sfl not worth the pay or money

sfl not worth the pay or money

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Since: Dec 12

United States

#1 Dec 12, 2012
I make 11.59 an hour to deal with all irrate customers. Employees. Vendors. Store manager bitching all the time. Time to move on not worth it.
so over this

Kissimmee, FL

#2 Dec 12, 2012
In this position its what you make of it, put your foot down when you start getting abused. How do you think all the people in positions with no authority have made it all these years with no real value to the company? These people learned long ago to play the game , Walgreens doesn't care about you personally,just do $11.59 worth of work and threaten mgmnt with harassment or fake an injury when you feel mistreated. Ask for a sweetheart schedule because if your religion,school,or you don't drive,use your kids,relatives,pets when you want to sleep in or call out.Trust me if you let them push you around you will be doing all the work and getting the shit schedule.It's rare to find a manager that can actually manage his/her crew,good luck.

Since: Jun 12

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#3 Dec 12, 2012
At least at my store, and I'm sure others can attest to the same thing, it does not matter in the least how hard you work, you will GET ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for it. Not even so much as a "good job" or "thank you" or "I appreciate the job your doing".........

Now, with the MGT restructuring, or whatever you wish to call it, it is now IMPOSSIBLE to strive to move up within the company. So, my question is, WHY bother to do anything else but the very basic crap and just wait on customers and get money in the drawer???

Then there is the ever changing hours...most of the time resulting in less hours and then MGT comes up with ridiculous 3 pages or more a day lists of things to do and then wants to get mad because it doesn't get done.

Well, in the end, I guess some of us here just need a place to vent. I know most of us are not in a position to just leave without having something else lined up. If you ask me, it's not about being grateful to have a job, which I know we all are. It's TOTALLY about the TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT a lot of us receive from the company AND from fellow employees.

Since: Apr 12

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#4 Dec 12, 2012
As SFL's, you are the replacements for MGT's that will not and would never take that rate to do that job. Although your job description calls you "non-management", you can and always will be worked like one, because those needs and responsibilities don't just go away and SM's aren't left with a choice. It isn't fair, and no you should not be content with what it pays, but when/if Walgreens ever understands or cares, I doubt...
stlies

United States

#5 Dec 12, 2012
That's alright tho I'm trying my best to look at the big picture but that frame is getting smaller and smaller. I have only one cashier at night. That i have to babysit and me a two page list everynight thats has to be done not including facing the store filling cooler. Moping sweeping. Tags on sat . Half of the time the cashier is doing his list moping sweeping etc and me working my list. If one thing is out of place I hear about it. I'm so over this. I've been applying places as management because that's what we are. Thus just isn't worth the stress. Not to mention I've had to work all three holidays.
mmhae

Cottage Grove, WI

#6 Dec 12, 2012
You have lists? Couple of stores around here no longer have lists, they don't have the same number of people since they have been cutting.
Fired a couple of good people because they were not able to complete the list and then they stopped using them entirely.

Since: Nov 12

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#7 Dec 12, 2012
I, like you, am working as an SFL for 11.50 an hour. I also, like you, feel conflicted between being happy I have a job that is full time and feeling totally undervalued due to the amount of work I have to do and responsibility yet getting paid barely enough to live on (let's face it we get paid around 3 dollars more than cashiers start off making/hour...)

This makes me bitter...but I also have a strong work ethic so I do the job to the best of my ability. I like the people I work with, which helps. But I have been working here for 5 months and have decided I will not stay longer than 1 year. Which sucks for Walgreens because this will be a problem in the SFL position, people will NOT stay at this pay for long and this will hurt productivity as this position requires a lot of training (photo, pharmacy, inventory management, receiving, opening and closing procedures, employee management, etc. etc.) so a lot of time is invested in SFLs and if they leave after a year, it is a huge drain on resources. But nobody in their right mind would be HAPPY with this job at this pay. We can be thankful to have a full time job, but then we can use it as a stepping stone and quickly jump ship to better pastures (and they're out there...)

Since: Nov 12

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#8 Dec 12, 2012
Also Stlies, do not get stressed out. Corporate has cut our hours and people and expect us to get more things done which is impossible. Do the best you can and do not stress out. There comes a time, especially at night, where you just have to get your nightly stuff done. The other stuff on the list can get done at some other point. You cannot get a lot done, especially this time of year, with hours being cut. It is just LOGIC...
stlies

United States

#9 Dec 12, 2012
You're right ! I really thought this would be a good career change but now not so much. Walgreens knows what there doing. There are two other stls in my store and all of us are looking for jobs! Go figure ' I do thank wags for the management experience. Tho that I'm about to use elsewhere ...this position. Has taught me so much but it's Walgreens fought that this position will have a astronomical turnover rate
Teefies2

Candler, NC

#10 Dec 12, 2012
I would be GLAD to work for $11.50 an hour, especially if I had only been with the company 5 months. I am over 50, have TONS of work experience - including 25+ years in retail and 10 years in management in another industry and been at Wags for about 18 months.

