Xcel hopes more customers will turn t...

Xcel hopes more customers will turn to Savers Switch

There are 24 comments on the 9NEWS story from Jul 3, 2008, titled Xcel hopes more customers will turn to Savers Switch. In it, 9NEWS reports that:

Xcel Energy customers can help reduce peak electricity demand by enrolling in the Savers Switch program.

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Robert

Englewood, CO

#1 Jul 22, 2008
Keep in mind that although XCel gives you $25 it might actually cost you more money in the long run. Your A/C only turns on when it needs to cool your house. This includes the FAN that circulates the air and the condenser which actually cools the air. XCel turns off the condenser which means that although your house needs to be cooled more you are just wasting electricity as the fan keep circulating air trying to cool the house. Once they turn back on the condenser the fan needs to run even longer now to get the temp down to where you wanted it.
david01

Boulder, CO

#2 Jul 30, 2008
what a crock of crap!!!!!!! SAVER SWITCH'S????? Those are a SCAM and RIP OFF!!!! Anything xSTEAL suggests do not do it!!!!!!! All that worthless monopoly cares about is making money for the state of minnesota's welfare.... NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!
ALJ

Duluth, MN

#3 Jul 23, 2010
Robert wrote:
Keep in mind that although XCel gives you $25 it might actually cost you more money in the long run. Your A/C only turns on when it needs to cool your house. This includes the FAN that circulates the air and the condenser which actually cools the air. XCel turns off the condenser which means that although your house needs to be cooled more you are just wasting electricity as the fan keep circulating air trying to cool the house. Once they turn back on the condenser the fan needs to run even longer now to get the temp down to where you wanted it.
you said that the switch shuts of the condenser and fan, but then you say the fan still continues to run, actually you choose whether or not the fan circulates the air
Lulu

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Aug 8, 2010
I've had the Saver Switch for about 5 years. I get full sun all after noon. The house does heat up on hot days when they are shutting down the air conditioner for about 15 minutes every hour. However - even though that is not a pleasant experience - the fact that my bills all summer hover around $100 rather than $250-$300 because I run the air alot - makes it worth it - especially when it IS really hot and I have it turned way way down to keep it cool in here. This summer I've only noticed it heating up in here one day when I had it set at 79 because I forgot I had the saver switch :)
david01

Aurora, CO

#5 Aug 16, 2010
Dont do it!!!!!!!!!! terrible thing the saver switch.... Its like being told when to use the bathroom or when to eat....(After all this crap from xsteal they still try to find ways to CONTROL people)
ihatexcel

Denver, CO

#6 Sep 10, 2010
these people are extorsionists charge what they feel whether you use it or not! i live in a 2bedroom apt, yes i ran the a.c in june but saw the bill and stopped. went and bought 2 fans (small box)guess what my bill was still $300
david01

Aurora, CO

#7 Oct 1, 2010
I will say this txu energy is as shitty as xsteal is!!!! utility companies all suck ass!
LCResident

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Nov 15, 2010
The whole idea of privately held public utilities is idiotic. Anyone dumb enough to let a corporation control critical services deserves the misery they get. Government might be cumbersome, but corporations are criminal.
Texas Kicks Ass

Muskogee, OK

#9 Apr 14, 2011
LCResident wrote:
The whole idea of privately held public utilities is idiotic. Anyone dumb enough to let a corporation control critical services deserves the misery they get. Government might be cumbersome, but corporations are criminal.
You libs never surprise me. Govt is not the key to everything nor anything. It's proven over and over and over that the more the Govt gets involved the worse things get. Have some common sense man. Wake up and do whats right for your country and not for you and your green piece, left libs. If it wasn't for private companies you wouldn't have a job. Oh yeah, or the other 85% of the country. Get a life.
just got pushy xcel call

Denver, CO

#10 Jun 9, 2011
Just got a pushy xcel saver's switch call.

Curious about monitoring of my usage. Also curious, is it using microwave to send the signal? or what?

@ the individual above me, there are great examples of models for public utilities that save citizens money, such as the in Cleveland Ohio, when where the city utility saved the city an estimated $195 million between 1985 and 1995.
david01

Aurora, CO

#11 Aug 4, 2011
Do not use any thing xsteal recommends... They are dishonest and are crooks....Contact your state lawmakers for an audit of these a-holes...
Say no

Denver, CO

#12 Sep 2, 2011
We tried it and it was terrible! The saver switch would shut off our AC on the very hottest days of the year. We had no AC when we needed it most and had no control over turning the AC back on. Now I see they are forcing 1 year contracts on this crappy thing. Probably because no one can tolerate it for too long. I am all for saving energy but the incentive programs should really give the customer more control.

