Developer claims gas company, city ig...

Developer claims gas company, city ignore safety code

There are 21 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jul 18, 2008, titled Developer claims gas company, city ignore safety code. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Alleging city code violations by an XTO Energy well site located near residential property in the Pueblo de Farmington subdivision, a Farmington housing developer has requested city officials pull the drilling ...

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L in farmington

United States

#1 Jul 18, 2008
so typical those wells were there before these people built those homes there and now all they can do is complain. Kind of like the dweebs that move next to the airport and complain about the noise. You dont like the gas wells then I suggest you move to another location
Real_estate-bubb le

Hesperus, CO

#2 Jul 18, 2008
Ya don't suppose Mr. Farnsworth is looking for someone to help bail him out of a crashing housing market, do ya?
not a good ole boy

United States

#3 Jul 18, 2008
Real_estate-bubble wrote:
Ya don't suppose Mr. Farnsworth is looking for someone to help bail him out of a crashing housing market, do ya?
Knowing Mr M Farnsworth you hit the nail on the head. He has gotton away with so much in Farmington, how could anyone feel bad for someone who has used the good ole boy network to mess over so many people over the years,especially any of us suckers who have ever bought one of his properties. Who can relate?
Just Me

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Jul 19, 2008
"so typical those wells were there before these people built those homes there and now all they can do is complain. Kind of like the dweebs that move next to the airport and complain about the noise. You dont like the gas wells then I suggest you move to another location"
What a great liberal view! Blame the home and land owners. The only time I have ever heard this same statement was from an Aztec bigwig and gas and oil companies and water truck owners. The neglect from all of these people needs to STOP! I will stand behind anyone who has a grievance with the drilling in this state. The state let these vultures sweep in here and do whatever damage they please with whatever means and left the home and land owners without a voice. I think all people here who have been intruded on should get together and have their voices heard, but, beware, even the commissioners,city workers,congressman will side with the oil and gas companies,,,because we the home and land owners don't pay as many taxes as the oil and gas companies.
Your Liberal view stinks! Take responsibility for your actions and the actions of all who are involved.
Hillbilly

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Jul 19, 2008
The only viable industry in the four corners is the energy industry.( WIC and wellfare don't count.) Am I the only one that remembers the 1980's and the ghost town of Farmington? The producers do make consessions to land owners. Just ask a Conoco hand about the nut job owned Smith Ranch. The financial compensation for surface disturbance far outways the potential earnings for raising a cow critter in the desert. Flat landers that buy a home by a well, or land with a well on it, have no room to snivel.
AAA

Santa Fe, NM

#6 Jul 20, 2008
Real_estate-bubble wrote:
Ya don't suppose Mr. Farnsworth is looking for someone to help bail him out of a crashing housing market, do ya?
What crashing housing market are you referring to? Certainly not in Farmington or Durango.
Tim

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Jul 20, 2008
not a good ole boy wrote:
<quoted text> Knowing Mr M Farnsworth you hit the nail on the head. He has gotton away with so much in Farmington, how could anyone feel bad for someone who has used the good ole boy network to mess over so many people over the years,especially any of us suckers who have ever bought one of his properties. Who can relate?
Why is this about Mr. Farnsworth? I think it is about gas/oil companies abiding by the conditions of their permits and the city enforcing their codes. It seems this perticular well site has been out of compliance for years. I think you are missing the point.
rocketfromtherez

Tuba City, AZ

#8 Jul 20, 2008
Hillbilly wrote:
The only viable industry in the four corners is the energy industry.( WIC and wellfare don't count.) Am I the only one that remembers the 1980's and the ghost town of Farmington?
Actually, it's retail.$$$ from the Rez keeps your little redneck Shangri-la afloat, and Farmington is nothing more than an overgrown trading post. If the Navajo Nation ever did boycott Farmington for one month, you'd see empty storefronts all over again, just like in the 1980's. Three months and there would be a Target in Bluff and a WalMart in Blanding.

The only part of the retail industry in San Juan County that oil, coal, and gas could keep alive without the Navajo $$$ is the meth trade. But tweek up and keep deluding yourself, and you'll stay happy. You've lived this long without facing reality, I'm sure you'll get along OK a little longer.
Backatyapal

Grand Junction, CO

#9 Jul 20, 2008
rocketfromtherez wrote:
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Actually, it's retail.$$$ from the Rez keeps your little redneck Shangri-la afloat, and Farmington is nothing more than an overgrown trading post. If the Navajo Nation ever did boycott Farmington for one month, you'd see empty storefronts all over again, just like in the 1980's. Three months and there would be a Target in Bluff and a WalMart in Blanding.
The only part of the retail industry in San Juan County that oil, coal, and gas could keep alive without the Navajo $$$ is the meth trade. But tweek up and keep deluding yourself, and you'll stay happy. You've lived this long without facing reality, I'm sure you'll get along OK a little longer.
Perhaps you'd like to explain why the retail dollars from the rez keep coming to our little redneck Shangri-La instead of staying on the rez? And if the Navajo Nation were to boycott the big city, just where do you suppose they would go to get all the things they need and want? The Wal-Mart SuperCenter in Ganado?
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Don't be projecting the failures of the Navajo Nation government onto the residents of Farmington pal. You guys are responsible for your own mess, not Farmington.
rocketfromtherez

Tuba City, AZ

#10 Jul 20, 2008
Backatyapal wrote:
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Perhaps you'd like to explain why the retail dollars from the rez keep coming to our little redneck Shangri-La instead of staying on the rez? And if the Navajo Nation were to boycott the big city, just where do you suppose they would go to get all the things they need and want? The Wal-Mart SuperCenter in Ganado?
Try the WalMart in Gallup. It's where I do shop. Gallup is still a bordertown, but at least they recognize that the Navajo people contribute greatly to their economy.
Backatyapal