I got passed over for SFL, supposedly because my review score wasn't high enough (the only reason it wasn't is that I scored myself 3's and one 2, while my then store manager scored me 3's and 4's - the 2 I rated myself supposedly lowered my overall score so that I wasn't qualified to be promoted). What it REALLY was, as has become clear, is that we got a new store manager who prefers young cute females.

Sorry, I'm not trying to stereotype, but when you give SFL to someone who has only a high school education and can't even speak proper English (she's American, by the way),nor do basic math, the job over someone with years of experience - not only retail, but management - and a college AND graduate degree? It has to be because she is young and cute :-(

Or maybe I'm overthinking this.

Since: Nov 12

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#11 Dec 12, 2012
Teefies2 wrote:
I would be GLAD to work for $11.50 an hour, especially if I had only been with the company 5 months. I am over 50, have TONS of work experience - including 25+ years in retail and 10 years in management in another industry and been at Wags for about 18 months.
Not trying to be rude, but at 50 you shouldn't be happy w/ 11.50 an hour so you are obviously a special circumstance. Recent college grads (me...) shouldn't be happy with 11.50 an hour. 50yr olds should definitely not unless you have had issues through your life. Why? Because 11.50 doesn't provide a life style that you can thrive on (save, invest, security, etc.). It allows you to get by...barely.
Altec Lansing

San Antonio, TX

#12 Dec 13, 2012
Teefies2 wrote:
I would be GLAD to work for $11.50 an hour, especially if I had only been with the company 5 months. I am over 50, have TONS of work experience - including 25+ years in retail and 10 years in management in another industry and been at Wags for about 18 months.
I got passed over for SFL, supposedly because my review score wasn't high enough (the only reason it wasn't is that I scored myself 3's and one 2, while my then store manager scored me 3's and 4's - the 2 I rated myself supposedly lowered my overall score so that I wasn't qualified to be promoted). What it REALLY was, as has become clear, is that we got a new store manager who prefers young cute females.
Sorry, I'm not trying to stereotype, but when you give SFL to someone who has only a high school education and can't even speak proper English (she's American, by the way),nor do basic math, the job over someone with years of experience - not only retail, but management - and a college AND graduate degree? It has to be because she is young and cute :-(
Or maybe I'm overthinking this.
The way you score yourself has nothing to do with your overall score. That is totally dependent on the manager's score of you. Unless you're a department head or an STL you need a 3.7 (I believe) in order to be considered for SFL.
dontstressit

Chapel Hill, NC

#13 Dec 13, 2012
If I bust my ass everyday running around being superman it took 2 months for managers to praise me. I could slack off and not do shit for months, make the same pay and still not get fired. What's the point? WagSwag managers don't recognize hard work. My advice, don't do shit if you're a low level employee.
Teefies2

Candler, NC

#14 Dec 16, 2012
yesthisisfine wrote:
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Not trying to be rude, but at 50 you shouldn't be happy w/ 11.50 an hour so you are obviously a special circumstance. Recent college grads (me...) shouldn't be happy with 11.50 an hour. 50yr olds should definitely not unless you have had issues through your life. Why? Because 11.50 doesn't provide a life style that you can thrive on (save, invest, security, etc.). It allows you to get by...barely.
I don't think you're rude, just misguided or perhaps overly optimistic. You're right, I shouldn't be happy with 11.50 an hour. However, there are a few circumstances.#1 - in case you didn't know while you were in school, the economy has been really bad the last 2 or 3 years.#2 - I live in a small town in rural North Carolina (I didn't always - made more money in other places), starting wage at my store is $7.50, regardless of who you are.#3 - retail is NOT my first choice, but that's pretty much the only jobs around here, there are few offices, and the fabric and furniture industries which were the mainstay of life here for over 100 years have all been outsourced.#4 - it took me two years to get this job, and I'm damn glad to be working again! It beats the hell out of being on welfare.

So, yes, at my age with my experience, I shouldn't have to settle for less than 11.50 an hour. But given all the reasons above, I did. Does that make it right - no. But given making $8.95 an hour (now) as opposed to being out of work.... hell yes I'll take it. You're right, not even $11.50 is enough to thrive on, but $7.50 (at the time) was what I got. I hope you're in an urban area where wages are much higher, I wish I was.

