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The Enternal Phenom

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#1 Jul 29, 2009
is cm punk losing crediblity

“The Matthew Owen”

Since: Jul 09

Bromley

#2 Jul 29, 2009
depends on what kind of fan you are.
realt

Dublin, Ireland

#3 Jul 29, 2009
No i don't think so.
dabadguy

Houston, TX

#4 Jul 29, 2009
I don't think he is if you ask me he gets a little to much along with Jeff Hardy. However I believe if he would have beaten Jeff Hardy Sunday it would have really helped him out more.

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Since: Aug 08

Vista, CA

#5 Jul 29, 2009
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I dont think so, plus it would have rehashed the Jeff Hardy cant win the title storyline, which was lame the first time around.

If Hardy is going to be the guy to promote CM Punk as a serious heel, creative at least knows that they cant bury Hardy to do it. He has to win sometimes too. Although I think at SummerSlam that Hardy will lose the blet again, probably to CM Punk, and hopefully Taker will come back to feud with Punk.

A fued with Taker will put anybody over as a heel, plus I think Pepsi has what it takes to carry Takers slow dead ass through the matches.
dabadguy

Houston, TX

#6 Jul 29, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
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I dont think so, plus it would have rehashed the Jeff Hardy cant win the title storyline, which was lame the first time around.
If Hardy is going to be the guy to promote CM Punk as a serious heel, creative at least knows that they cant bury Hardy to do it. He has to win sometimes too. Although I think at SummerSlam that Hardy will lose the blet again, probably to CM Punk, and hopefully Taker will come back to feud with Punk.
A fued with Taker will put anybody over as a heel, plus I think Pepsi has what it takes to carry Takers slow dead ass through the matches.
Yeah I didn't mind Hardy winning it I just didn't want him to win at Night of Champions. I think he should have had a match with Punk at Summerslam with a losser leaves WWE match and Hardy would lose being that he might take time off. Then when he returns in 2010 if Punk is still champ then the fued can continue. And yeah I see Hardy losing his title at Summerslam anyway so I guess.

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#7 Jul 29, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
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I dont think so, plus it would have rehashed the Jeff Hardy cant win the title storyline, which was lame the first time around.
If Hardy is going to be the guy to promote CM Punk as a serious heel, creative at least knows that they cant bury Hardy to do it. He has to win sometimes too. Although I think at SummerSlam that Hardy will lose the blet again, probably to CM Punk, and hopefully Taker will come back to feud with Punk.
A fued with Taker will put anybody over as a heel, plus I think Pepsi has what it takes to carry Takers slow dead ass through the matches.
but if punk can't even beat jeff hardy cleanly, how do you even expect him to be in the same ring as taker. He DID lose credibility aat NOC.

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Since: Aug 08

Vista, CA

#9 Jul 29, 2009
dala wrote:
<quoted text>but if punk can't even beat jeff hardy cleanly, how do you even expect him to be in the same ring as taker. He DID lose credibility aat NOC.
When was the last time that Edge won a match cleanly? Does anyone even remember. Heel's are supposed to cheat, that is what makes them heels. They dont need to be able to win matches cleanly, it isnt in their character. The feud with Taker could see Pepsi screwing Taker a few good times, before Taker owns his ass at the end (which is normal for Taker). But it would make Punk a monster heel, since Edge is most likely return face.
dabadguy wrote:
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Yeah I didn't mind Hardy winning it I just didn't want him to win at Night of Champions. I think he should have had a match with Punk at Summerslam with a losser leaves WWE match and Hardy would lose being that he might take time off. Then when he returns in 2010 if Punk is still champ then the fued can continue. And yeah I see Hardy losing his title at Summerslam anyway so I guess.
I dont see Punk holding on to it that time. Jericho isnt going to stay in the tag division long, and with SD being short on Edge, they arent going to leave the main event to just one heel. Most likely Taker will return, and hold the belt for a while, but hopefully will lose it before the end of the year.

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#10 Jul 29, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
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When was the last time that Edge won a match cleanly? Does anyone even remember. Heel's are supposed to cheat, that is what makes them heels. They dont need to be able to win matches cleanly, it isnt in their character. The feud with Taker could see Pepsi screwing Taker a few good times, before Taker owns his ass at the end (which is normal for Taker). But it would make Punk a monster heel, since Edge is most likely return face.
Your point is true about the whole heels not winnig clean things, but come on, its just jeff hardy, at the bash punk didn't win, and he lost to him at NOC.....they gave him a shitty title reign last year, and this year too. I would've had punk win at NOC cleanly, then screw jef by cheatling somehow on SD. Then have jeff finally beat him at Summerslam to win a title, jeff defends on SD in a triple threat against punk and morrison and reatins, but loses in a scramble match at unforgiven where punk regains...then of course have him feud with taker.

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Vista, CA

#11 Jul 29, 2009
That would have been epicly better than what went down I do agree. However, the problem with over half of that is that Hardy is still on the day-to-day contract as far as I have heard. He doesnt want to sign another year long+ deal, because he wants to take a break.

Personally I dont see why they are wasting their time trying to convince him not to, but planning a three month long feud only to have him quit after SummerSlam would be a waste of everyone's time. I think that is why they put the strap on him now, and I think he will lose it at SummerSlam for sure.

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#12 Jul 30, 2009
i dont think so

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Castle Bam!

#13 Jul 30, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
<quoted text>
When was the last time that Edge won a match cleanly? Does anyone even remember. Heel's are supposed to cheat, that is what makes them heels. They dont need to be able to win matches cleanly, it isnt in their character. The feud with Taker could see Pepsi screwing Taker a few good times, before Taker owns his ass at the end (which is normal for Taker). But it would make Punk a monster heel, since Edge is most likely return face.
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I dont see Punk holding on to it that time. Jericho isnt going to stay in the tag division long, and with SD being short on Edge, they arent going to leave the main event to just one heel. Most likely Taker will return, and hold the belt for a while, but hopefully will lose it before the end of the year.
This makes me lol for the pure fact that thinking back to all of Edge's 9 world title wins, they all involved some form of cheating.