Grand Junction, CO

#11 Jul 20, 2008
rocketfromtherez wrote:
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Try the WalMart in Gallup. It's where I do shop. Gallup is still a bordertown, but at least they recognize that the Navajo people contribute greatly to their economy.
"Contributute greatly" and "keeps your little redneck Shangri-La afloat" are two completely different things. The people in Farmington know full well the importance of their Navajo customers, but to claim that they contribute more to this economy than oil, gas, and coal is nonsense. Your racist attitude is showing. Again.
FSBO

Grand Junction, CO

#12 Jul 20, 2008
AAA wrote:
<quoted text>
What crashing housing market are you referring to? Certainly not in Farmington or Durango.
In your dreams. Take a hard look at the top end of the market in Farmington. It was way overbuilt, and now the psuedo-McMansions in the Country Club and the stuff Farnsworth is building next door are struggling. Days on market are stretching into months on market, prices are falling, builders are barely keeping up with their loans, and sellers are offering more and more incentives. The whisper at the SJCC is "Please don't put another realtor's sign on our street. Can't you just advertise it in MLS and in the newspaper and magazines?" Call it what you like, but for houses over about $400,000 it pretty much sucks right now in Farmington.
rocketfromtherez

Tuba City, AZ

#13 Jul 20, 2008
FSBO wrote:
<quoted text>
In your dreams. Take a hard look at the top end of the market in Farmington. It was way overbuilt, and now the psuedo-McMansions in the Country Club and the stuff Farnsworth is building next door are struggling. Days on market are stretching into months on market, prices are falling, builders are barely keeping up with their loans, and sellers are offering more and more incentives. The whisper at the SJCC is "Please don't put another realtor's sign on our street. Can't you just advertise it in MLS and in the newspaper and magazines?" Call it what you like, but for houses over about $400,000 it pretty much sucks right now in Farmington.
Ouch. Sounds like tough times in Redneck Paradise. Better start treating the Navajo people better when they spend their $$$ in your town. And by the way, that $$$ is not all gov't "handouts". Much of it is earned through hard work, in power plants, schools, hospitals, offices, and other businesses on the Rez. There may not be a lot of businesses here, but there are always plenty of hard workers ready to take the jobs and earn some money. Who do you think mined so much of the uranium that helped make the USA the world's greatest superpower? Lot of thanks the Dine got for that...
rtwretyer

Farmington, NM

#14 Jul 21, 2008
L in farmington wrote:
so typical those wells were there before these people built those homes there and now all they can do is complain. Kind of like the dweebs that move next to the airport and complain about the noise. You dont like the gas wells then I suggest you move to another location
My house was built before the well site, and the well site was built within "the hundred foot minimum".

Hillbilly

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jul 21, 2008
Hey Rocket. Don't forget were the tribes money comes from.. Plus look at the amount of Dine working in the energy industry. My sypathy does go out to the uranium miners, red and white. If the energy industry left, white, red and brown would be broke. Saying this area could survive w/o the energy industury is like saying the tribal council could function w/o Federal government handouts.
Back to reality

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jul 21, 2008
I think that the reality has gone away with these comments. This is not about the Rez or how much
the oil company does for our community. What this is about is that our Local City Government is allowing the codes and regulations to be determined by whom is involved. The last I knew the city codes were to be for everyone and not to pick and choose who would have to comply. If we have a lot of money it is o.k. not to comply because we can buy our way out of the situation. Don't think that is what you or I elected our city government to do.
The last time I drove through that subdivision I don't recall there being any houses that weren't sold. This subdivision is in the 250,000.00 range so that the middle class can have a home to call their own.
Let's stop and think about what we are doing and saying before we might just have to eat crow.
That subdivision is a beautiful place and all the builders have had to be to CODE. The well site should have to be to CODE and have all their paperwork and permits and landscaping done the same as the citizens do.
Noneofyourbusine ss

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Jul 21, 2008
Real_estate-bubble wrote:
Ya don't suppose Mr. Farnsworth is looking for someone to help bail him out of a crashing housing market, do ya?
I dont think Mr. Farnsworth has any lots left. I think he sold them all very quickly.
CodeCompliance

Santa Fe, NM

#19 Jul 21, 2008
rtwretyer wrote:
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My house was built before the well site, and the well site was built within "the hundred foot minimum".
Straight from the article, a quote from XTO:

"The site does have a hydrocarbon storage tank installed above ground, which without a special permit violates city code, Craddock said. All the equipment installation was made by Pogo Productions prior to XTO's purchase of the site."

According to the Municiple Code, if your house was within 100 ft of the drilling, then you are definately within the 200ft buffer from a hydrocarbon storage tank, above ground or not! Looks like Farnsworth might be right.

Here is the link to the Municiple Code, Chapter 19 regulates well sites. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp...
thanks

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Jul 22, 2008
CodeCompliance wrote:
<quoted text>
Straight from the article, a quote from XTO:
"The site does have a hydrocarbon storage tank installed above ground, which without a special permit violates city code, Craddock said. All the equipment installation was made by Pogo Productions prior to XTO's purchase of the site."
According to the Municiple Code, if your house was within 100 ft of the drilling, then you are definately within the 200ft buffer from a hydrocarbon storage tank, above ground or not! Looks like Farnsworth might be right.
Here is the link to the Municiple Code, Chapter 19 regulates well sites. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.municode.com/Resources/gateway.asp...
Thats all fine and well, but what does a person do about it????
Code Compliance

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Jul 22, 2008
thanks wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats all fine and well, but what does a person do about it????
You may want to join the fight with Farnsworth Development. Don't allow any one to sweep this under the rug.

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