Buffer bill may inspire better ideas

Buffer bill may inspire better ideas

There are 19 comments on the Evening Sun story from Feb 20, 2012, titled Buffer bill may inspire better ideas. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

It's sad to see "irrational," "bothersome," and "unprofessional" used to describe proposed state legislation requiring casinos to locate at least 10 miles from two historic shrines.

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Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#1 Feb 20, 2012
Ms Wagner, I was born and raised in Adams County and have spent most of my 65 years living here. I oppose HB 2082, or as you refer to it the proposed buffer for two very important reasons.

First it is discriminatory against the people who live in Adams and Somerset Counties because it targets just two areas. This bill will only affect two locations even through we have other historical locations that are just as important as Gettysburg and the Flight 93 site to our American and Pennsylvania History. If you and others wish to ďprotectĒ our historical sites, Pennsylvania has hundreds, if not thousands of historical sites and locations. PROTECT THEM ALL.

My second reason is that this bill discriminates against many who have served our country in other battles and conflicts this country was involved in. I agree that Gettysburg was one of the most decisive battles of the American Civil War, and was, I believe the largest battle to take place on American soil. I do agree that it is most tragic because those on both sides were Americans.

It is not right to say that those who fought at Gettysburg are more deserving to have their memory protected than those who died at the Battle of Germantown or those 60 men who were slaughtered at Fort Presque Isle during the Pontiacís Rebellion, or those who fought and died at Fort Duquesne during the French and Indian War.

If we are going to have a buffer to protect the memory of those who served this country, we need to have that buffer include all locations within the state where men and woman fought and died for a cause.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#2 Feb 20, 2012
Fire Marshal Bill wrote:
Ms Wagner, I was born and raised in Adams County and have spent most of my 65 years living here. I oppose HB 2082, or as you refer to it the proposed buffer for two very important reasons.
First it is discriminatory against the people who live in Adams and Somerset Counties because it targets just two areas. This bill will only affect two locations even through we have other historical locations that are just as important as Gettysburg and the Flight 93 site to our American and Pennsylvania History. If you and others wish to ďprotectĒ our historical sites, Pennsylvania has hundreds, if not thousands of historical sites and locations. PROTECT THEM ALL.
My second reason is that this bill discriminates against many who have served our country in other battles and conflicts this country was involved in. I agree that Gettysburg was one of the most decisive battles of the American Civil War, and was, I believe the largest battle to take place on American soil. I do agree that it is most tragic because those on both sides were Americans.
It is not right to say that those who fought at Gettysburg are more deserving to have their memory protected than those who died at the Battle of Germantown or those 60 men who were slaughtered at Fort Presque Isle during the Pontiacís Rebellion, or those who fought and died at Fort Duquesne during the French and Indian War.
If we are going to have a buffer to protect the memory of those who served this country, we need to have that buffer include all locations within the state where men and woman fought and died for a cause.
LMAO! look at the first line. As I statewd bveofre why do all the residents of Admas county begin with basically the same lines? " I was born and raised in Adams county". "I've been a life long resident of Admas County." "My family goes back many generations in Adams County."
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#3 Feb 20, 2012
stated and before,
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#4 Feb 20, 2012
Oh and BTW, the residents aren't descriminated against that's your warped perception of things. Its so much easier to play victim then think of a a USEFUL alternative to a declining tourist trade. Yeah, the casino would really pack em in.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#5 Feb 20, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
Oh and BTW, the residents aren't descriminated against that's your warped perception of things. Its so much easier to play victim then think of a a USEFUL alternative to a declining tourist trade. Yeah, the casino would really pack em in.
This is a quote directly copied from a Feb. 16 2012 press release of the PA Gaming Control Board:

With an average of 962 tables in operation on a daily basis during January, gross revenue from play of all table games was $52,980,494 which was nearly $9.7 million higher than in January 2011 when revenue totaled $43,310,753 with an average 841 tables operating on a daily basis. That is a 22.3% increase in revenue year over year.

