future MGT/STL/Key holder pay
wagslaveInMadiso n

United States

#64 Mar 1, 2012
CaliManager wrote:
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Until CVS and Rite Aid can prove that their stores can manage without a store manager, WAG SMs aren't going anywhere. Yes, I'm sure there are a ton of store managers out there that are worthless, but you all seem to forget that most of us got to that position because we truly are the best of the best. Sure, we'll probably see some form of cuts, most likely bonuses first then lower starting salaries for new SMs, but highly unlikely that we'll be eliminated any time soon. However, I do believe that with this new 'Managing on Performance' IMPROVE tab, we'll definitely see many of the terrible SMs get booted out to make way for the hot shot ASMs that are still out there. It truly has now become survival of the fittest. If you can find any successful retail chain that functions without an SM, then your argument might be understandable. Until then, good luck with your position, as it is obvious you are a bit worried there pal...
I'm not a store manager and I'm not real worried about my position......but go back to my first post.....what has the company accomplished by changing an mgt in each store over to a tl? They're going to save 5 bucks an hour by one employee-minus any raise you give to an stl. It seems like a ton of commotion and meetings for each store to save a hundred bucks a week? All I'm saying is this can't be the end game.....and I think the new job discriptions say a lot.
STL

Huntington, WV

#65 Mar 1, 2012
Mickey wrote:
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Who paid for your ptcb test? Ive been trying for the last four years to get my sm to pay for mine. I've been told that wags will not pay for the license anymore for wags managers. How did you get them to pay for it since they don't normally do that anymore?
I passed a little over a year ago, and I was told it was required in my state by my district office for anyone who goes into the pharmacy, and therefore, I had to have it. I had to register as a nonsponsered person and foot the bill, but then they immediately paid me back for it.
STL

Augusta, GA

#66 Mar 1, 2012
you are exactly right! I hope we get some kind of pay raise... I knew what I was getting into.. but really its not fair at all!
Mr-Bubbles wrote:
Not trying to start a war between STL's and MGR's here, especially since it looks like you will be one in the same very soon, but in my market, the STL program has been seen as an epic failure by every SM I know. STL's were supposed to do one night per week, but stores immediately had them closing 3+ nights. STL's were supposed to do SIMSC work during their shifts, they all ended up doing MGR tasks. New STL's weren't even trained in the SIMSC tasks in some stores. Now, a year or so after the position has been created, most initial STLs stepped down to regular positions, and the ones who replaced them were just store clerks looking for more hours and a buck more per hour. MGR's were forced to promote anyone interested that would open up their availability, and then trained them how to do returns and drawers then threw them into the MGR rotation.
I believe consolidating the positions is a mistake, if for no other reason than that I mentioned above. MGT's will be forced to do the same job they had before, but most likely for less money. Current STL's will be forced to do more nights than they signed up for, and for the same money. Both sides will be discontented and likely look for new jobs, and then we will be stuck offering the positions to the first able body, because we are now relying on this position to work 80% of the shifts!
notsurprised

Madison, WI

#67 Mar 1, 2012
wagslaveInMadison wrote:
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I'm not a store manager and I'm not real worried about my position......but go back to my first post.....what has the company accomplished by changing an mgt in each store over to a tl? They're going to save 5 bucks an hour by one employee-minus any raise you give to an stl. It seems like a ton of commotion and meetings for each store to save a hundred bucks a week? All I'm saying is this can't be the end game.....and I think the new job discriptions say a lot.
well "200 bucks' a week x 5000 stores for 52 weeks is 52 million dollars , plus don't forget their re-coding the exa position and their pay will be cut and they are also restructuring bonus's of mangers (to less) as well as the new profit sharing structure is also to their advantage.......... I doubt its the end game either......but its a pretty big 'first play'
Stanupforit

United States

#68 Mar 1, 2012
Well I am insulted by all this... Politics is everywhere and it sure is here in the lower south Texas valley. I'm not an exa because I didn't want too but because I'm very outspoken and I refuse to kiss ass . Because of that i haven't gotten promoted. All my evaluations have been great and I still m passed over . I've given up on the exa position I'd rather be an assistant till I decide to leave. Not them telling me I've waited Walgreen time! Well guess what all these years my kids and husband were put second so u Walgreens have really got it confused .

