:
<quoted text> "
By a 4-3 decision the court decided that Warren was not entitled to remedy at the bar despite the demonstrable abuse and ineptitude on the part of the police. The court held that official police personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for a failure to provide adequate police protection."
You and the Scarecrow MUST be related.
Warren wasn't owed a special duty, moron. Persons who are incarcerted, detained and arrested or persons who have entered into a contract with police ARE owed a special duty of police protection.

Everybody else is on their own.
Viceroy_Prime

Houghton, MI

#18 Jan 25, 2010
Bill----- wrote:
<quoted text>
No amount of trying to justify your previous stupid statement is going to even come close to making any sense now.
You need to stick with a topic that you know something about and it certainly is not this one.
I forgot more than you'll ever know about the subject.

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#19 Jan 25, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>Warren wasn't owed a special duty, moron. Persons who are incarcerted, detained and arrested or persons who have entered into a contract with police ARE owed a special duty of police protection.
Everybody else is on their own.
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
"Incarcerated persons are owed a special duty by government (Warren v. The District of Columbia), "
Than why are you claiming it does?

Since: Nov 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#20 Jan 25, 2010
Viceroy_Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
I forgot more than you'll ever know about the subject.
I highly doubt it based on your posts

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