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LoCoManager

West Hartford, CT

#1 Feb 5, 2012
STL position eliminated. Key holder position created. Former stl can apply. It pays a little less, but unlimited opens/closes/refunds/etc. If stores dont meet goals the members of mgmt most responsible for not meeting goals get write-up. If no improve-fired. This is the "attrition" that was previously mentioned. 3 yrs until restructure complete.
mmmmk

United States

#2 Feb 5, 2012
LoCoManager wrote:
STL position eliminated. Key holder position created. Former stl can apply. It pays a little less, but unlimited opens/closes/refunds/etc. If stores dont meet goals the members of mgmt most responsible for not meeting goals get write-up. If no improve-fired. This is the "attrition" that was previously mentioned. 3 yrs until restructure complete.


It pays less than stl or mgt now? Cause stls dont make that much now?
Anon

Lincolnton, NC

#3 Feb 5, 2012
LoCoManager wrote:
STL position eliminated. Key holder position created. Former stl can apply. It pays a little less, but unlimited opens/closes/refunds/etc. If stores dont meet goals the members of mgmt most responsible for not meeting goals get write-up. If no improve-fired. This is the "attrition" that was previously mentioned. 3 yrs until restructure complete.
I'm sorry but theres no damn way the "keyholder" position can make less than an STL and be a successful position. "Loco" is Right pendejo.
Notconfused

United States

#4 Feb 5, 2012
Yea...... Loco you need to check your facts. Not going to happen.
shermy

Houston, TX

#5 Feb 5, 2012
as I put on Mark's Blog just recently -- topix - the tabloid of the blog sites -- where only 10% of what you read is true
Wag slave 16925480

Oceanside, CA

#6 Feb 5, 2012
Sounds about write to me
New STL

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Feb 5, 2012
LoCoManager wrote:
STL position eliminated. Key holder position created. Former stl can apply. It pays a little less, but unlimited opens/closes/refunds/etc. If stores dont meet goals the members of mgmt most responsible for not meeting goals get write-up. If no improve-fired. This is the "attrition" that was previously mentioned. 3 yrs until restructure complete.
I already do these "unlimited opens/closes/refunds/etc" in my store now as an STL, I am considered a member of management, just like the two assistants that we have (no, we aren't getting an exa right now) In my old store the STL did not do management tasks and wasn't respected as a member of management and I'm sure that isn't the only store in that situation. So having to do those tasks would make no difference to me. And there's no way a "kyeholder" will pay "a little less" than an STL, no way. I should be making what the assistants make now and even that is nothing to brag about in my district. You must be meaning that the keyholder position will be less than current MGT pay.
LoCoManager

Danvers, MA

#8 Feb 6, 2012
So sorry New STL. The STL job description had read 1 open &1 close,3 shifts of sims coordinator work... Well at least they they have you prepared for the future. Meant the low end of starting pay range would be a little less not that they would not consider you for the new position at your current rate. Just don't think they will b promoting you to MGT. Cause mgt and dodos share a common future.
New STL

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Feb 6, 2012
LoCoManager wrote:
So sorry New STL. The STL job description had read 1 open &1 close,3 shifts of sims coordinator work... Well at least they they have you prepared for the future. Meant the low end of starting pay range would be a little less not that they would not consider you for the new position at your current rate. Just don't think they will b promoting you to MGT. Cause mgt and dodos share a common future.
My store manager and my Cl have both mentioned to me about still being able to be promoted to management but if the rumors are true, I just consider that they are covering for that or that they are really unaware of what's supposed to happen. And I was told by my store manager when I was promoted to STL that he will start me on two MGT shifts per week and if I get better at them, I'll be getting more. This is my last week of only having two shifts. I do hope the rumors aren't true about MGT but if so, I can't afford to be an stl or keyholder forever.
GaSTL

Warner Robins, GA

#10 Feb 6, 2012
New STL wrote:
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My store manager and my Cl have both mentioned to me about still being able to be promoted to management but if the rumors are true, I just consider that they are covering for that or that they are really unaware of what's supposed to happen. And I was told by my store manager when I was promoted to STL that he will start me on two MGT shifts per week and if I get better at them, I'll be getting more. This is my last week of only having two shifts. I do hope the rumors aren't true about MGT but if so, I can't afford to be an stl or keyholder forever.
I am a fairly new STL in the exact same boat as you and with the encouragement of my SM that I will make MGT very soon. With all thats going on now, I am not holding my breath. I will ride it out through summer and see how things are shaping up for opportunities. If it turns out like so many are speculating, I cant pretend to be making a living on this pay any longer.
New STL

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Feb 6, 2012
GaSTL wrote:
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I am a fairly new STL in the exact same boat as you and with the encouragement of my SM that I will make MGT very soon. With all thats going on now, I am not holding my breath. I will ride it out through summer and see how things are shaping up for opportunities. If it turns out like so many are speculating, I cant pretend to be making a living on this pay any longer.
If we stay STL's or are turned into keyholders, we might make $1 -$2 more but I guess that would be it, other than our annual raise. The assistant manager position would be perfect for me right now, so I will be very upset if it is true that it will be eliminated. And one of the assistants in my store has been one for 12 years and was an exa but stepped down, so I also think of how much it would affect her and others like her. I know starting a family or anything of that nature would be out the window if I found out that I don't have anymore options to move up.

“The Papers said I was Truant”

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#12 Feb 6, 2012
shermy wrote:
as I put on Mark's Blog just recently -- topix - the tabloid of the blog sites -- where only 10% of what you read is true
As someone else put on the blog 2 or 3 weeks ago, most of the stuff that comes out of here actually happens.