You were saying????
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#6 Feb 20, 2012
AC Native wrote:
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This is a quote directly copied from a Feb. 16 2012 press release of the PA Gaming Control Board:
With an average of 962 tables in operation on a daily basis during January, gross revenue from play of all table games was $52,980,494 which was nearly $9.7 million higher than in January 2011 when revenue totaled $43,310,753 with an average 841 tables operating on a daily basis. That is a 22.3% increase in revenue year over year.
You were saying????
why I was saying that you still aren't going to se that much in tax relief, or haven't you figured that out yet? My guess is that, you haven't and you've been spoon fed a bunch of bs. Gear up sports fans its going to be a long slow summer in Gettysburg... But we'll all thank the unfriendly locals for that. Or at least the ones that post here.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#7 Feb 20, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>why I was saying that you still aren't going to se that much in tax relief, or haven't you figured that out yet? My guess is that, you haven't and you've been spoon fed a bunch of bs. Gear up sports fans its going to be a long slow summer in Gettysburg... But we'll all thank the unfriendly locals for that. Or at least the ones that post here.
My tax bill was just shy of $170 less with my Homestead Exclusion. That will buy a week or two's worth of groceries, and a couple of tanks of gas. Money I would not have in my pocket if it weren't for the benefit of gaming in Pa. All this without a casino in Adams County. Now, even someone with your limited ability to see the obvious can understand that the $22 million increase does not solely benefit property owners in the state of PA, and there is revenue directly benefiting those who have a casino in the area (like you), and the indirect effect on other businesses in the area from casino patrons.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#8 Feb 20, 2012
AC Native wrote:
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My tax bill was just shy of $170 less with my Homestead Exclusion. That will buy a week or two's worth of groceries, and a couple of tanks of gas. Money I would not have in my pocket if it weren't for the benefit of gaming in Pa. All this without a casino in Adams County. Now, even someone with your limited ability to see the obvious can understand that the $22 million increase does not solely benefit property owners in the state of PA, and there is revenue directly benefiting those who have a casino in the area (like you), and the indirect effect on other businesses in the area from casino patrons.
you only got 170 less in your tax bill? Wow you are on the lower end, no wonder Gettysburg is begging for a little tax relief. LOL< here I was thinking I was dealing with some "high end" property owners. You do realize that the higher your tax bill the bigger your tax relief is. So, I'm dealing with a bunch from HUD housing, my mistake. And to think this bunch thinks they are not only intelligent BUT high end too. Your best bet is sell plastic war trinkets to the ever shrinking tourist trade, and hope the government hands out the welfare cheese again, cause no casino coming your way. SEE you at the Sands!!
bruce

Gettysburg, PA

#9 Feb 20, 2012
I think its sad that people will use things like attaching their own agendas to things like plane crashes to garner support for their stupid lame brain ideas. I do think its great though that this stupid idea got shot down.
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#10 Feb 20, 2012
bruce wrote:
I think its sad that people will use things like attaching their own agendas to things like plane crashes to garner support for their stupid lame brain ideas. I do think its great though that this stupid idea got shot down.
Bruce, it hasnít bee defeated yet. Although I donít think is stands much of a chance since two other such attempts have been made, and were not successful. As I understand it all of the state legislators in the districts affected are strongly opposed to it.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#11 Feb 20, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>you only got 170 less in your tax bill? Wow you are on the lower end, no wonder Gettysburg is begging for a little tax relief. LOL< here I was thinking I was dealing with some "high end" property owners. You do realize that the higher your tax bill the bigger your tax relief is. So, I'm dealing with a bunch from HUD housing, my mistake. And to think this bunch thinks they are not only intelligent BUT high end too. Your best bet is sell plastic war trinkets to the ever shrinking tourist trade, and hope the government hands out the welfare cheese again, cause no casino coming your way. SEE you at the Sands!!
Some people seem bright until they speak, or type in your case.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#12 Feb 20, 2012
AC Native wrote:
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Some people seem bright until they speak, or type in your case.
Strange I was thinking the same of you.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#13 Feb 20, 2012
Fire Marshal Bill wrote:
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Bruce, it hasnít bee defeated yet. Although I donít think is stands much of a chance since two other such attempts have been made, and were not successful. As I understand it all of the state legislators in the districts affected are strongly opposed to it.
Fire Marshall Bill, how the heck are ya? Twice defeated, but they always say, "the third time is a charm". One never knows..
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#14 Feb 21, 2012
bruce wrote:
I think its sad that people will use things like attaching their own agendas to things like plane crashes to garner support for their stupid lame brain ideas. I do think its great though that this stupid idea got shot down.
:o)
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#15 Feb 21, 2012
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text>Fire Marshall Bill, how the heck are ya? Twice defeated, but they always say, "the third time is a charm". One never knows..
Actually the other two attempts never made it out of committee, and I have my doubts about this one.

And should this bill not pass, do you think your prediction about "the third time is the charm" could apply to another casino attempt the the chance arise? Not saying it will I believe all the licenses are taken now.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#16 Feb 21, 2012
Fire Marshal Bill wrote:
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Actually the other two attempts never made it out of committee, and I have my doubts about this one.
And should this bill not pass, do you think your prediction about "the third time is the charm" could apply to another casino attempt the the chance arise? Not saying it will I believe all the licenses are taken now.
Am sure they are..WHAT?? like one cannot just be made??? Afterall, isn't it all monopoly money???

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#17 Feb 21, 2012
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> Am sure they are..WHAT?? like one cannot just be made??? Afterall, isn't it all monopoly money???
If the proposition is put forth and the economics are advantageous you can be sure the law can be amended to increase the number of licenses with simple justification and minimal argument in the process.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#18 Feb 21, 2012
Paladinhgwt wrote:
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If the proposition is put forth and the economics are advantageous you can be sure the law can be amended to increase the number of licenses with simple justification and minimal argument in the process.
And the thought that Maryland may swoop in to take advantage of PA's indecisiveness on the advantages of a gaming facility in this area may hasten that process.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#19 Feb 22, 2012
AC Native wrote:
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And the thought that Maryland may swoop in to take advantage of PA's indecisiveness on the advantages of a gaming facility in this area may hasten that process.
Agree, if you take a PA map and spot where current licensed casinos are located, then look for areas that have good highway access for local and out of state and also have areas of interest you will have an idea of where future casinos maybe located. These locations must assure minimal competition between the casinos.

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