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#147 Jun 16, 2012
Why in the holy hell would store manager salary go UP and get less of a bonus? That would make some store managers not work as hard.

Makes no sense.

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#148 Jun 16, 2012
wagslavefornow wrote:
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The SMs, MGTs, and EXAs that don't become CL or ASM/ASM-T in the new structure will have to become SFLs or lower.
Wow-not quite-guess again.EXA's become ASM without any process,just a job code change.

AS to who said ,Drink the Kool aid,not me.I never said what I believe,just what I have been told.I also know there will be a cap on what you can make,I know this is true for SM and DM and I guess ASM as well.Now that I said that,not one manager in my district is at that cap yet and we have some long term managers.

You guys can speculate as much as you want or post things as fact but like I have said before none of us have a clue what the future will be.This is my guess but have no extra info at all-I really do think SM's will be gone eventually and they will have CL's running multiple stores.I think they will hire a few extra CL's so they dont have more then 4 stores each,(Besides their own).

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#149 Jun 16, 2012
xvef wrote:
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Wow-not quite-guess again.EXA's become ASM without any process,just a job code change.
AS to who said ,Drink the Kool aid,not me.I never said what I believe,just what I have been told.I also know there will be a cap on what you can make,I know this is true for SM and DM and I guess ASM as well.Now that I said that,not one manager in my district is at that cap yet and we have some long term managers.
You guys can speculate as much as you want or post things as fact but like I have said before none of us have a clue what the future will be.This is my guess but have no extra info at all-I really do think SM's will be gone eventually and they will have CL's running multiple stores.I think they will hire a few extra CL's so they dont have more then 4 stores each,(Besides their own).
My mistake. Just going by what I read on this forum. I am not in management so I am not told anything. I don't quite understand why EXAs get ASM for sure and SMs and MGTs don't but there is a lot I don't understand. I will look at the Field Transformation guide on Storenet and see what else I am missing.

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#150 Jun 16, 2012
xvef wrote:
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This is my guess but have no extra info at all-I really do think SM's will be gone eventually and they will have CL's running multiple stores.I think they will hire a few extra CL's so they dont have more then 4 stores each,(Besides their own).
If SMs are gone and CLs running multiple stores then DMs will go away too? It would seem CLs could handle the multiple stores.
ynot

Jonesborough, TN

#151 Jun 16, 2012
wagslavefornow wrote:
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The difference is that that they are doing away with the SM, MGT, and EXA positions. So you have the SM, MGT, and EXA all competing to fill the CL position, which is over 3-5 stores, or the ASM position, which is one per store. I would guess that one of the things they are going to be watching is how well the SMs are able to transition current employees or train new ones to be SFLs. If Walgreens is really trying to cut costs through staffing changes, I would guess that the actual execution of that plan is going to fall on the SMs. That is just my opinion.
Let me ask another way- You said "If the SMs are really responsible for training the SFLs, which someone else said in a comment, and you have to hire the SFLs from outside of Walgreens, you need some incentive for the SMs to hire and train the SFLs. It is a short-term incentive but it is still an incentive."
MY question is why do you think there needs to be an incentive for SM to hire and train SFL? How is that any different than hiring and training an STL? STL's already have to call SM at home for every little thing just like an SFL would. I don't see enough of a difference between the two positions that would justify SM needing an incentive to basically do what they are already doing with STL's. SFL is pretty much nothing more than STL with a couple of more closing shifts thrown in.

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#152 Jun 17, 2012
comiskeybum wrote:
Why in the holy hell would store manager salary go UP and get less of a bonus? That would make some store managers not work as hard.
Makes no sense.
My guess is the exact same reason they did it a few years ago.The bonus changed from 5% of increase in profit and .5% of increase in sales to 4% and .4%.That may not sound like much but to some that was 5-7k a year they took in bonus hit.They gave every store manager an extra $250 a month raise to help offset this.

I am not sure if most managers will get a raise,they are raising the starting rate for store managers.I am just not sure how they will roll downhill for those that have been one for awhile

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#153 Jun 17, 2012
Part 2-No I dont know the new bonus formula but do know it will based a lot off the improve scorecard.I am sure it will be pushed that if you hit your goals,your bonus will be about the same.

The problem is the goals are very hard-Here is an example.My store was about 35% ESI but my pharmacy sales goal is to be up 1% still.That was after they adjusted the goal down after Jan 1.As you can guess,we are not coming close to that.

Since: Feb 12

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#154 Jun 17, 2012
Good2 wrote:
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If SMs are gone and CLs running multiple stores then DMs will go away too? It would seem CLs could handle the multiple stores.
I have no clue but CL seems the best job security to me right now.

