Whole Foods moving forward with new M...

Whole Foods moving forward with new Mill Valley store

There are 22 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Oct 8, 2008, titled Whole Foods moving forward with new Mill Valley store. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

A second Whole Foods Market in Mill Valley is scheduled to open in October 2009, according to representatives for the national chain.

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donald

Sausalito, CA

#1 Oct 8, 2008
I dont believe them, lying is a standard corporate technique.
Nick

San Rafael, CA

#2 Oct 8, 2008
Absolutely NOTHING has happened at that store for the last nine months. I go by there and look in every day. Whole Foods just is sitting on the lease to keep Trader Joes out of Mill Valley. If you shop at W.F. go to Trader Joe's and buy the same quantity of items, same organic quality. You will pay half as much. This is why it's cost effective for W.F. to lease the site to keep T.J.'s out.
Nick

San Rafael, CA

#3 Oct 8, 2008
Whole Foods is the evil empire. They want to become the Wal-Mart of high end food. They demand, and get 20% discounts on bread and other delivered products. They then sell the bread for the same price as other groceries that get no discount, such as Mill Valley Market. I'll buy the bread at M.V.Market thanks, the staff are unionized, get vacations, benefits, are pleasant, don't have facial junkyards and indeterminate gender like some at W.F. I feel sorry for the people working at W.F., they are stressed, detest their manager and end up going to other stores when they can no longer stand it. Keeping Trader Joe's out is very important to W.F. Ask yourself, why would they open a store that would take business away from another W.F. just a mile away?
Darcy

Albany, CA

#4 Oct 9, 2008
...And the audience bought this ?

Lies, Lies, Lies.
Let's recap;
Two years, Zero movement inside, no plans submitted to the city.
Inquiries every few months, same story over and over again.
How many times do you people need to hear "moving forward" and "on track" with no evidence what so ever that it's going to happen and lots of evidence it's not.(Lots of stories of them being sued for committing in the last two years and backing out)

It's not coming and I doubt Novato is either.
What you see being built in Novato is nowhere near to the point where a ground floor tenant (WF) is even thinking about building their store.
I've heard that location is one they are backing out of because they have a serious cash flow problem NOT because of the economy, but of their own doing.

When will these landlords and cities grow some backbone and make it so you can't sit on an empty same for years because it's small change in your big picture.

Serve the community for God's sakes, empty spaces bring the whole community down.

And why is no one talking about the same thing happening in the opposite way to Trader Joe's in Larkspur. Larkspur is to blame there. TJ's now is years behing schedule (as to when/if it might open as to when it was supposed to)
Mary

Albany, CA

#5 Oct 9, 2008
They said they will "spruce up" the outside.

In the industry, we call that "buying time" until we figure out what we're doing.

All the people want is movement either inside or at the permits desk downtown, and they don't plan on that so they offer to spruce up.

Forget spruce up, You people should wise up.
Gerald

Albany, CA

#6 Oct 9, 2008
I didn't go to the meetin because I knew this would happen.
Words don't mean anything if there is not action, and there never has been.

Did you go ? Let me guess, You heard; "We understand your concerns, and..."
How many times has the same exact response been recorded on record and for how long ?

The old line is...burn me once, burn me twice, and.....
This is turning into burn me five times, burn me six....

I never believed any of it, and I feel like a fool. What do you folks who keep accepting this Obama talk think ?
Eddie

San Francisco, CA

#7 Oct 9, 2008
Hey Mill Valley, take a look at the beautiful Whole Foods structure in Novato. Why do city governments continue to bend the rules and kiss the butt of these corporations. Because Whole Foods is "healthy" does this make them feel better? Send 'em packing.
94903 Land

Alviso, CA

#8 Oct 9, 2008
"The Mill Valley site would fill Alto Shopping Center. The space, previously occupied by Albertsons, has been vacant for more than two years."

Interesting that there is no mention of associated condos on top of the Whole Foods like the massive mixed-use project going up in Novato. I thought all developers claim that you can't have a project these days without having condos for sale and that just a grocery store/retail "doesn't pencil out" (i.e. they can't make enough profit) Look at the Whole Foods monstrocity in Novato - 3-stories of 130 condos on top of Whole Foods and other retail. Oh wait...that's right. This is Mill Valley. They wouldn't have anything to do with a high-density, mixed-use development - let San Rafael and points north take all the additional housing required in the new countywide plan. Thanks Supe. McGlashan for watching out for your community!
94903 Land

Alviso, CA

#9 Oct 9, 2008
Eddie wrote:
Hey Mill Valley, take a look at the beautiful Whole Foods structure in Novato. Why do city governments continue to bend the rules and kiss the butt of these corporations. Because Whole Foods is "healthy" does this make them feel better? Send 'em packing.
You are SO right! Tell them to take a big hike! They are overpriced and no different than any other big corporation. Look how that whole Whole Foods project is ruining downtown Novato!
94903 Land