Since: Mar 12

Spring, TX

#69 Mar 1, 2012
Just after I came to WAG the brakes went on for opening new stores. The SM's I interviewed with told be about the bright future. That future seems pretty bleak today. Now I am faced with the option of taking a pay cut, possibly below, no probably well below what I was hired at to do the exact same job. I will also have to lose the management job title I have on my resume while still performing the same management tasks.
Tom

Indian Rocks Beach, FL

#70 Mar 2, 2012
I dont know still alot of rumors out there that in itself is a little troublesome, People work and have worked way to hard for wags to be in the dark. I have always found you get what you pay for in any business. For a short term out of fear people respond but in the long term good people move on or worse yet under perform and stay.. when they feel under compensated. I hope wags doesnt short change its people, I wish we focused half as much on growing our business, focusing on who we are, as we do trying to re-invent the wheel. We are the corner drug store, service, selection fair price, clean stores, friendly staff... its a formula for success, has been for 100 years. Do one thing and do it better than anyone else needs to be our driving force.
NOTWAG

Newark, OH

#71 Mar 2, 2012
WAGin low wrote:
Just after I came to WAG the brakes went on for opening new stores. The SM's I interviewed with told be about the bright future. That future seems pretty bleak today. Now I am faced with the option of taking a pay cut, possibly below, no probably well below what I was hired at to do the exact same job. I will also have to lose the management job title I have on my resume while still performing the same management tasks.
Hello this is reality,The Wasson way.Do you want lube???
NOTWAG

Newark, OH

#72 Mar 2, 2012
Stanupforit wrote:
Well I am insulted by all this... Politics is everywhere and it sure is here in the lower south Texas valley. I'm not an exa because I didn't want too but because I'm very outspoken and I refuse to kiss ass . Because of that i haven't gotten promoted. All my evaluations have been great and I still m passed over . I've given up on the exa position I'd rather be an assistant till I decide to leave. Not them telling me I've waited Walgreen time! Well guess what all these years my kids and husband were put second so u Walgreens have really got it confused .
WOW I don't believe this.Someone with the same story as me.Was it really worht it.We put a company first that will not be their when our family is...what were we thinking?F Walgreens.I'm leaving before the axe falls!!!!!!thats for sure.
GaSTL

Warner Robins, GA

#73 Mar 3, 2012
STL wrote:
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I passed a little over a year ago, and I was told it was required in my state by my district office for anyone who goes into the pharmacy, and therefore, I had to have it. I had to register as a nonsponsered person and foot the bill, but then they immediately paid me back for it.
I dont think you took the ptcb exam. About a year ago I went through the same thing. That was nothing more than a security clearance. Checking your background and getting finger printed to be able to work around controlled drugs. It was about $130 and I was reimbursed as well. PTCB is a Ph Tech class where you have to pass exams. This qualifies you to fill rx and other things. Our EXA is going through it now..SM's have to have this qualification.
thomas edison

Dallas, GA

#74 Mar 3, 2012
GaSTL wrote:
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I dont think you took the ptcb exam. About a year ago I went through the same thing. That was nothing more than a security clearance. Checking your background and getting finger printed to be able to work around controlled drugs. It was about $130 and I was reimbursed as well. PTCB is a Ph Tech class where you have to pass exams. This qualifies you to fill rx and other things. Our EXA is going through it now..SM's have to have this qualification.
The State of Georgia requires anyone who works in pharmacy to have a state license. That is what you guys are probably talking about .
STL

Huntington, WV

#75 Mar 3, 2012
GaSTL wrote:
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I dont think you took the ptcb exam. About a year ago I went through the same thing. That was nothing more than a security clearance. Checking your background and getting finger printed to be able to work around controlled drugs. It was about $130 and I was reimbursed as well. PTCB is a Ph Tech class where you have to pass exams. This qualifies you to fill rx and other things. Our EXA is going through it now..SM's have to have this qualification.
Yes, I went through the required classes through walgreens and passed the Walgreens pre-test. THen had to go to a testing facility to take the ptcb test. I have the national and state certification.
stl

United States

#76 Mar 3, 2012
StL wrote:
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Not all stls have that advantage. I am an stl and am in the weekend rotation (every other) And I sign up for holidays with all the other managers. I had a closing night once a week until they put there foot down and made our store manager close one night a week. Otherwise I do close one weekend a month.. All my other shifts are mostly mid shifts.. So its not likrle that everywhere...
At least your on a rotation! I'm an stl and I work every weekend and worked 3 of the 4 major holidays. So if anyones getting screwed its us stls!
MgtCleveland

United States

#77 Mar 3, 2012
From what i heard are jobs are safe. I'm 70/30 on this. but as a MGT i heard our job title will change which it has to LDR - LEADERS, but our pay will stay the same, however anybody else hired on to walgreens will be paid THE NEW STL/LDR RATE.

