Febuary layoffs???
Pissed off mgr

Detroit, MI

#61 Jan 8, 2012
I just don't see how wags could legally do this? Haven't they thought about a huge lawsuit that would most definitely take place if this were to happen? I just don't see how they can make you reapply for a job you already have.
tuffa

Lakewood, WI

#62 Jan 8, 2012
they claim to eliminate the old job and create a new one by changing the title and possibly some of the duties. They can and have done this before. It's all about the money, not the employees. When you get burned, start shopping elsewhere.
gnn

Since: Aug 11

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#63 Jan 8, 2012
Pissed off mgr wrote:
I just don't see how wags could legally do this? Haven't they thought about a huge lawsuit that would most definitely take place if this were to happen? I just don't see how they can make you reapply for a job you already have.
They did it with the district trainers rember?
Pissed off mgr

Detroit, MI

#64 Jan 8, 2012
And there have not been any lawsuits when it's happened in the past? I remember them doing away with those positions company wide but I thought they had to offer them a similar position and pay. Is that not right?
Pissed off mgr

Detroit, MI

#65 Jan 8, 2012
Furthermore if over half the mgts quit in a matter of a few days with the current hiring freeze that's taken place how will the stores be operated immediately after? Guess sm and exams will be working 24-7? They will not have had enough time to train potential stls I don't think. Any ideas on how this transition would not disrupt day to day business?
Get over it

Athens, AL

#66 Jan 8, 2012
Everything is speculation at this point, why don't you calm down and see where this goes
Pissed off mgr wrote:
Furthermore if over half the mgts quit in a matter of a few days with the current hiring freeze that's taken place how will the stores be operated immediately after? Guess sm and exams will be working 24-7? They will not have had enough time to train potential stls I don't think. Any ideas on how this transition would not disrupt day to day business?
gnn

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#67 Jan 8, 2012
Pissed off mgr wrote:
And there have not been any lawsuits when it's happened in the past? I remember them doing away with those positions company wide but I thought they had to offer them a similar position and pay. Is that not right?
They applyed for the pharmacy position in the district I forgot what they are called.But most did not get it because they did not have pharmacy certifcation.
shermy

River Grove, IL

#68 Jan 8, 2012
gnn wrote:
<quoted text>They applyed for the pharmacy position in the district I forgot what they are called.But most did not get it because they did not have pharmacy certifcation.
Operations trainer (coordinator). The position was technically different from that of district trainer since it involved both the pharmacy and the front end. That's how Walgreens could get away with them requiring to be "re-interviewed".

Since: Aug 11

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#69 Jan 8, 2012
Pissed off mgr wrote:
I just don't see how wags could legally do this? Haven't they thought about a huge lawsuit that would most definitely take place if this were to happen? I just don't see how they can make you reapply for a job you already have.
A couple of years ago at district level discretion individual pharmacy technicians were very suddenly either laid off or in some cases given the opportunity to take a forced transfer to another store within the district or else voluntarily resign effective immediately. When this occurred the technicians were given no notice other than a less than 24 hour reassignment to the report to the district office or other non-store location the next day. The store managers concerned with losing technicians were not even aware that this was to occur, other than finding out the same day as the technician that the technician would be required elsewhere for one day. Following the lay off/reassignment, the technician was not allowed to return to their home store for the remainder of the week, not even as a customer or to pick up a prescription. The afternoon following the lay off/reassignment the store managers were only then communicated that they were losing technicians, most full time, effective immediately.

In a situation prior to that, on a Monday afternoon/evening, minutes before 5pm "Store Ops" sent out an email alerting the stores that effective starting that week, MGTs were not to work more than 40 hours in a work week, not going into overtime. In this instance some MGTs had already worked Saturday, Sunday, and Monday perhaps accruing 30+ hours with two more work days scheduled before the end of the pay period. The MGTs and their store managers were now left to their own devices to figure out how to absolve the potential of finishing out the week in terms of coverage without going into overtime at the risk of disciplinary action.

In the years and months since these situations the company has continued to cut back on hours quarter after quarter, sometimes requiring areas to lay off pharmacy technicians and eliminating pharmacist shifts regardless of consistently increasing prescription counts and pharmacy sales numbers.

If the company is willing to do follow through with these actions requiring drop of the hat action from all store locations while severely crippling their staffing, there is little reason to believe further changes are not possible with little to no notice.
Texas Outlaw

Frisco, TX

#70 Jan 8, 2012
In regards to SalV... Not in pharmacy..but I do not see the purpose in letting more pharmacy people go. I mean the pharmacy is the main driving force behind WAG..or it use to be. I do know what you stated is correct!
The so called strategy behind all of this hiring - firing - cutting hours may save money but where does that leave the customer? Am searching for the logic behind all of this.
gnn

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#71 Jan 9, 2012
Texas Outlaw wrote:
In regards to SalV... Not in pharmacy..but I do not see the purpose in letting more pharmacy people go. I mean the pharmacy is the main driving force behind WAG..or it use to be. I do know what you stated is correct!
The so called strategy behind all of this hiring - firing - cutting hours may save money but where does that leave the customer? Am searching for the logic behind all of this.
I have worked in a store where the the store makes the money not the pharmacy and it was very busy back there but we served a lot of military so it was not as profitable as the store.So there must be more stores like that out there.