Since: Nov 11

Denver, CO

#13 Nov 14, 2011
Although I agree with the deregulation being a bad idea comments. The saver switch works fine on my home for the last 10Yrs. The switch was only activated once last season and when it did my furnace fan ran for 5 min. after it shut off my outside condenser. This is good because it draws cool air from the still cold A-coil in my system and along with it cool air from my basement. My home goes up an extra degree or two when they switch. I have no problems with it.
Once i thought i had a problem with it and they sent out a guy that looked over the system and changed a capacitor for free even though it was unrelated. So I kind of look at them like a free maint. plan for my A/C. The only thing they told me is they don't do freon or the big overhauls to systems that are caused from old age or lightning and things like that.
david01

Aurora, CO

#14 Nov 26, 2011
xcel asking for another increase in jan. 2012 What a-holes!
The Truth

Denver, CO

#15 May 26, 2012
Texas doesn't really kick ass... He/She gets there ass kicked consistently on a regular basis because he/she is asleep(and at this point may never wake up to the truth). When will you grow up and quit having mommy and daddy control your life. Be a responsible adult and take control of your actions!! Oh yeah, you are right about one thing... Of course we have jobs via big corporations (ran by the government and the richest families in the world because your a SLAVE!!). Grow up learn how to become a REAL community. Educated your self and your children. Learn how to build homes, grown your own food, make your own clothes and etc. Then maybe one day you'll stop asking and depending on mommy and daddy (the government)to control your life. You really need to study and learn who you are. I'm not mad at you though. Let those who have eyes see and those who have ears hear.
The Truth

Denver, CO

#16 May 26, 2012
That goes for everyone... Stop being controlled and be in control.
austins

Englewood, CO

#17 Jul 5, 2012
ALJ wrote:
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you said that the switch shuts of the condenser and fan, but then you say the fan still continues to run, actually you choose whether or not the fan circulates the air
The blower fan runs on your furnace/air handler. The condenser is the unit outside, which houses the compressor and the condenser fan. That is what gets shut down. However, regardless of whether the outside condenser is cutoff from power, your inside blower keeps running even though the evaporative coil is not cold. Therefore, the air your blower is moving is costing you money, but not cooling your home at all.
JASCOTX

Denver, CO

#18 Jul 23, 2012
There was a saver switch installed on a home we purchased. As the new homeowners neither the previous owners nor Xcel informed us that the switch was there and potentially operable. We NEVER gave Xcel authority to enact the switch when we established our new account, and we never saw any indication of a discount on our bill. Yet, one day when I came home the furnace fan was running nonstop and the house was over 82F. I tried everything to get the A/C running again. Then, I called Xcel when I saw the blinking light on the switch outside. Xcel told me that I would have to wait until 7 pm to turn back on my A/C. I told them we did NOT want the switch to be activated ever again. They indicated it would be deactivated that day. Next day, same scenario. Called Xcel again and told them to come out and remove the damn switch for good. They had the nerve to tell me they would charge if we ever wanted it re-installed. I just laughed. I'm an engineer, so I know a little about heat transfer and the inefficiencies associated with trying to cool your whole house from 82F to 72F versus keeping it at constant 77F throughout the day and cooling to 72F. Their 15% discount doesn't cover what it actually costs the customer. What the switch DOES do is free up PEAK DEMAND (load) for Xcel to sell off to commercial accounts. Essentially, it's just a money maker for Xcel Energy...all at the expense and convenience of the customer. Xcel, you can take your saver switch and stick it where the sun don't shine!!! I'll cool my house when and how I want to! And, if I want to save money, I'll just turn the damn thermostat down myself.
JASCOTX

Denver, CO

#19 Jul 23, 2012
Just a note, if you want Xcel to "prioritize" the removal of a Saver Switch, tell the operator you talk to that there are "disconnected and bare hanging wires from the unit, you don't know how to turn the power off, and that it is located in an area where kids normally play." Xcel will be out the very next day to remove it...trust me.
pat

Denver, CO

#20 Aug 23, 2013
this is a good idea and it works fine whats wrong is most people are too stupid and political to understand and incapable of thinking clearly or thinking at all for themselves.
i get up and do it my self every 15 or 20 minutes manually i turn off the compressor which is fan only setting and the air stays cool for 10 to 15 minutes for free then i hit the cool button back on for another 15 or so minutes when the air is coming out good and cold then off again simple. i also do itin my car and get better mileage and power, if u are too lazy or dumb to do this the switch does if for your lazy fat dumbass!
don't be too blind to understand its simple!
in your car just hit the ac button with fan running and cycle it your self, the house ac stays cooler longer because it has longer ducts and a bigger compressor.

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