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There are 9 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Mar 2, 2012, titled Lower Scores Seen as Math SOL Format Changes - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Sports and We.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

A facelift for the math section of the Virginia Standards of Learning test could leave high schools students with lower scores.

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Greene County

Max Meadows, VA

#1 Mar 3, 2012
This would not be an issue if teachers were allowed to teach the subject. Instead, now they have to teach only the SOL and how to take the test. Remove the bonds on our teachers and allow them to do their job as they were taught to do it. Then maybe our students will be able to move forward with an education that takes them places, rather than an education that allows them to pass multiple choice tests.
Greene Resident

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Mar 3, 2012
Actually I would bet that math scores are UP because of SOLs because even the ones that would have been failures years and years ago are expected to pass so more emphasis is placed on them than top students.
VA Teacher

Redwood, VA

#3 Mar 6, 2012
This happened in Social Studies last year and when we tried to sound the alarm throughout VA, VDOE stifled it and then issued a memo in April regarding the changes in the test. Why didn't they notify teachers before January test administration...the reason, they didn't want us to know b/c what they are doing is WRONG. VDOE has decided to use SOL tests (which were designed to test minimum competencies of all students) to test "college readiness". This is problematic on many fronts:
-the test and standards were not designed for this purpose so to give the perception of increased rigor VDOE changed cut off scores for passing and this is what is causing MANY more students to fail

-students (special ed., regular ed, advanced) still have to pass so many SOLs to graduate - the state has now sentenced many students to a fate that will only allow them to receive a certificate of attendance - NOT a diploma b/c the test is now set up to denote college readiness...many are not and never will be college ready...nor should they be.
Fluco Criminal Waste

United States

#4 Mar 6, 2012
Word problem: if fluvanna buys a high school no one wants and they cannot afford, how will they have any money to teach math?
Teacher

Dumfries, VA

#5 May 22, 2012
No. Seems that way, but it doesn't happen. SOL is doing more damage than good. SOL needs to change for the better or scraped.
BOS

Berryville, VA

#6 May 23, 2012
Teacher wrote:
No. Seems that way, but it doesn't happen. SOL is doing more damage than good. SOL needs to change for the better or scraped.
Looks like the math SOL needs to be "scrapped" and a spelling SOL instituted since we seem to be "scraping" the bottom of the barrel in that area.
Fluco kid

United States

#7 May 23, 2012
The SOL tests are stupid. They cant fail you so no one ever studies. I deliberately picked wrong answers on all the questions I knew so I could get my history teacher fired.
Trapped Teachers

Collinsville, VA

#8 May 23, 2012
Fluco kid wrote:
The SOL tests are stupid. They cant fail you so no one ever studies. I deliberately picked wrong answers on all the questions I knew so I could get my history teacher fired.
Here is a little tidbit for all you teacher haters out there: Starting next year, 20% of a teacher's evaluation for raises will be based on their student SOL scores. As bad as things are now for teachers, imagine the effect this will have on teaching. Teacher pay will be held hostage to the whims of if a student "likes them" or "hates them." The surest way to ensure students do not deliberately sabotage their teachers pay is by never giving them challenging work, yet it is the best way to ensure students do not learn. Teachers are about to be financially punished for demanding the best effort from students, as this devious child so amply illustrates.
JJJ

United States

#9 May 24, 2012
The state is full of it. They are expecting more and more from teachers while taking away retirement and in many cases reducing their pay. Secondly there is no guidline to pay the teachers that are responsible for Sol's more than their non Sol taking counterparts. The VDOE has an agenda handed down from the state. I'd bet a months paycheck that if I walked up to our Governor and handed him a test he could score higher than my special education students.

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