Alviso, CA

#10 Oct 9, 2008
Darcy wrote:
...It's not coming and I doubt Novato is either. What you see being built in Novato is nowhere near to the point where a ground floor tenant (WF) is even thinking about building their store. I've heard that location is one they are backing out of because they have a serious cash flow problem NOT because of the economy, but of their own doing.
When will these landlords and cities grow some backbone and make it so you can't sit on an empty same for years because it's small change in your big picture.
Serve the community for God's sakes, empty spaces bring the whole community down.
And why is no one talking about the same thing happening in the opposite way to Trader Joe's in Larkspur. Larkspur is to blame there. TJ's now is years behing schedule (as to when/if it might open as to when it was supposed to)
I agree with you about how greedy landlords and landowners just let things stay vacant. But Whole Foods IS going in Novato - the place is halfway built and there are a ton of condos on top. That development has ruined downtown Novato. The shopping center in Marinwood has been vacant now for 4 years ever since Bell Market left but old man G. Hoytt doesn't give a rat's a** about the community and let's the thing just sit and fester. He doesn't even clean it up despite numerous requests from the County. There is graffiti, old broken glass, mattresses, homeless people hanging out, drug dealing...you name it. Right in that beautiful community where kids used to ride their bikes down and get a soda or ice cream after school. It's a damn shame. No one cares anymore.
noryelmel

Lima, Peru

#11 Oct 9, 2008
Yeah, like Mill Valley really needs a new overpriced market!
I'm amazed that people will shop at those places when they can get the same items for so much less at other markets.
I guess it's better than Oliver's or other such pretentious markets.
I think it's time for Marinites to get their heads out of the clouds.Many of us are old enough to remember when Mill Valley was a simpler, more relaxed place with less elitist values.
Mike

San Rafael, CA

#12 Oct 10, 2008
Responding to what appears to be a lot of hostility towards WF in all 11 posts above: my wife and I suspected from the beginning that Whole Foods outbid TJ's & bought the lease just to keep TJ's out. It couldn't be more obvious. Most TJ's employees in San Rafael will confirm this w/o hesitation; they know all about it. As for us, we'd rather drive from MV to central San Rafael on NASCAR Track #101 on Friday afternoon at 3 p.m. to shop at TJ's than walk one block (we live close) to WF to pick up a few things that are almost competitively priced. Why else don't I like WF? Simple. There are so many shoppers there who have no idea how to push a cart around intelligently, I get claustrophobic and frustrated and can't move around efficiently. Maybe they could figure out a way to make their aisles narrower? In all honesty I must say that I've never found their employees impolite, but I have dealt with several who have severe shortcomings in the personality department. I read sometime within the last year that the MV Whole Foods is the most profitable one in their empire. If they say so! But it's hard to believe. The store we love to hate! But I wish I owned their stock!
Flashymatt

Fremont, CA

#13 Jun 13, 2009
Whole foods is kinda nice, two would be nicer...
Grandpa Willie

Livermore, CA

#14 Jun 13, 2009
noryelmel wrote:
Many of us are old enough to remember when Mill Valley was a simpler, more relaxed place with less elitist values.
When I was a young lad, it took you two hours to get from the Depot to Manzanita. And that was if you could fight off the indians.
PaulB22

San Anselmo, CA

#15 Jun 13, 2009
No , still no action started yet for the new Whole Foods. Some people think that Whole Foods is trying to keep Trader Joe's out of Mill Valley but that is not true. The former Lucky/Albertson's store is a large space and Trader Joe's has a blueprint for all their stores that only calls for half the space of the old Albertsons, so they would have to sublet half of the store to someone else. Joey's business plan has proved to be very successful based on the formula used at their other stores. Take a look at their stores in San Rafael and Novato, they are small compared to most grocery stores. The existing Whole Foods in Mill Valley occupies the old Lee Brothers market and it is small too. Skinny isles and checkout lanes, but they have plenty of checkers so people move through there quickly, but I wish they would open a bigger store in the Alto Center.
RandomKid

Petaluma, CA

#16 Nov 22, 2009
Nick your an idiot. I work at Whole Foods and its one of the best and most enjoyable jobs I've ever had. I'm glad its not union too, I don't want to be forced into paying bs union fees, and I wouldn't work there if I had to. If you don't like Whole Foods go somewhere else. Unlike the government, Whole Foods won't force you to do things against your will.
Martina2

Santa Rosa, CA

#17 Nov 22, 2009
except for the everyday high prices, Whole Foods is a great store.
TimesChange

AOL

#18 Nov 23, 2009
Whole Foods sells good food at reasonable prices, does not have cash flow problems, and their stock is doing just fine.

Sounds like some of you folks can't afford to live in Marin and times are tough, so each to their own.

Do miss the Red Cart though.
OMG

Mission Viejo, CA

#20 Nov 20, 2011
oxnard has never been finished, anybody know anything about that???

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#21 Nov 25, 2011
There is not a WF in Spokane WA. The biggest small town between Missoula MT and Seattle WA of almost 500K. And WF says they want to put another one in Mill Valley with a pop of 14K !

Someone is lying to us.

If they really wanted to move into another bigger location, WF should just come clean about their intentions.

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