It's amazing how people can just type things and act like that makes them true.

Next, let's divide by zero.
STL-PH

United States

#13 Feb 6, 2012
There are quite a few STL's that are left over from the SIMS Coordinator position. In my experience they are older and flat out refuse to do the STL duties like cash counting, cash reports, etc... Have you ever been to one of the STL meetings? Not pretty. But I'd be livid if I had to interview for my job for less pay, already I feel wildly under paid. From everything I've heard it's more likely management that will have to interview for their "jobs". I know that severe cuts are coming but you can't cut the STL position any lower,$10 is a joke now. Besides the turnover for these "key holders" will be ridiculous if they make $8-$9 dollars an hour. There will be a heck of a lot of short drawers if that's the case.
Geraldo

Houston, TX

#14 Feb 6, 2012
STL-PH wrote:
There are quite a few STL's that are left over from the SIMS Coordinator position. In my experience they are older and flat out refuse to do the STL duties like cash counting, cash reports, etc... Have you ever been to one of the STL meetings? Not pretty. But I'd be livid if I had to interview for my job for less pay, already I feel wildly under paid. From everything I've heard it's more likely management that will have to interview for their "jobs". I know that severe cuts are coming but you can't cut the STL position any lower,$10 is a joke now. Besides the turnover for these "key holders" will be ridiculous if they make $8-$9 dollars an hour. There will be a heck of a lot of short drawers if that's the case.
Sorry, but your post doesn't make any sense Who's saying that you would get lower pay as a keyholder? If anything you would get paid a little bit more per hour but AT THE VERY LEAST it wouldn't be reduced. If someone is saying that pay for a keyholder would be lower than an STL then that someone is smoking something.
Geraldo

Houston, TX

#15 Feb 6, 2012
Oh now I see. The original poster, who must have been high on something, said that the keyholders would make less than the STL position.
Rock-n-It

Tacoma, WA

#16 Feb 6, 2012
Ok, so this is what I heard from my DM today. Every management position will be hanged from what we know it today. The MGT and STL positions are gone as of June 1, 2012. There is a new position "Store Leader" that will be implemented. All stls will drop down with a new and lower rate of pay and all MGTs are required to reapply for the new position. I cant speculate on what the new rate of pay is, nobody here knows. After both positions are gone, they will start with the EXAs. Their new title will be "Co Manager"and also a new rate of pay. They will be running the store day to day, with a store manager overseeing 2 to 3 stores. EXAs and SM will be required to reapply. With less positions to fill, its going to be very interesting to see who they keep. As I find more out, I will keep you all updated.
Anon

Lincolnton, NC

#17 Feb 6, 2012
Rock-n-It wrote:
Ok, so this is what I heard from my DM today. Every management position will be hanged from what we know it today. The MGT and STL positions are gone as of June 1, 2012. There is a new position "Store Leader" that will be implemented. All stls will drop down with a new and lower rate of pay and all MGTs are required to reapply for the new position. I cant speculate on what the new rate of pay is, nobody here knows. After both positions are gone, they will start with the EXAs. Their new title will be "Co Manager"and also a new rate of pay. They will be running the store day to day, with a store manager overseeing 2 to 3 stores. EXAs and SM will be required to reapply. With less positions to fill, its going to be very interesting to see who they keep. As I find more out, I will keep you all updated.
If they try to make Shift Leaders have management responsibilities on a $10/hr or less wage the retention rate will be abysmal... The stores will turn into Rite Aides with no leadership lol...
Geraldo

Houston, TX

#18 Feb 6, 2012
Rock-n-It wrote:
Ok, so this is what I heard from my DM today. Every management position will be hanged from what we know it today. The MGT and STL positions are gone as of June 1, 2012. There is a new position "Store Leader" that will be implemented. All stls will drop down with a new and lower rate of pay and all MGTs are required to reapply for the new position. I cant speculate on what the new rate of pay is, nobody here knows. After both positions are gone, they will start with the EXAs. Their new title will be "Co Manager"and also a new rate of pay. They will be running the store day to day, with a store manager overseeing 2 to 3 stores. EXAs and SM will be required to reapply. With less positions to fill, its going to be very interesting to see who they keep. As I find more out, I will keep you all updated.
You mean you'll keep us updated on your B.S.
ipad

Houston, TX

#19 Feb 6, 2012
Rock-n-It wrote:
Ok, so this is what I heard from my DM today. Every management position will be hanged from what we know it today. The MGT and STL positions are gone as of June 1, 2012. There is a new position "Store Leader" that will be implemented. All stls will drop down with a new and lower rate of pay and all MGTs are required to reapply for the new position. I cant speculate on what the new rate of pay is, nobody here knows. After both positions are gone, they will start with the EXAs. Their new title will be "Co Manager"and also a new rate of pay. They will be running the store day to day, with a store manager overseeing 2 to 3 stores. EXAs and SM will be required to reapply. With less positions to fill, its going to be very interesting to see who they keep. As I find more out, I will keep you all updated.
so they're going to hit us with this news in the early spring or before and make Walgreens the most depressing place ever in the history of freakin' mankind to work and to have productivity go down to an all time low due to a total lack of morale until June 1 ?? yeah right. the guy before me nailed it. you're full of it
STL-PH

United States

#20 Feb 6, 2012
Geraldo wrote:
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Sorry, but your post doesn't make any sense Who's saying that you would get lower pay as a keyholder? If anything you would get paid a little bit more per hour but AT THE VERY LEAST it wouldn't be reduced. If someone is saying that pay for a keyholder would be lower than an STL then that someone is smoking something.
I was merely adding my two cents to what Loco said, so he was the one smoking that proverbial "something", not I.

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