CSUMB remedial math program gets HP award

There are 4 comments on the Jan 12, 2011, Monterey County Herald story titled CSUMB remedial math program gets HP award. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

A remedial math program developed by CSU Monterey Bay has been awarded top honors by HP.

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Salinas Teacher

Carmel By The Sea, CA

#1 Jan 12, 2011
Why are students who need remedial math being accepted to a four-year university? To answer my own question, they probably would not have enough students to keep the university open (since 60 percent need remedial math!).

If a student does not have the basic math skills he or she should have learned in high school, then the student should enroll in a community college. Once the students have their basic skills down in community college they can transfer to a four-year university.

Unfortunately, it looks like our public universities are becoming extensions of our high schools where the students are hand-held through their education. As a teacher in Salinas, I am appalled and frustrated by how much we allow our students to get away with. There's no accountability in our schools and the results are now showing up in our universities.

Who is going to take our universities seriously if we continue this trend?
Koban

Monterey, CA

#2 Jan 12, 2011
Salinas Teacher wrote:
Why are students who need remedial math being accepted to a four-year university? To answer my own question, they probably would not have enough students to keep the university open (since 60 percent need remedial math!).
If a student does not have the basic math skills he or she should have learned in high school, then the student should enroll in a community college. Once the students have their basic skills down in community college they can transfer to a four-year university.
Unfortunately, it looks like our public universities are becoming extensions of our high schools where the students are hand-held through their education. As a teacher in Salinas, I am appalled and frustrated by how much we allow our students to get away with. There's no accountability in our schools and the results are now showing up in our universities.
Who is going to take our universities seriously if we continue this trend?
It's amazing, isn't it. No remedial students should be accepted to any of our four year public universities. That's what Community college is supposed to be for. Yet, the statistics are absolutely staggering. I'll post them again:

California Community Colleges:

84% of incoming students are placed in Remedial Math
72% of incoming students are placed in Remedial English

CSU system:

60% of incoming students are placed in either Remedial English and/or Remedial Math.
UC system:

35% of incoming students are placed in either Remedial English and/or Remedial Math.
anon

Marina, CA

#3 Aug 17, 2011
Student's aren't always to blame, sometimes teacher like yourself need to take the responsibility. If a student has to take a remedial course in college it's not always there fault. There could be thousands of reasons why students score what they score. You say if a student doesn't have the basic math skills to attend a community college, the majority of the people who attend community college drop out within the four years. Who are you to say that a student should not attend a University, because of a math score. If they have met the requirements than it should not be a problem.
Salinas Teacher wrote:
Why are students who need remedial math being accepted to a four-year university? To answer my own question, they probably would not have enough students to keep the university open (since 60 percent need remedial math!).
If a student does not have the basic math skills he or she should have learned in high school, then the student should enroll in a community college. Once the students have their basic skills down in community college they can transfer to a four-year university.
Unfortunately, it looks like our public universities are becoming extensions of our high schools where the students are hand-held through their education. As a teacher in Salinas, I am appalled and frustrated by how much we allow our students to get away with. There's no accountability in our schools and the results are now showing up in our universities.
Who is going to take our universities seriously if we continue this trend?
Scott

San Rafael, CA

#4 Aug 18, 2011
I know the answer to this question! Students are accepted to 4 year schools because A, Colleges need the money and B the process weeds out the students, over 4 years, as only the ones doing the work will actually graduate. The first 2 years are an extension of high school, coming up to speed on math, English, social studies. It is in the first 2 years that you are supposed to develop good study skills. The last 2 years everything changes and the demands increase dramatically. Also, most of the free money is used up during the first 2yrs. I worked in College admissions for 4 years and know that in the first 2 years of school most students will pass, even if itís just a C, as it keeps the money coming. Everyone deserves a chance at a higher education in this country; itís just a shame how much you have to pay for it. You want higher standards, make it free for everyone and no one will be able to go but the few that had enough parenting and drive to make through the door .

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