But we will all know in a week
Geraldo

United States

#78 Mar 3, 2012
MgtCleveland wrote:
From what i heard are jobs are safe. I'm 70/30 on this. but as a MGT i heard our job title will change which it has to LDR - LEADERS, but our pay will stay the same, however anybody else hired on to walgreens will be paid THE NEW STL/LDR RATE.
But we will all know in a week
...but any current MGT will not be eligible for any future raises in this new position. This will actually be the best case scenerio for any MGT.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#79 Mar 3, 2012
Geraldo wrote:
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...but any current MGT will not be eligible for any future raises in this new position. This will actually be the best case scenerio for any MGT.
Hey km fine with no more raises as long as they don't take any hours or pay.
Wow dude

United States

#80 Mar 3, 2012
GaSTL wrote:
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I dont think you took the ptcb exam. About a year ago I went through the same thing. That was nothing more than a security clearance. Checking your background and getting finger printed to be able to work around controlled drugs. It was about $130 and I was reimbursed as well. PTCB is a Ph Tech class where you have to pass exams. This qualifies you to fill rx and other things. Our EXA is going through it now..SM's have to have this
qualification.
I took the ptcb on my own , didnt waste my time on the wags classes, paid the $129 to pearson vue testing (same facility nationwide for ptcb) passed the test in under 40 minutes, my sm reimbursed me as soon as he saw verification of me passing which you get within 45 seconds of submitting your test
Wow dude

United States

#81 Mar 3, 2012
Btw. Ptcb certification is required to be a sm but , many states will not issue a license soley on that certification, its like a diploma, in many states, u need to be a registered tech to fill, etc...

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#82 Mar 3, 2012
My SM told me about the ASM, ASMT, and TL positions. She also told me that an STL can interview for the ASM position as long as your evaluation is a 3 or better.I am an STL and I can tell you that I can be chosen for that position. It will more than likely be between another assistant mgr and myself. Now if that person does want that position she will get it and I am fine with that. We have both proved ourselves and are both more than likely be considered. So anyways, all u STLs out there that are working hard can have an opportunity to advance into the ASM position, u do not have to automatically be placed in the TL position.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#83 Mar 4, 2012
Mr-Bubbles wrote:
MylarMan, I understand your frustration, and though I do not know your personal background, you might be interested to know one thing. There are markets in this company that REQUIRE MGT's to have a 4yr degree. Maybe you have one, maybe you don't. My point is....
$10/hour is way above minimum wage, and in this economy it is a good wage for the amount of work you described. Closing twice a week and working 3 weekend per month is a good deal in my market. MGT's with degrees and career plans are working every weekend in some markets, closing 4 nights per week on average, and have nothing but pulling bays and hanging ad tags to show for it......My store had 45min of overtime in a 28 day period and got that call. At the same time, we had 170 hours of call offs due to sickness, and not one store responded to requests for employees looking for hours. We made due and had an average of less than 2 minutes of overtime per day and still got a nasty call about it.
My point is, as bad as it must feel to be an STL, it is a position that, as you stated, you interviewed for and accepted the terms. MGT's, EXA's, and especially SM's were initially managers of people, creative merchandisers, and capable of making business decisions. We interviewed to fill those roles. Now, the term glorified stock boy, which used to be a joke amongst the management team, is being made into a reality as they consolidate these positions into the one you interviewed for. I'm not trying to compare grievances with you, but I think you need to understand about the "fairness" of the current environment we all work in. It sucks for all parties involved. Now, the only thing we can do is put our heads down and work through the changes. Those that stop worrying about what is fair and start getting the job done will be the ones who come out ahead. The rest will be stuck in their own mud.
Look, I get it. I am not attempting to compare apples and oranges. I do understand that most STL's are kids who dont give 100% nor do they see the big picture. I was just a bit offended by someone else's implications that they do so much more as a MGT than the STL. I was just trying to say that it does not happen that way in my store. My MGT even tells me I work way harder than he does. My "grudge" lies within the disparity in the pay scale. SM are taking more and more advantage of their STL's. The pay was set as a small bump to the SC pay with a small increase in responsibility. Unfortunately, the quality STL's have been given an overall larger increase in responsibilities because the SM sees their value.
I have just recently returned to retail after many years of doing other things. I was an Assistant Manager with Eckerd drug back in the 90s..until they recoded us to be "key carriers" with a decrease in pay. SOUND FAMILIAR??? Needless to say, I jumped ship immediately. Eckerd eventually bottomed out and was aquired by CVS. I came back to Walgreens with the plan of moving up quickly to MGT status. I have been here a little over a year, 9 months as STL, and was hoping by summer I could promote again. I have my BS degree and thought that could help me promote faster. Looking at all of this going on, I may have the worst timing ever. Then again, maybe I am sitting pretty as others will probably jump out soon.

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