NYR 06 - Cashed in MitB on Cena after Elim. Chamber

RAW 06 - Hits Cena with belt, pins a Pre-FU'ed RVD

SD 07 - Cashed in MitB on Taker after Cage Match

Armageddon 07 - Use of Hawkins & Ryder. Woo, woo, woo...you know it!

Extreme Rules 08 - Hawkins, Ryder, Chavo & Neely all interfere

Survivor Series 08 - Steals way into Triple Threat Match

Rumble 09 - Matt screws Jeff, Edge picks up pieces

NWO 09 - Smashes Kofi, wins RAW EC

Backlash 09 (I think)- big assist from the Show, last man standing.

It's like a dream heel resume!

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Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#14 Jul 30, 2009
ratedRsuperstar wrote:
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This makes me lol for the pure fact that thinking back to all of Edge's 9 world title wins, they all involved some form of cheating.
NYR 06 - Cashed in MitB on Cena after Elim. Chamber
RAW 06 - Hits Cena with belt, pins a Pre-FU'ed RVD
SD 07 - Cashed in MitB on Taker after Cage Match
Armageddon 07 - Use of Hawkins & Ryder. Woo, woo, woo...you know it!
Extreme Rules 08 - Hawkins, Ryder, Chavo & Neely all interfere
Survivor Series 08 - Steals way into Triple Threat Match
Rumble 09 - Matt screws Jeff, Edge picks up pieces
NWO 09 - Smashes Kofi, wins RAW EC
Backlash 09 (I think)- big assist from the Show, last man standing.
It's like a dream heel resume!
The same is in the case of Orton. I don't remember a single match in recent past that Orton has won without the help of Legacy. WWE is now making heels look like cowards.

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#15 Jul 30, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
That would have been epicly better than what went down I do agree. However, the problem with over half of that is that Hardy is still on the day-to-day contract as far as I have heard. He doesnt want to sign another year long+ deal, because he wants to take a break.
Personally I dont see why they are wasting their time trying to convince him not to, but planning a three month long feud only to have him quit after SummerSlam would be a waste of everyone's time. I think that is why they put the strap on him now, and I think he will lose it at SummerSlam for sure.
I don't think we have to worry about that prblem anymore, hardy is adevertised for events and appearences in october and november, these events were actually edge's so it looks like hardy has decided to stay till edge returns. There are new rumors that he may have resigned a contract that has more income and title clauses...hence his win at NOC.

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#16 Jul 30, 2009
ratedRsuperstar wrote:
<quoted text>
This makes me lol for the pure fact that thinking back to all of Edge's 9 world title wins, they all involved some form of cheating.
NYR 06 - Cashed in MitB on Cena after Elim. Chamber
RAW 06 - Hits Cena with belt, pins a Pre-FU'ed RVD
SD 07 - Cashed in MitB on Taker after Cage Match
Armageddon 07 - Use of Hawkins & Ryder. Woo, woo, woo...you know it!
Extreme Rules 08 - Hawkins, Ryder, Chavo & Neely all interfere
Survivor Series 08 - Steals way into Triple Threat Match
Rumble 09 - Matt screws Jeff, Edge picks up pieces
NWO 09 - Smashes Kofi, wins RAW EC
Backlash 09 (I think)- big assist from the Show, last man standing.
It's like a dream heel resume!
the NWO title win was pretty fair, he only took kofi's place, but won the Elimination chamber fair n square....and then he went on to beat kofi on smackodown by making kofi TAP out, then pinned kofi on wwe superstars.

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#17 Jul 30, 2009
Indian Cena Fan wrote:
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The same is in the case of Orton. I don't remember a single match in recent past that Orton has won without the help of Legacy. WWE is now making heels look like cowards.
well its PG so they're trying to make the heels look like cowardly villians and the faces like superheroes.
dabadguy

Houston, TX

#18 Jul 30, 2009
Indian Cena Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
The same is in the case of Orton. I don't remember a single match in recent past that Orton has won without the help of Legacy. WWE is now making heels look like cowards.
Orton beat Benoit and I think Triple H fair for the title didn,t he. I forgot but I know he beat benoit fair but yeah all heels are pu$$ys now with the exception of Chris Jericho and Triple H when he turns heel because you know he can't look less dominate than any wrestler.

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Vista, CA

#19 Jul 30, 2009
dala wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think we have to worry about that prblem anymore, hardy is adevertised for events and appearences in october and november, these events were actually edge's so it looks like hardy has decided to stay till edge returns. There are new rumors that he may have resigned a contract that has more income and title clauses...hence his win at NOC.
I havent heard any contract info, since we started his week to week stuff. Just because he is advertised doesnt mean he is going to actually sit around for those. The guy has been known to no-show if he doesnt feel like wrestling anymore.

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#20 Jul 30, 2009
jhalcrjb wrote:
<quoted text>
I havent heard any contract info, since we started his week to week stuff. Just because he is advertised doesnt mean he is going to actually sit around for those. The guy has been known to no-show if he doesnt feel like wrestling anymore.
well stating for some months till edge returns isn't gonna bother him much, it shouldn't because he is needed in the SD main event scene.

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Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#21 Jul 30, 2009
dala wrote:
<quoted text>well its PG so they're trying to make the heels look like cowardly villians and the faces like superheroes.
Hey, man. Long time no see! What's up? No hello or hi even?

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