And honestly the only rude thing you said was that "you are obviously a special circumstance". That implied that there was something wrong with me. As you get older and get more life experience under your belt, you'll learn that what we want, what we are worth, and what the market will pay, do not always coincide. That's unfortunately the way things are. The best life skill I ever learned was to "roll with the punches" and do the best I can in whatever situation I find myself.

So thanks for your comments and I wish you the best :-)
caliWAG

San Jose, CA

#15 Dec 17, 2012
SFL is basically a watered down MGT..as if MGT wasn't watered down enough!

Since: Nov 12

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#16 Dec 17, 2012
Teefies2 wrote:
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I don't think you're rude, just misguided or perhaps overly optimistic. You're right, I shouldn't be happy with 11.50 an hour. However, there are a few circumstances.#1 - in case you didn't know while you were in school, the economy has been really bad the last 2 or 3 years.#2 - I live in a small town in rural North Carolina (I didn't always - made more money in other places), starting wage at my store is $7.50, regardless of who you are.#3 - retail is NOT my first choice, but that's pretty much the only jobs around here, there are few offices, and the fabric and furniture industries which were the mainstay of life here for over 100 years have all been outsourced.#4 - it took me two years to get this job, and I'm damn glad to be working again! It beats the hell out of being on welfare.
So, yes, at my age with my experience, I shouldn't have to settle for less than 11.50 an hour. But given all the reasons above, I did. Does that make it right - no. But given making $8.95 an hour (now) as opposed to being out of work.... hell yes I'll take it. You're right, not even $11.50 is enough to thrive on, but $7.50 (at the time) was what I got. I hope you're in an urban area where wages are much higher, I wish I was.
And honestly the only rude thing you said was that "you are obviously a special circumstance". That implied that there was something wrong with me. As you get older and get more life experience under your belt, you'll learn that what we want, what we are worth, and what the market will pay, do not always coincide. That's unfortunately the way things are. The best life skill I ever learned was to "roll with the punches" and do the best I can in whatever situation I find myself.
So thanks for your comments and I wish you the best :-)
Yes you must roll with the punches but it doesn't mean you have to feel stuck. I, like you, had to roll with the punches. I make 11.50 and have a college degree. So technically you and I are making similar wages! But I don't accept this as my eternity. If it is, fine...I made some cool friends working at WAGs which makes the job worth it in the end even if the job is monotonous and full of b.s. most of the time :)
Anonymous

Wylie, TX

#17 Dec 22, 2012
My MGR was saying how the SFL position was not going well because of the pay and the amt of responsibility that is expected. She said she had heard of some store that a SFL was working solo because of call offs one night. The SFL called the MGR and EXA to get some help, but was told to just "handle it for the night". well supposedly the SFL took his/her keys back to the pharmacy, gave them to the pharmacist on duty and walked out of the store. Anyone hear about this or just a rumor that started as one thing and ended up as something else.

Since: Nov 12

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#18 Dec 23, 2012
Wag Hobbit wrote:
My MGR was saying how the SFL position was not going well because of the pay and the amt of responsibility that is expected. She said she had heard of some store that a SFL was working solo because of call offs one night. The SFL called the MGR and EXA to get some help, but was told to just "handle it for the night". well supposedly the SFL took his/her keys back to the pharmacy, gave them to the pharmacist on duty and walked out of the store. Anyone hear about this or just a rumor that started as one thing and ended up as something else.
It is laughable that Walgreens thinks they will be able to find good SFLs who care about the job at 11.50 an hour and very little possibility for promotion (with all the old ass. mgrs still there). How many store managers today would take this job? I don't know any...

They expect MORE work to be done by SFLs than old assistant managers (less people, less hours)...not going to happen. You will have high turn over with this position and it is not as easy to train an SFL as it is to train a cashier. It takes 2 days tops to train a cashier, it takes months to properly train an SFL since they are supposed to know inventory management, closing/opening, pharmacy, photo, scanning in vendors, etc. But that isn't my problem :)
Momx4

South Jordan, UT

#19 Jan 7, 2013
I make 11.49 an hour after being with the company for 11.5 years and starting out at min wage in 2001. Not sure if that's a bad thing or a not so bad thing
Content For Now

Phoenix, AZ

#20 Jan 7, 2013
As the highest paid sfl in my district I'm pretty happy where I'm at. Been with Walg and the same store for 5 years, started when i was 18 so I have a pretty great relation with my store manager who's also a cl. I'm seem as another member of management amongst coworkers and customers. I have more experience in all aspects of the store than the others; the to go guy for other SMs.

At times I coordinate work amongst other managers when the sm is away and im usually the lead in setting the promo aisle every season. I attend all our community's events and even coordinated one myself.

Sure the pay sucks and I wish I was making more but I'm in it more for the experience and notability. But I will be first in line on the 18th when we are able to apply for the asm-t position.

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