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#155 Jun 17, 2012
ynot wrote:
<quoted text>Let me ask another way- You said "If the SMs are really responsible for training the SFLs, which someone else said in a comment, and you have to hire the SFLs from outside of Walgreens, you need some incentive for the SMs to hire and train the SFLs. It is a short-term incentive but it is still an incentive."
MY question is why do you think there needs to be an incentive for SM to hire and train SFL? How is that any different than hiring and training an STL? STL's already have to call SM at home for every little thing just like an SFL would. I don't see enough of a difference between the two positions that would justify SM needing an incentive to basically do what they are already doing with STL's. SFL is pretty much nothing more than STL with a couple of more closing shifts thrown in.
I agree that STL and SFL are not that different in responsibilities, at least from what I have read on this forum.

It seems to me that the SFL is the new position that is meant to replace the higher paid management, overnight MGTs for a start, and eventually replace the higher paid front store staff. By making the SM responsible for training the SFLs, the SM is responsible for choosing those people, and training them well enough to replace anyone any other worker in the front store.
If SFLs can get moved around, the new SFLs might go to other stores.

Right now, it just my impression that management doesn't give a hoot; they are just trying to do the bare minimum and ride this out until the gravy train ends. Walgreens can pay people to come to work but they can't pay people to care. I think if Walgreens really wants staff in certain stores to leave faster, Walgreens could make it all a living hell - start transferring people around to other stores, mess with the schedule, etc.

One of my old bosses was really good at getting people to leave the company. They would transfer people into his group just so they would quit within 3 months.

This is just my opinion. We can agree to disagree on this topic.
MGTonsauce

Clearlake, CA

#156 Jun 17, 2012
SFLs right now can be moved around, but that is suppose to change after 3rds phase is over. Now if you want a career with wag if you are asked to move you more than likely will. So the store asset is bs.
moomoo

Chesterfield, MO

#157 Jun 17, 2012
I was told that SFL's would belong to their store and NOT be moved around.

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#158 Jun 18, 2012
I wouldn't believe it unless it is in writing. It could be up to the DM.

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#159 Jun 18, 2012
SFLs can currently be transferred but they will eventually only be moved voluntarily.

Is this really such a big deal for people?
hopingfor the best

Milwaukee, WI

#160 Jun 18, 2012
MGTruth wrote:
SFLs can currently be transferred but they will eventually only be moved voluntarily.
Is this really such a big deal for people?
It is if you get transferred to a store 40 minutes from where you live, when currently your at a store in walking distance.
Geraldo

United States

#161 Jun 18, 2012
MGTruth wrote:
SFLs can currently be transferred but they will eventually only be moved voluntarily.
Is this really such a big deal for people?
It can be a big deal if you go from a well run store to one that's in total chaos.
vince polk

Cedar Hill, TX

#162 Jun 18, 2012
eyeontheprize wrote:
<quoted text>Before on your post above the guy you commented about, you spelled but has bud, maybe you need a lesson in grammar, or at least take some anger management classes, because your have some issues that can probably be dealt with on another forum, but not here!
I wonder why we mention each other position as cuts or speculation towards our future, but never mention the CEOs salary and bonus. Why pay someone millions of dollars to make good or bad decisions.
soontobegone

Kennebunk, ME

#163 Jun 18, 2012
MGTruth wrote:
SFLs can currently be transferred but they will eventually only be moved voluntarily.
Is this really such a big deal for people?
It is with the price of gas. If you take the paycut and go to SFL AND get transferred 20 miles away, that could cost you another 7 or 8 bucks a day, minimum. Do that times 5 days a week and it really adds up.

I believe this will be part of the strategy to get rid of those MGT's that stick and take the SFL position that the CL and DM want gone.
moomoo

Grover, MO

#164 Jun 18, 2012
MGTruth wrote:
SFLs can currently be transferred but they will eventually only be moved voluntarily.
Is this really such a big deal for people?
It sure is for me. For years I drove 1 hr each way to work. Now I'm 1/2 mile and like it this way SO much better. For the pay I get, it is NOT worth adding gas and car maintenance to my expenses.
Anon_EXA

Auburn, WA

#165 Jun 18, 2012
So much whining. I worked at a store 35 miles from my house for eight months. Didn't complain and got a promotion.
ynot

Jonesborough, TN

#166 Jun 19, 2012
Anon_EXA wrote:
So much whining. I worked at a store 35 miles from my house for eight months. Didn't complain and got a promotion.
For the difference in pay between mgt and sfl I think a little whining is to be expected. when you only make $11 an hour you pay a whole lot more attention to the little things like how much you spend on gas each week. Try to see things from the other guys POV and have a little compassion.

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