Harlem Pastor Says Jesus Would Want Y...

Harlem Pastor Says Jesus Would Want You to Stone Gays

There are 75 comments on the EDGE story from Mar 22, 2014, titled Harlem Pastor Says Jesus Would Want You to Stone Gays. In it, EDGE reports that:

A Harlem pastor who called for the stoning of homosexuals via the marquee in front of his church has since clarified that although he did not intend to incite anyone to violence, Jesus would surely approve of gays being stoned.

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#55 Mar 24, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
If biblicists are going to quote Old Law with respect to executing homosexuals, then why don't they quote verses which prescribe the death penalty for a wide variety of acts other than homosexuality?

All of the following warrant execution:

striking your father or mother Ex.21:15
kidnapping Ex. 21:6 RSV
cursing your father or mother Ex. 21:17 RSV, Lev. 20:9
touching a mountain Ex. 19:12 RSV
allowing your ox to gore someone Ex. 21:29
lying with a beast Ex. 22:19 RSV, Lev. 20:15-16
sacrificing to other gods Ex. 22:20 RSV
failing to observe the Sabbath Ex. 31:14-15
drinking strong drinks while in the tabernacle Lev. 10:9
committing adultery Lev. 20:10 RSV, Deut. 22:22
lying with your father's wife Lev. 20:11 RSV
lying with your daughter-in-law Lev. 20:12 RSV
being a medium or a wizard Lev. 20:27 RSV
being a witch Ex. 22:18
being a priest's daughter and becoming a whore Lev. 21:9 RSV
Blaspheming the name of the Lord Lev. 24:16
cursing Lev. 24:14 RSV
coming near the priesthood Num. 3:10
being a stranger who comes near the congregation's tabernacle Num. 3:38
gathering sticks on the Sabbath Num. 15:32-35
serving or worshipping other gods Deut. 17:2-5 RSV
showing contempt for the Lord's priest or judge Deut. 17:12 NIV
failing to obey one's parents Deut. 21:18-21
not being a virgin on your wedding day Deut. 22:20-21 NIV
being a betrothed virgin who did not cry out when seduced Deut. 22:23-24
having relations with your wife and her mother Lev. 20:14
telling people to seek other gods Deut. 13:2,5
being a false prophet Deut. 18:20

Biblicists teach, preach, and attempt to reach others with many OT moralisms, but are not adverse to selectivety using that which suits their interests. If they like an OT verse, they expound it; if they don't, they say that's from the Old Law and we aren't under the Old Law anymore. But aren't the Ten Commandments part of the Old Law? Yes, they say, but we are obligated to follow them because they are reported in the NT (Matt. 19:16-18, Mark 10:17-19, and Luke 18:18-22). People who assert as much should note that Jesus omitted half of the Ten Commanments. But even if they had been present, we would still be under all the Old Law, including the Decalogue, according to Christ ("And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of law to fail"--Luke 16:17, see also Matt. 5:18-19). If "sin is transgression of the law", as 1 John 3:4 says, then Christians should be following all of the Old Law.
Very good points.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#56 Mar 24, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
I'm curious. Jesus said nothing about gays at all, or slavery. The bible supports slavery. By his logic, wouldn't Jesus approve of blacks being put back into slavery?
Years ago, many people in The South used to claim that.
420 Blue

Alpharetta, GA

#57 Mar 24, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
This nut needs to go get stoned.
He already is

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#59 Mar 24, 2014
Ever notice how the fundies of the Christian Reconstruction (" I hate everyone who is not like me") crowd hates to have Christ quoted about tolerance, love, compassion and most of all non judgment?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#60 Mar 24, 2014
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Ever notice how the fundies of the Christian Reconstruction (" I hate everyone who is not like me") crowd hates to have Christ quoted about tolerance, love, compassion and most of all non judgment?
But ya left out the part where Jesus beat and whipped people with whom He disagreed !:)

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#61 Mar 24, 2014
snyper wrote:
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There is no record of that sentence EVER having been carried out.
It's interesting to note that the Romans made a male prostitute help Yeshua carry his cross. In Jerusalem. During Passover week.
I wonder if the good Reverend recalls that the first Christian martyr, Stephen, was stoned to death. Would he like that to happen to him and his congregation? I don't think so.

In any case, people who live in glass churches shouldn't throw stones!

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#62 Mar 24, 2014
JohnInToronto wrote:
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I wonder if the good Reverend recalls that the first Christian martyr, Stephen, was stoned to death. Would he like that to happen to him and his congregation? I don't think so.
In any case, people who live in glass churches shouldn't throw stones!
Some say that was Jesus' brother James stoned by Saul or Paul the heretic.
beers

Somonauk, IL

#63 Mar 24, 2014
10-1 he also told them to vote for Obama.
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#64 Mar 24, 2014
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Leviticus 20:13

The Harlem pastor must be an Old Testament man.