Since: Dec 11

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#72 Jan 9, 2012
Any rumors about what this'll mean for just plain service clerks?
I haven't heard anything on my end.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#73 Jan 9, 2012
Texas Outlaw wrote:
In regards to SalV... Not in pharmacy..but I do not see the purpose in letting more pharmacy people go. I mean the pharmacy is the main driving force behind WAG..or it use to be. I do know what you stated is correct!
The so called strategy behind all of this hiring - firing - cutting hours may save money but where does that leave the customer? Am searching for the logic behind all of this.
I've worked in stores where the the pharmacy is open 9-9 with one pharmacist all day and zero technicians filling over 100 scripts each day. Other stores i've seen the pharmacist work 8-4, another 4-10, and in 24 hour stores the overnight pharmacist fills in the 10-8 shift, so as you can tell the pharmacist hours cannot go down any more while keeping the pharmacy open. For the past couple of years my experience has shown that management spends three to eight, sometimes even 12 collective hours in the pharmacy each day just to help it keep up, only leaving to handle returns, exchanges, money calls, etc. In these cases the front end needs to be incredibly self reliant to maintain itself.

My GUESS is that stores will be scaled back in pharmacy hours. even 9-7 could save up to 14 pharmacist hours a week. Of course everyone in a store knows how busy the pharmacy is during the first and last hour of business, so that would become another sacrifice made to protect earnings. On the other hand, we've seen 24 hour stores scaled back into non 24 format in the past, so it's not an impossibility.

Since: Aug 11

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#74 Jan 9, 2012
Smallkitten wrote:
Any rumors about what this'll mean for just plain service clerks?
I haven't heard anything on my end.
Different stores have been pushing out different concepts for a few years now. Some stores open with the photo lab in the front where the cashier is responsible to answer photo questions, trouble shoot the kiosks etc., in these stores film processing is not handled in store (unless there are exceptions I have not been aware of). Other stores open or remodel with the cosmetics counter absent. In both of these cases "beauty advisor" or "photo technician" job classes do not exist, however somewhat similar positions do exist to fill in as a limited support. They may exist to stock cosmetic items, work truck, rotate cooler and freezer, but they are not there to add to selling or earn specialized PMs as the other positions would have.

The benefit to this model is reduced hours used, one person stocks food and cooler for 8 hours versus two people work photo for 14 hours, but more so the required versatility of sales staff. With less specialized services offered less training needs to take place. There is no more "this person does not know photo" or "that person was never trained in cosmetics", as there is no longer a department classification that segregates what service clerks need to know to do their primary role.

While it is easy from an 'above store level' view to see the benefits of a smaller more versatile employment staff, at store level and following history it moves Walgreens from the staffing concepts of the previous decades where specialized service was key to growing your customer base and loyalty into the larger sum of big box retailers with low staff and no training.

I'm aware this does not answer your question for what to expect for your future, but it is an insight as to what is going on in different parts of the company elsewhere. This may help get an idea of what may need to be expected down the line.

Of course new concepts are being rolled out all the time in test markets and as you can tell not everything works everywhere. Some Chicago area stores put in self-check out a couple years ago, yet there is no rush to implement this coast to coast, so it is difficult to see what will and what will not work out.
Exa

Buffalo, NY

#75 Jan 9, 2012
@salv .. Very well put! There are laws in place to protect workers but I'm sure Walgreens does its due diligence to avoid or circumvent these laws, so we really are in a jam ( potentially )
Texas Outlaw

Frisco, TX

#76 Jan 9, 2012
Considering every store is different, am wondering if this will affect all stores or certain ones. For instance Saturdates, no BA's then who will do them? I know in some areas thy are now trying to get BAs to dress up more.Plus already have 2012 planned and are working on 2013.What about the occasional photo demos selling new products ?
gnn

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#77 Jan 9, 2012
I did notice that in our store our EXA has to make a schedule all the way to the end of Feb. whats going on with that??? That is really hard to do so far in advance. Does other store have to do that?
A manager

United States

#78 Jan 9, 2012
Here's the deal. The company will wait until Feb to assess the lost revenue from ESI. No reduction until they have a clear pic of the actual loss of scripts. That's why we are in a holding pattern. Then the reorganization will happen. Something is coming.
shermy

Houston, TX

#79 Jan 9, 2012
"Over the next two to three years, our field operations will change the way our team members serve our customers, and the way our leaders support their teams in support of that strategy. Market and district leaders will hear more about plans to improve operational structure in late January/early February. All store managers will learn specific details of any changes in early March."

In other words, there will be big changes coming but it will be done on a 2-3 year timeline and not all of a sudden. "Attrition" will probably be a key word.
EXA

Portland, OR

#80 Jan 9, 2012
Service clerks will be fine, you will still be treated like shit by Walgreens trashy lazy management,and your DM will come in the store and not speak like he is the king of something, but you will go unscathed in all of this.. What could they do to you, make you work below minimum wage ?

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