Math Test Preparation for ASM-T's

Math Test Preparation for ASM-T's

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Grease

Elmhurst, IL

#1 Dec 19, 2012
For those who don't know and are interested, the math sample test is now available online. Go to StoreNet -> Learn -> Field Transformation Guide -> L.E.A.P.(left hand side)-> ASM-T (left hand side). In the 2nd or 3rd paragraph, there will be a hypertext "preparation" that you can click on and will direct you to download the sample math test in English or Spanish. I printed it but I left it at work :(. I saw that a great deal of it is about gross profit and percentages on how much an ideal store makes. Pretty exciting...

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#2 Dec 19, 2012
Sounds alot like the ADSM math test. I'll have to check it out next time I work
Mark

Auburn, WA

#3 Dec 20, 2012
It is almost identical to the ADSM math prep. Even has the same clip art calculator.

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#4 Dec 20, 2012
Funny how all of a sudden they are worried about whether or not the people in these positions currently understand math. You would think this would have been part of it way before they got promoted to begin with.

Since: Apr 12

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#5 Dec 20, 2012
What I don't understand, is why the score of this test is said to be 40% of the overall ranking for ASM-T applicants. A sufficient score on this should be a PREREQUISITE to even be considered, and THEN you should be ranked ONLY by performance scores and interview. I guess it will come down to that for the most part anyway, assuming most worthy applicants are likely to all score in a close range on the math test, but it's still a little off to me that a wrong answer or 2 on a math test could tip the scale in your overall ranking.... especially when it's really coming down to the wire, handing out so few positions to so many remaining MGT's.
indenturedWAG

Orlando, FL

#6 Dec 20, 2012
JMGT wrote:
What I don't understand, is why the score of this test is said to be 40% of the overall ranking for ASM-T applicants. A sufficient score on this should be a PREREQUISITE to even be considered, and THEN you should be ranked ONLY by performance scores and interview. I guess it will come down to that for the most part anyway, assuming most worthy applicants are likely to all score in a close range on the math test, but it's still a little off to me that a wrong answer or 2 on a math test could tip the scale in your overall ranking.... especially when it's really coming down to the wire, handing out so few positions to so many remaining MGT's.
They are probably doing it this way because they know that their performance review system is flawed, and has always been very subjective. I've known great, smart, and more than capable employees that have gotten crappy reviews because they don't get along well with the mgr. on the other hand I've known incompetent, useless employees get great review because they get along great with the MGR.

Maybe they're hoping to balance that out a bit.

We all know of EXA's that have taken the PTCB exam multiple times and can't pass it.

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#7 Dec 20, 2012
indenturedWAG wrote:
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They are probably doing it this way because they know that their performance review system is flawed, and has always been very subjective. I've known great, smart, and more than capable employees that have gotten crappy reviews because they don't get along well with the mgr. on the other hand I've known incompetent, useless employees get great review because they get along great with the MGR.
Well it's not a normal performance review as you're used to. It's going to be an "internal reference review" which will involve the Store Manager and CL. CL's and DM's have already been discussing who they want to fill these positions, so from what I gather, CL opinion will influence, if not outright decide these scores more so than store manager, assuming they have an opinion one way or the other about the MGT in question, that is. I'm absolutely fine with that, as I used to work directly for my CL, was promoted by him, and am on better terms with him than my SM by far. I'm still not looking forward to this process in general, though. So much crap to go through to keep a damn lateral position. It's crazy how we're treating keeping our positions under a different title as if it were some prestigious promotion.

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#8 Dec 20, 2012
Haha sounds like most mgt cannot do math what a surprise flippin morons holding positions they never should have had. Asskissers get the jobs even though they have no people skills or intelligence to hold it.

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#9 Dec 20, 2012
2 dope wrote:
Haha sounds like most mgt cannot do math what a surprise flippin morons holding positions they never should have had. Asskissers get the jobs even though they have no people skills or intelligence to hold it.
My thoughts exactly! Woooooooo! However as i stated before even though some dumbarse judged me like an idiot.....this math test should have been a prerequisite to begin with...way too many nitwits, especially the ones that got demoted from that BS photo DM position....what a bunch of know nothings.....ruined the MGT position for everyone else.....another corporate F-UP.
i cared once

Bronx, NY

#10 Dec 21, 2012
You call this a math test

I took the same for adsm and when i first saw the practice test i thoughg it was a joke. This is downright stupid to require so little from an exa back then and asmt now. Any person who wants to be a manager should know so much more.

This is why walgreens is having issues at store level. To many great cashiers promoted to mgt and to many hard work but not so bright mgts made it to exa and sm in the past 5-10 years. These people are great workers and great people but never had or have the brains to run a business and understand the bigger picture of profitability.

Good luck when they take these people out of thier comfort zone
And make them planners and action makers

Since: Jul 12

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#11 Dec 21, 2012
They should have put all of this into MGT Training/PPLs from day one instead of making it ADSM/ASM-T stuff.

Most MGTs don't walk around performing mathmatical equations day to day because they were either never taught how or given the equations to figure it out.

I know that I'm personally rusty on the math side since I rarely do more than basic rudementary math.
thespaz

Kelseyville, CA

#12 Dec 21, 2012
i know live in a land of math. i have to every semester figure QTC/QTB/GP and many more calculations. Math is like a foreign language sometimes. If you stop using it you get rusty. I also do a ton of calculations using a modified form of PERT. so my advice for anyone job hunting keep your math skill sharp.
tnmgt

United States

#13 Dec 25, 2012
Got a 100% on the adsm test fro exa but still no promotion. It's all crap

Since: Aug 07

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#14 Dec 25, 2012
tnmgt wrote:
Got a 100% on the adsm test fro exa but still no promotion. It's all crap
It's all about who you know and who's butt you kiss.

I know of EXAs who can barely speak English but is highly regarded because they are related to another Store Manager.

It's all BS, you just gotta play the game.

Since: Apr 12

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#15 Jan 3, 2013
Does anyone know how and where we'll be taking this test? If I'm not mistaken, the EXA version was always done at the district office... but upon reviewing the ASMT info, it says "Those who qualify based on their applications will be asked to take an ONLINE math test". So, I'm wondering if that means in-store via storenet, or if it's still at the D.O. on a computer there? I guess it doesn't matter too much, just curious.

Since: Jul 12

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#16 Jan 5, 2013
JMGT wrote:
Does anyone know how and where we'll be taking this test? If I'm not mistaken, the EXA version was always done at the district office... but upon reviewing the ASMT info, it says "Those who qualify based on their applications will be asked to take an ONLINE math test". So, I'm wondering if that means in-store via storenet, or if it's still at the D.O. on a computer there? I guess it doesn't matter too much, just curious.
ADSM math test was 'administered' at a CL store in my area last year, with the CL sitting in the office making sure you didn't cheat.
wagger

Johnson City, TN

#17 Jan 6, 2013
Can we use a calculator, formula sheet, or just blank paper and pencil?
Wagslave

United States

#18 Jan 22, 2013
Does anyone remember how many questions adsm test had? Was it multiple choice? Were you allowed to use a calculator?
Searching

United States

#19 Jan 22, 2013
It's an online assessment test.

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#20 Jan 22, 2013
You could use a calculator and pen and paper if I remember right. The test was pretty lengthy given that *most* of it is simple math.

Anyone heard of when you take the math part yet? I only found the base application and the practice math so far (which is buried deep in the depths of storenet). The practice math is the same practice math they had for ADSM, by the way.

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