Gimme dat ol' time religion,
Dat ol' time religion,
Gimme dat ol' time religion.
It's good enough fer me.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#65 Mar 24, 2014
Gary wrote:
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Leviticus 20:13
The Harlem pastor must be an Old Testament man.
Gimme dat ol' time religion,
Dat ol' time religion,
Gimme dat ol' time religion.
It's good enough fer me.
Except the bible mentions lesbians just as often as it mentions ice cream or airplanes.
Mike

Wesley Chapel, FL

#66 Mar 24, 2014
If he was white the would arrest him for a hate crime
FundiesRMentally Nil

Philadelphia, PA

#67 Mar 24, 2014
Gary wrote:
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Leviticus 20:13
The Harlem pastor must be an Old Testament man.
Gimme dat ol' time religion,
Dat ol' time religion,
Gimme dat ol' time religion.
It's good enough fer me.
You have borne false witness about the clerical bigot, because he doesn't wish death for those who mix fibers or touch pork.

But you stupid freeeks go right on (mis)quoting Levitycuss.
FundiesRMentally Nil

Philadelphia, PA

#68 Mar 24, 2014
Mike wrote:
If he was white the would arrest him for a hate crime
Hey racist:

Your pretend victimhood isn't selling.

You would have purposefully misrepresented what constitutes a hate crime here...except you are too uneducated to understand how you have misconstrued how hate crimes enhancements work.

Maybe if you post how secure you are in your heterosexuality [sic] I'll explain where your error was regarding when hate crimes statutes come into play.

Now stop being such a crybaby and deal with the fact that educated society now laughs at you sexually ill rubes.

“Where's my fairy wand!”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#69 Mar 25, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Except the bible mentions lesbians just as often as it mentions ice cream or airplanes.
Dinosaurs too...you forgot dinosaurs.

Oh! And iPods. It doesn't mention iPods at all...I've checked.

Twice.

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#70 Mar 25, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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But ya left out the part where Jesus beat and whipped people with whom He disagreed !:)
It is worse than that!

JESUS: Luke 19:27, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and kill them in front of me."

JESUS: John 14:15 KJV, "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

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#71 Mar 25, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm curious. Jesus said nothing about gays at all, or slavery. The bible supports slavery. By his logic, wouldn't Jesus approve of blacks being put back into slavery?
[QUOTE who="Fa-Foxy"]<qu oted text>
Years ago, many people in The South used to claim that.
They claimed it because it was biblically accurate.

The Indianapolis Star, one of the most conservative newspapers in the nation, has always quoted 2 cor. 3:17, "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty," on the front of each and every issue. Yet, if the Bible were, indeed, the Word of God, as apologists allege, it would be difficult to find a comment more at variance with the facts. All of the following verses show the God of the Bible sanctioned, indeed, instituted slavery--the absence of liberty.

"Then thou shalt take an awl, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise (Deut. 15:17, KJV)."

"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and you can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly ( Lev. 25:44-46, NIV)."

"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property (Ex. 21:20-21, NIV)."

"I (the Lord) will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Judah, and they will sell them to the Sabeans, a nation far away (Joel 3:8, NIV)"

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men....(Eph. 6:5-7, NIV)."

"All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered (1 Tim. 6:1, NIV)."

"Slaves, obey your earthy masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord (Col. 3:22, NIV)."

"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,....(Titus 2:9, NIV)."

"Slaves, submit yourselves to your master with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also those who are harsh....Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps (1 Peter 2:18,21, NIV)."

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#72 Mar 25, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
He needs to keep control of his rocks
.
If that chunky turkey throws a rock at me; I'll pick that rock back up and heave it right back at his sorry homophobic humptybutt
.
or maybe through his hate sign; in one side and out the other
.
YEAH! ;o)
In a nearby town someone burnt a church to the ground. But there is a happy ending to the story, he also burnt the pastors house to the ground.

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#73 Mar 25, 2014
rock white wrote:
disease will sort the deviants out, no problem. just watch.
With the number of diseases listed in the Merck medical manual, there sure must be a LOT of hetero "deviants".

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#74 Mar 25, 2014
KirkW wrote:
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Dinosaurs too...you forgot dinosaurs.
Oh! And iPods. It doesn't mention iPods at all...I've checked.
Twice.
And kittens ! Where are the kittens ?! Didn't Jesus LOVE kittens ?!

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#75 Mar 25, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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And kittens ! Where are the kittens ?! Didn't Jesus LOVE kittens ?!
Everyday, according the Christian Children's Fund, over 35,000 children die horrible deaths from disease and starvation. Every day! We are all told that Jesus loves all the little children of the world, can you imagine if he hated them?

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